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Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4

Grand Fromage posted:

Godawful atonal screeching is the core of traditional Chinese music.

Instrumental is good though, just please don't "sing". I'll listen to a nice guzheng player all day.

I also have a soft spot for the sheng because it's such an absurd looking instrument.

I told my wife that real Asian Chinese music, not this newfangled j-pop, K-pop or whatever sounds like cats loving. Cue Chinese Opera on 7.1 full blast and my wife begging me to shut it off.

My two year old loves it unfortunately.

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P-Mack
Nov 10, 2007

Chinese opera is cool as hell except for the singing.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
Honestly I kinda like the male vocals in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcuZagUJFvY

But by god is the woman's screeching awful

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Obviously what sort of singing and music you like is entirely relative to the culture you were brought up in, but holy poo poo traditional chinese female vocals are one of my least favourite things to listen to. What's worse is that whole "cat yowling inside an unbalanced washing machine" vocal style is what a lot of chinese people go to when they think "classy" singing so often if there' a group of chinese ladies doing karaoke they'll bring out that warbly high pitch screeching for every song.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Apologies if posted before:
https://hk.news.appledaily.com/international/daily/article/20180430/20377316
Probably don't want to watch it at work, although it's a perfectly acceptable "news" site here

HerStuddMuffin
Aug 10, 2014

YOSPOS
Where are the (grand)parents in all this? There’s nobody to tell the kid that he’s being an annoying little poo poo and to stop which, from what’s usually posted In this thread, seems to be par for the course, but there’s also nobody rushing when the dude loses it and goes WWF on the child.

Khorne
May 1, 2002

simplefish posted:

Is she absolutely certain that it was a duck? I don't know of any ducks with combs

Knob-billed duck?
You're all approaching this wrong. Start from the question that eliminates the most options: What duck/rooster/turkey/game bird breed is as intelligent as she claimed?

This shortens the list, and from there we can look for physical traits.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Khorne posted:

You're all approaching this wrong. Start from the question that eliminates the most options: What duck/rooster/turkey/game bird breed is as intelligent as she claimed?

This shortens the list, and from there we can look for physical traits.

Someone duct taped a bunch of crows together.

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002

by VideoGames
Hell Gem

Baronjutter posted:

Obviously what sort of singing and music you like is entirely relative to the culture you were brought up in, but holy poo poo traditional chinese female vocals are one of my least favourite things to listen to. What's worse is that whole "cat yowling inside an unbalanced washing machine" vocal style is what a lot of chinese people go to when they think "classy" singing so often if there' a group of chinese ladies doing karaoke they'll bring out that warbly high pitch screeching for every song.

Chinese song best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78FgFp1Gi9I
posting again

Bum the Sad fucked around with this message at 00:01 on May 1, 2018

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

Baronjutter posted:

Obviously what sort of singing and music you like is entirely relative to the culture you were brought up in, but holy poo poo traditional chinese female vocals are one of my least favourite things to listen to. What's worse is that whole "cat yowling inside an unbalanced washing machine" vocal style is what a lot of chinese people go to when they think "classy" singing so often if there' a group of chinese ladies doing karaoke they'll bring out that warbly high pitch screeching for every song.

Part of it may be due to the fact that women were banned from performing in classical Chinese operas for many years, so you had men-only performance troupes for a while (someone mentioned Farewell My Concubine which features this fact). Also, they had to sing without any amplification and be heard in a setting where the audience was usually noisy or talking, which ends up with performers having to use a pretty shrill voice. So you have a man trying to imitate a woman by use of yell-singing, which combined with a couple centuries of cultural amnesia results in everyone thinking this is how a woman should sing.

Another interesting tidbit is that some classical Chinese operas troupes back in the day would let woman perform but only as male characters. In some instances, you had entirely gender-swapped operas with male actors portraying female characters and vice versa. In modern times the gender of the role and actor are the same in most cases, but the singing styles and techniques remain. So you now have men singing as if they were women imitating men and women singing as if they were men imitating women.

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

CIGNX posted:


Another interesting tidbit is that some classical Chinese operas troupes back in the day would let woman perform but only as male characters. In some instances, you had entirely gender-swapped operas with male actors portraying female characters and vice versa. In modern times the gender of the role and actor are the same in most cases, but the singing styles and techniques remain. So you now have men singing as if they were women imitating men and women singing as if they were men imitating women.

See like i said it owns

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose

CIGNX posted:

Part of it may be due to the fact that women were banned from performing in classical Chinese operas for many years, so you had men-only performance troupes for a while (someone mentioned Farewell My Concubine which features this fact). Also, they had to sing without any amplification and be heard in a setting where the audience was usually noisy or talking, which ends up with performers having to use a pretty shrill voice. So you have a man trying to imitate a woman by use of yell-singing, which combined with a couple centuries of cultural amnesia results in everyone thinking this is how a woman should sing.

Another interesting tidbit is that some classical Chinese operas troupes back in the day would let woman perform but only as male characters. In some instances, you had entirely gender-swapped operas with male actors portraying female characters and vice versa. In modern times the gender of the role and actor are the same in most cases, but the singing styles and techniques remain. So you now have men singing as if they were women imitating men and women singing as if they were men imitating women.

Yeah, these people are definitely going to rule the world by 2020

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Mimesweeper posted:

Yeah, these people are definitely going to rule the world by 2020

the coming Chinese century is only a year and a half away, get ready to praise your Han overlords, 雹雹中国人民

2020 is coming mighty fast, buckle up everyone

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Are India and China locked into a cold war over who can have the most shrill and high pitched female singing style?

Speaking of ridiculous high pitched signing I recently saw an amazing performance of Rinaldo and I wasn't ready for the fact that this production decided to make both male lead roles sopranos. In the 1700's it was written for a castrato as the brave war hero, and the dashing and powerful prince and war leader was to be played by a "Travesti" (a lady playing a man's role) while singing as deeply as she could. In later revisions they made the prince a tenor and Rinaldo himself a countertennor but this production decided nope, full on sopranos for both. My wife had to stop her self several times from fits of giggles as these two men sung about war and heroism in ridiculous high pitched voices. I mean we can laugh at chinese singing but europe has some pretty hosed up traditions as well. The whole history of castrato and such is so weird. China was big on eunuchs but did they ever make em sing? They usually scooped out those gonads in adulthood so it probably didn't create that highly desirable "grown men who sing like little boys" sound we're all after.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
India will be a high pitched singing superpower by 2020.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

India will be a high pitched singing superpower by 2020.

China has already beaten India

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUMyZ3EJyfI&t=17s

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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have you adjusted for screeching power parity though

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse

Lol, you fucker. Now I have the song stuck in my head.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


eat the eggs

the virgin boy piss eggs

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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ere we go ere we go

https://twitter.com/jere_bare/status/989981023076208640?s=19

Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/daumkeziah/status/988115815068139520

every one of these kids looks like they were genetically engineered to be racist

EasternBronze
Jul 19, 2011

I registered for the Selective Service! I'm also racist as fuck!
:downsbravo:
Don't forget to ignore me!
It's funny because all across east Asia they have TV programs that are nothing but "wow gaijin love our ancient noodles" or whatever other cultural trivia has become mildly popular overseas.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Eox posted:

https://twitter.com/daumkeziah/status/988115815068139520

every one of these kids looks like they were genetically engineered to be racist

They’re called “Americans” and it’s pretty common actually

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


EasternBronze posted:

It's funny because all across east Asia they have TV programs that are nothing but "wow gaijin love our ancient noodles" or whatever other cultural trivia has become mildly popular overseas.

yeah people actually in Asia are stoked when parts of their culture become popular

Also qipaos are Manchu dress, not Chinese, so how dare ethnic Chinese like Jeremy Lam appropriate steppe culture

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Mate got himself a Xiaomi phone

I mean, I suspected he loved backdoor action, but even so.

underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
That dress is really pretty.

lol those dudes are gunna regret vape nayshing in their prom pics

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
There is only one culture, human culture.

Kharnifex
Sep 11, 2001

The Banter is better in AusGBS
Oh geez the comments are pretty amazing, is that screenshot of Jeremy Lam complaining about naggers real?

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
Culture appropriation is the dumbest thing ever to be concerned about. Can we go back to globalization as an aspiration, please?

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
Cultural appropriation is a real thing to an extent and does exist and can be an actual issues; someone in TFR once brought up the fact that Native American arts are specifically protected in order to preserve their authenticity and make sure the art stays authentic and is available as a source of income to people who may need said income, to prevent them being driven out of business by impostors trying to capitalize on the cachet of Native American culture. I think that's a good example of actual cultural appropriation that is potentially materially damaging to the original cultures.

However, someone just wearing clothing or hairstyles affiliated with a certain culture being put forth as serious cultural appropriation is seriously nebulous insofar as what the actual terms should be in a multicultural world and who should be the arbiter of "correctness". Who has a right then to wear it? Would a half Chinese girl be okay to wear a Qipao? A quarter? Does she have to be Han? Manchu? (as mentioned by GF). This is even before you get into the dynamics of how it's virtually exclusively Western/Westernized people of (even if of Asian ethnicity usually either citizens or Western educated) who are the most given to making noise about it, which is a whole other level of problematic, as it could sometimes literally be a case of Westernized people intentionally depriving authentic artists of a new market and customers.

And that's before you get into how virtually every single current culture is the result of thousands of years of mixing various close by cultures and creating new things based on that.

LimburgLimbo fucked around with this message at 11:46 on May 1, 2018

Darkest Auer
Dec 30, 2006

They're silly

Ramrod XTreme

LimburgLimbo posted:

And that's before you get into how virtually every single current culture is the result of thousands of years of mixing various close by cultures and creating new things based on that.

China has 5000 years of culture, do u know?

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
I think you'll find that if white culture spreads to other places, it is the oppressive white colonists forcing their culture onto everyone else. and that if you don't engage in other cultures, you are a racist and xenophobic. and that if you do engage in other cultures, it is actually cultural appropriation and you are racially insensitive.

basically what I am trying to say is gently caress white people

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
oh wait this isn't d&d

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://i.imgur.com/UFtnoon.mp4

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005


this is the most normal thing ever posted here

ElGroucho
Nov 1, 2005

We already - What about sticking our middle fingers up... That was insane
Fun Shoe
Is this where we serious post about glorious chinar?

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008
This is where we make cheap knockoffs of serious posts about Glorious China

Imperialist Dog
Oct 21, 2008

"I think you could better spend your time on finishing your editing before the deadline today."
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Is that China, a Chinatown, or Vietnam?

IT BURNS
Nov 19, 2012


That's Vietnam, no?

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Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
So if a white dude wears one of those round straw hats?

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