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exquisite tea posted:Game writing has improved tremendously over even the last few years and some of the most moving experiences I've had in any media have come from them. People hold up books as some kind of ultimate standard of artistic expression, but I read a lot of books too and I can tell you most aren't any better in terms of conveying big ideas. try reading some good books maybe?? 🤔
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fridge corn posted:try reading some good books maybe?? 🤔
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Nov 3, 2017 17:15
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exquisite tea posted:Game writing has improved tremendously over even the last few years and some of the most moving experiences I've had in any media have come from them. People hold up books as some kind of ultimate standard of artistic expression, but I read a lot of books too and I can tell you most aren't any better in terms of conveying big ideas. I agree with you about game writing, but I think literacy standards have changed with their associated medium. Audiences just aren't reading early-mid 20th Century stream-of-consciousness fiction like they used to, possibly because they've lost some of that ability on a broad cultural scale or possibly because daily living has become so pluralistic and fractured that it's hard to read longform without getting interrupted. I only read difficult stuff when I'm abroad. So basically what I'm saying is that literature, on the whole, ain't what it used to be. Books like 1984 will always be popular because the accessibility of their language works perfectly in tandem with a complex idea, but how common is it to see someone reading Joyce or Lowry anymore unless it's for a class?
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Nov 3, 2017 17:18
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fridge corn posted:try reading some good books maybe?? 🤔 I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read?
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Nov 3, 2017 17:20
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I don't think I know anyone my age or younger that's read 1984 for any reason other than it was required by school tbh
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Nov 3, 2017 17:22
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I think it’s harder to tell compelling stories in an interactive medium without compromising the player’s engagement.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:22
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Horizon did a pretty drat good job of it.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:28
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Manatee Cannon posted:I don't think I know anyone my age or younger that's read 1984 for any reason other than it was required by school tbh
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Nov 3, 2017 17:28
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exquisite tea posted:I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read? Today I just finished Beauty is a Wound by Eka Kurniawan and it was okay just okay. I was expecting more from it tbh but it may have suffered from a fairly wooden translation idk. Before that I read Satantango by Laszlo Krasznahorkai and it was excellent. He's quickly becoming one of my favourite authors
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Nov 3, 2017 17:31
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How good are the mods for skyrim? I'm mainly interested in added gear mods, or survival mods, things like that.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:33
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Boogalo posted:Horizon did a pretty drat good job of it. They sort of cheated by making that drat good story entirely removed from the player's actions. No one praises Horizon for the post-apocalypse storylines.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:37
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fridge corn posted:Today I just finished Beauty is a Wound by Eka Kurniawan and it was okay just okay. I was expecting more from it tbh but it may have suffered from a fairly wooden translation idk. Before that I read Satantango by Laszlo Krasznahorkai and it was excellent. He's quickly becoming one of my favourite authors I mostly read nonfiction. I just finished Scott Jurek's half-ultrarunning, half-vegan cookbook Eat & Run and am looking forward to North, his memoir on completing almost the entire Appalachian trail on a busted quad last year. His books ostensibly concern running but are really more about the psychology and mental fortitude of an endurance athlete. It's due out in April.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:40
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haveblue posted:They sort of cheated by making that drat good story entirely removed from the player's actions. No one praises Horizon for the post-apocalypse storylines. The past is event driven while the current is character driven. A woman searching for her mom and where her place is in the world is pretty good stuff. The past events you uncover would only work in this setting because you are experiencing what their conclusion was and how tragic some things turned out.
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Nov 3, 2017 17:44
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exquisite tea posted:I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read? The Old Man and the Sea for me.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:15
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exquisite tea posted:I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read? The Count of Monte Cristo. So good.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:16
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exquisite tea posted:I mostly read nonfiction. I just finished Scott Jurek's half-ultrarunning, half-vegan cookbook Eat & Run and am looking forward to North, his memoir on completing almost the entire Appalachian trail on a busted quad last year. His books ostensibly concern running but are really more about the psychology and mental fortitude of an endurance athlete. It's due out in April. Yeah, I like to read non-fiction too. I just started Doughnut Economics by Kate Raworth. However, I don't know if the emotional profundity of fiction and non-fiction, regardless of medium, is purposefully comparable.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:17
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Most recent first-time read was the collected first three novels of Le Guin's Hainish Cycle. Most recent read that would be considered "real" literature was probably The Name of the Rose.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:20
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The last memorable book I finished that isn't an essay collection is The Stories of Your Life and Others, which is easily one of the best short story collections I've ever read, not to mention some of the best sci-fi. Playstation4: I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read?
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Nov 3, 2017 18:27
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I read the first novel in Elena Ferrante's Neapolitan series a while ago and really liked it so I got the second one and it has been sitting unopened on top of a pile of other books for ten months. I am a bad reader. The book I'm currently reading is an academic technical history of the Nintendo Entertainment system. Did you know that there were dozens of Donkey Kong clones, including Crazy Kong, Konkey Kong, Congorilla, Kongo Kong, and Donkey King
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Nov 3, 2017 18:28
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The Count of Monte Cristo. So good. Hello there.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:28
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The Count of Monte Cristo would make a pretty sick Assassin's Creed game, basically.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:32
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MeatwadIsGod posted:The Count of Monte Cristo. So good. Im supposed to read this as part of some reading challenge thread in the book barn but I just haven't got around to it 😑
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Nov 3, 2017 18:38
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:yeah if you enjoy something without at least three layers of ironic self contempt between you and it you should probably just die
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Nov 3, 2017 18:40
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Yakuza 0 is the best story ever told
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Nov 3, 2017 18:52
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fridge corn posted:Im supposed to read this as part of some reading challenge thread in the book barn but I just haven't got around to it 😑 Treat yourself. Then again, I just might be biased.
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Nov 3, 2017 18:58
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Real hurthling! posted:Yakuza 0 is the best story ever told
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Nov 3, 2017 19:04
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Imo game writing has vastly improved over the last 7 or 8 years and there actually a lot of pretty well written games now. The story is still often at odds with the gameplay, or at the very least the gameplay doesn't really serve the story. I think using the medium well to tell a good story is the biggest thing that the industry has to tackle.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:11
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exquisite tea posted:I've read a lot of good books actually! What was the last book you've read? It's been a while since I actually finished something but the last ones where The Nest(Really great) and the Southern Reach books(Don't know if I'd reccomend them to someone but I enjoyed). I began Mistborn which I really didn't like but I'm trying to power through because I bought a box with all three and I don't want it to be a waste. Also trying 2666 on my sister's kindle, which is actually really interesting. Should be reading more but gaming keeps getting in the way.
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Samuringa posted:I began Mistborn which I really didn't like but I'm trying to power through because I bought a box with all three and I don't want it to be a waste. Also trying 2666 on my sister's kindle, which is actually really interesting. Mistborn suffers quite a bit from what is commonly known as "The Sanderson Avalanche", where you feel jack poo poo happens during the first 2/3rds of the book and then you reach a point where poo poo hits the fan and just can't put it down until you finish it. They're not flawless, but I really enjoyed the original trilogy. The new one not so much so far. If you like Sanderson's style check out his short novellas, Legion is really good and The Emperor's Soul in particular is a lovely, lovely read.
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Last book I read was The Handmaid's Tale back in August, and I only finished half because that's where I was at when my flight landed. I read only one book last year, a Le Carre novel that someone mentioned in the Metal Gear thread. Video games and the internet have ruined my brain lol. My media diet for the rest of my life is gonna be internet posts, news articles, and dad games.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:23
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Edmond Dantes posted:Mistborn suffers quite a bit from what is commonly known as "The Sanderson Avalanche", where you feel jack poo poo happens during the first 2/3rds of the book and then you reach a point where poo poo hits the fan and just can't put it down until you finish it. there's a new mistborn trilogy? how does that work with the ending to the first one
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Nov 3, 2017 19:27
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I'd really rather just consume trash media over reading a good book at this point in my life. I used to feel guilty about it, but I don't really give a poo poo anymore. I haven't touched a book in 3 years.
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I only read when commuting or traveling these days
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Nov 3, 2017 19:33
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Video game writing is ok, and the medium has done some very interesting stuff over the years in melding gameplay + narrative. I don't think it's fair to call it all trash; I think that, proportionally, there's about as much dross as any other multi-person artistic undertaking. One of the things that help novels be great is that they are, largely, one-person affairs. The intent can't be diluted as easily, the style and strength shines brighter, etc.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:34
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haveblue posted:I only read when commuting or traveling these days I prefer to read late at night to playing games, I get tired and most of them require too much of my active attention.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:35
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veni veni veni posted:I'd really rather just consume trash media over reading a good book at this point in my life. I used to feel guilty about it, but I don't really give a poo poo anymore. I haven't touched a book in 3 years. How about a trash book then?
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Nov 3, 2017 19:35
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My latest read was American Gods. Really slow to get going and filled with seemingly unrelated ministories, but it all came together in a pretty satisfying way.
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Nov 3, 2017 19:36
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Sakurazuka posted:I talk about games with the guy I know at work who plays games. Eh. I have a switch and haven't picked up Mario yet. I will eventually though.
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Andrast posted:How about a trash book then? Actually now that I'm thinking about it I have read a few and they were all trashy rock star biopics. I guess it's fiction I've lost interest in. I do actually like reading fiction. there is just so much good media permeating everything now and books require the most effort. there' always so many movies and shows I want to watch and games I want to play, poo poo posts I want to make... and it's all easier than making my add rear end devote a week to quietly reading a book.
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Manatee Cannon posted:there's a new mistborn trilogy? how does that work with the ending to the first one It jumps ~300 years in the future, so you have a pseudo-Victorian era setting; mistborns are no more, but now you have twinborns, which may have one allomantic power and one ferruchemichal one (the Terris descendants) so, in proper Sanderson fashion, the power combinations get funky. It's not bad, but it's not grabbing me the way the first trilogy did, and it's nowhere close to Stormlight Archives in quality. Edmond Dantes fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Nov 3, 2017 |
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