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thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JABJlvrZWbY

I don't know how much has changed since 2012 but these guys were convinced it was possible to steal EMV information and the pin, and that you're hosed trying to get charges reversed if that happens.

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fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Inspector_666 posted:

It also didn't help that the most advertised option was Google Pay and that it was limited to only Verizon phones.
That was/is kind of a different thing, though I think it was a revision of the same technology. This was on your credit or debit card, and I believe the common marketing name was "PayWave" when used with Visa credit/debit, and then MasterCard called it something like ContactFree. You didn't need any smartphone, just the card.

This is from some dude's video, but the4 arc logo and PayWave branding was about the same as I had on my card at the time:

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wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Inspector_666 posted:

It also didn't help that the most advertised option was Google Pay and that it was limited to only Verizon phones.

I think you have that backwards, Google Wallet didn't work on Verizon phones originally because it depended on access to the secure element in the phone, which Verizon locked down on their customized ROMs for the sole use of their own payment scheme once known as Isis.

Unfortunately a lot of the US has stockholm syndrome for Verizon. As a carrier they clearly hate their users, but so many people don't even think there are other viable options.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Roargasm posted:

IT is now moderating our company Slack for content. gently caress off yall

this makes me so irrationally angry that I can't stop :justpost:ing

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin
I'm in tech and I don't understand contactless payments nor do I have it set up afaik.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

fishmech posted:

That was/is kind of a different thing, though I think it was a revision of the same technology. This was on your credit or debit card, and I believe the common marketing name was "PayWave" when used with Visa credit/debit, and then MasterCard called it something like ContactFree. You didn't need any smartphone, just the card.

This is from some dude's video, but the4 arc logo and PayWave branding was about the same as I had on my card at the time:



It was also called VPay in some areas, but PayWave is the branding they rolled out more globally.

DigitalMocking posted:

I'm in tech and I don't understand contactless payments nor do I have it set up afaik.

Usually that means it is turned on ;)

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

wolrah posted:

I think you have that backwards, Google Wallet didn't work on Verizon phones originally because it depended on access to the secure element in the phone, which Verizon locked down on their customized ROMs for the sole use of their own payment scheme once known as Isis.

Unfortunately a lot of the US has stockholm syndrome for Verizon. As a carrier they clearly hate their users, but so many people don't even think there are other viable options.

Oh? I have AT&T and whatever the branded thing on all of the terminals was didn't work with my phone, that's all I remember.

EDIT: Then again I think I had that phone rooted and running CM9 so...

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.
Pissing me off: today was my first time interviewing someone for an engineer position, and my manager was supposed to shadow me to make sure I don't totally gently caress up.

I think I ran it okay but it was pretty nerve wracking.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Inspector_666 posted:

Oh? I have AT&T and whatever the branded thing on all of the terminals was didn't work with my phone, that's all I remember.

EDIT: Then again I think I had that phone rooted and running CM9 so...

It was definitely as wolah posted. Then again, Google manages to consistently be hideous with both consumer awareness and branding, as per the "exclusively on Verizon" branding that was inexplicably allowed to happen for the Pixel.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Both my Amex cards (one new within the past year) can do contactless payments.

The issue, as always, is finding somewhere other than McDonald's or Whole Foods that actually have wireless terminals.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008
Contactless, aka PayWave, seems more commonly used than chip and pin here in Australia. If you pull out a card the first thing the cashiers usually say is "Is payWave OK?", hell pretty much everywhere you go where most transaction are $100 the cashier will just hold out the EFTPOS machine for you to tap it without even saying anything.

I was in Sydney a while back and went to some alley setup where there's a bunch of restaurants and they only accepted contactless there, each place just had a little RFID reader sitting there connected to an iPad/iPhone and that was their POS terminal setup. Pretty common for food trucks around here to do the same as an alternative to cash.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Rudager posted:

Contactless, aka PayWave, seems more commonly used than chip and pin here in Australia. If you pull out a card the first thing the cashiers usually say is "Is payWave OK?", hell pretty much everywhere you go where most transaction are $100 the cashier will just hold out the EFTPOS machine for you to tap it without even saying anything.

I was in Sydney a while back and went to some alley setup where there's a bunch of restaurants and they only accepted contactless there, each place just had a little RFID reader sitting there connected to an iPad/iPhone and that was their POS terminal setup. Pretty common for food trucks around here to do the same as an alternative to cash.

I feel like as soon as the square and clover contactless hardware reaches a critical mass we'll see a lot more of it in the US.

Shalhavet
Dec 10, 2010

This post is terrible
Doctor Rope
Pissing me off: I bought a used C6220 and it came with 200-240v power supplies because I didn't change the dropdown on Natex's site. Now I'm out another $200 for replacements that work on 120v, and I have some nice D1200E-S1 paperweights, unless someone needs them for some reason.

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

worthless. posted:

Pissing me off: today was my first time interviewing someone for an engineer position, and my manager was supposed to shadow me to make sure I don't totally gently caress up.

I think I ran it okay but it was pretty nerve wracking.

What exactly is pissing you off here? Your manager no-showed or something?

Null of Undefined
Aug 4, 2010

I have used 41 of 300 characters allowed.

Weatherman posted:

What exactly is pissing you off here? Your manager no-showed or something?

Yeah, sorry I didn't make that clear. Manager didn't show and I had to do it without guidance. Wouldn't be a big deal if I had done it even once before.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

worthless. posted:

Yeah, sorry I didn't make that clear. Manager didn't show and I had to do it without guidance. Wouldn't be a big deal if I had done it even once before.

I was able to sit in on a few, then did a few coop witth my boss before they turned me loose in Geek Squad. I can't imagine going in cold like that.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

xzzy posted:

The most secure option is go back to cash and get a concealed carry license.

Yup. Why steal $2 in cash when you can steal a nice carry piece instead. :ninja:

(We need a :v::ninja:)

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Sales tax software.

2 years ago we bought Avalara, $10,000/year. They have a product where you install it on your IBM iSeries and you can download updated sales tax tables every month.

They discontinued that product at the beginning of this year. New option is spend $25,000/year on their SaaS product, which we are using in our new ERP system (but from another vendor for half the price).

Bonus points you get to spend $6,000 on 'implementation' again.

So we decided to just keep using the old tables for the first half of this year, then we won't need the product at all anymore. Well, management wants to setup shop in 3 new states (actually they already did and just came back saying 'we need to collect tax in x, y z').

We found a guy who can take sales tax tables from Reuters and upload them into our Avalara install and things should work okay. The other option would be to disable Avalara and re-format the Reuters tables into the specific tables in our current accounting software. He's done both ways so far and says it's easier to do the first one.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Bob Morales posted:

Sales tax software.

2 years ago we bought Avalara, $10,000/year. They have a product where you install it on your IBM iSeries and you can download updated sales tax tables every month.

They discontinued that product at the beginning of this year. New option is spend $25,000/year on their SaaS product, which we are using in our new ERP system (but from another vendor for half the price).

Bonus points you get to spend $6,000 on 'implementation' again.

So we decided to just keep using the old tables for the first half of this year, then we won't need the product at all anymore. Well, management wants to setup shop in 3 new states (actually they already did and just came back saying 'we need to collect tax in x, y z').

We found a guy who can take sales tax tables from Reuters and upload them into our Avalara install and things should work okay. The other option would be to disable Avalara and re-format the Reuters tables into the specific tables in our current accounting software. He's done both ways so far and says it's easier to do the first one.

Fire your mgmt

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!


They're going to do that to themselves.

They recently had us run some reports to find all the customers buying service parts from us, who we aren't directly contracting to repair our products. And now they are going to remove all their discounts to 'stifle competition'.

If we contract company A out to fix our products, we get 5% of the fee or whatever and they get 50% off parts. So if a customer is contacting a service provider directly (which is perfectly fine), the service provider has to now pay 50% more for parts and pass that along to the customer.

So basically we're loving the customer :haw:

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
Pissing me off yesterday:

I was moved to project to work with a new salesman that is trying to push into a new Federal vertical that requires a ton of paperwork. The salesman just started calling me and giving me all this work, and it was super overwhelming. I talked to my manager about it, because it was like he basically just picked an engineer to harass and suddenly I'm his assistant. So for a couple weeks I've been sparing with him and the management to figure out why he keeps dumping all this work on me (especially when we have system architects that do this job already).

Not pissing me off today:

After weeks of dealing with this nonsense I get pulled into a meeting with the GM, this sales guy, the director, and my manager, and they tell me that I'm officially being moved to work with him and that I need to start working with the architects (that work out of a different office) so we can have someone here that can do design and sizing work. Nice to get official confirmation that I need to actually do what this guy wants

Making me extremely happy right after:

Afterwards the GM calls me back into his office for a second and makes it clear that this is a promotion and they are going to give me a raise. :yotj:

Picardy Beet
Feb 7, 2006

Singing in the summer.
Wont piss me off for long anymore : catastrophically bad external SQL queries

By catastrophically I mean 300 000 000
logical reads for. 4 000 processed rows. This was making the production db crawl to its knees sometimes but as the server is a beast, it was generally quickly answered.
So, the loving query wasn't the culprit. Nope. It was. Dynamics Ax fault if the query was sluggish. Or the Db server fault. The facts that two predicates were on non indexed columns, that they were not correctly sorted in regards to the few indexes who could have limited the impact were nothing.
I am just an Ax developer, (with a very solid formation and experience on Oracle and MS database), but what do I know? I 'm not writing fancy Clojure.
It took three loving months for the rear end in a top hat responsible to concede that maybe, the query should be modified.
And because one of the column were getting killed in production as it was just totally useless
So, me and another Ax dev have now to correct the worst clusterfuck of bad SQL queries I've seen . Because you can be able to write in Clojure but not know how to make a correct inner join.
Fun fact : I studied lisp a long time ago, nothing in this Clojure code doesn't impress me at all.

rndmnmbr
Jul 3, 2012

CC chat: they recently replaced the readers at our restaurant with chip-enabled ones, with the chip slot blocked so customers still have to use the magstripe. Waiting on getting the software patched for chip and signature, which may never happen. But we're still getting pushback from our customers, because the readers don't buffer and customers still assume they can swipe their card whenever they want instead of waiting for me to enter their payment method and the reader to activate. It's amazing how goddamned furious people get when you tell them to wait for the light to turn green then swipe, or if they're faster than my mouth can get the words out, tell them to swipe again.

Samizdata
May 14, 2007

Bob Morales posted:

They're going to do that to themselves.

They recently had us run some reports to find all the customers buying service parts from us, who we aren't directly contracting to repair our products. And now they are going to remove all their discounts to 'stifle competition'.

If we contract company A out to fix our products, we get 5% of the fee or whatever and they get 50% off parts. So if a customer is contacting a service provider directly (which is perfectly fine), the service provider has to now pay 50% more for parts and pass that along to the customer.

So basically we're loving the customer :haw:

Depending on where you are, you might want to watch for the developments in the Right to Repair cases.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Samizdata posted:

Depending on where you are, you might want to watch for the developments in the Right to Repair cases.

I really hope those cases come through for DIY people including myself in my personal life. In my professional life I barely trust trained professionals with the information to service the equipment we produce.

IllusionistTrixie
Feb 6, 2003

Things pissing me off: Me.

I hosed up massively yesterday. I wanted to strip out an extra proxy address from all our 1500 contact entries prior to syncing with office 365. ie the domain.local address they had. We're in a split notes/exchange environment and those entries are how the exchange people email the notes users.

Instead of stripping out the addresses I deleted the contact entries and recreated them. This is apparently a huge no no, as now all emails to those entries are generating NDRs due to incorrectly cached entries. Clearing the cache only seems to resolve the problem for new email most of the time, replies are all hosed unless you type the email address in exactly and meeting requests are also borked.

There doesn't seem to be any clever way of fixing it, as somehow trying to work out what the old full path entry was and add that to the new entry as a custom x500 is impossible.

I've thought about checking the AD recycle bin to "un-delete" but given that I've put in new copies I don't know what extra insanity that'll cause.

gently caress.

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

You are in a world of poo poo. Enjoy! :v:

porktree
Mar 23, 2002

You just fucked with the wrong Mexican.

Picardy Beet posted:

Wont piss me off for long anymore : catastrophically bad external SQL queries

By catastrophically I mean 300 000 000
logical reads for. 4 000 processed rows. This was making the production db crawl to its knees sometimes but as the server is a beast, it was generally quickly answered.
So, the loving query wasn't the culprit. Nope. It was. Dynamics Ax fault if the query was sluggish. Or the Db server fault. The facts that two predicates were on non indexed columns, that they were not correctly sorted in regards to the few indexes who could have limited the impact were nothing.
I am just an Ax developer, (with a very solid formation and experience on Oracle and MS database), but what do I know? I 'm not writing fancy Clojure.
It took three loving months for the rear end in a top hat responsible to concede that maybe, the query should be modified.
And because one of the column were getting killed in production as it was just totally useless
So, me and another Ax dev have now to correct the worst clusterfuck of bad SQL queries I've seen . Because you can be able to write in Clojure but not know how to make a correct inner join.
Fun fact : I studied lisp a long time ago, nothing in this Clojure code doesn't impress me at all.

How does that poo poo pass code review :) (rhetorical) - Y'all need a DBA, or someone that can read a tkprof and explain plan.

Sefal
Nov 8, 2011
Fun Shoe
Not pissing me off: My old boss

He just wrote a recommendation on my linkedin. Feels good to get a recommendation from a director of a company

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

My boss (well, the owner of the company) is currently getting interviewed by some writer from New York over Skype, he's having someone ghostwrite his auto biography. Guess who called at 7am asking for the 'good webcam'

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

wolrah posted:

I think you have that backwards, Google Wallet didn't work on Verizon phones originally because it depended on access to the secure element in the phone, which Verizon locked down on their customized ROMs for the sole use of their own payment scheme once known as Isis.

Unfortunately a lot of the US has stockholm syndrome for Verizon. As a carrier they clearly hate their users, but so many people don't even think there are other viable options.

poo poo like this is why went to the iPhone. At least Apple doesn't let Verizon mess with it like they do with Androids. Seemed like the only people who got mess with Android's rom was Verizon.

I'm locked into Verizon due to a family plan.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

skooma512 posted:

poo poo like this is why went to the iPhone. At least Apple doesn't let Verizon mess with it like they do with Androids. Seemed like the only people who got mess with Android's rom was Verizon.

I'm locked into Verizon due to a family plan.

You can get the Pixel straight from Google and use it on any carrier in the US, including Verizon I believe. They're just the only carrier you can buy it through, which doesn't even mean that much since Google offers the same type of financing plan.

MF_James
May 8, 2008
I CANNOT HANDLE BEING CALLED OUT ON MY DUMBASS OPINIONS ABOUT ANTI-VIRUS AND SECURITY. I REALLY LIKE TO THINK THAT I KNOW THINGS HERE

INSTEAD I AM GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT IN OTHER THREADS SO MY OPINION CAN FEEL VALIDATED IN AN ECHO CHAMBER I LIKE

The Pixel costs as much as the IPhone. The Pixel2 (slated for release in... october? It's right after the next IPhone release) will not contain an audio jack and may, or may not, have wireless charging capability, otherwise should have all the bells and whistles from what I have read.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Is the wait time on Pixels under a month yet?

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

Bob Morales posted:

Is the wait time on Pixels under a month yet?

Depends on the model. A 32 GB black 5" looks like it should ship immediately. A 32 GB black 5.5" ships in 2-3 weeks. A 128 GB of anything just has a waiting list with an unknown timeframe.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Bob Morales posted:

Is the wait time on Pixels under a month yet?

Is this a phone worth having? What is SA's hot take on it.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Sickening posted:

Is this a phone worth having? What is SA's hot take on it.

Coworker has one and says it's the best android phone available. Period.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus

The Fool posted:

Coworker has one and says it's the best android phone available. Period.

I can agree with this assessment. It is by far the best android phone I've ever used.

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Sickening posted:

Is this a phone worth having? What is SA's hot take on it.

I loving love mine, and everybody I know who has played with it says they want one.

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bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


I love mine.

I've known a few people that have switched to it from Apple and never looked back. It's a seriously impressive device in a way that's not conveyed by a spec sheet.

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