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Boogaleeboo posted:I mean you say that like they beat Whitebeard, rather than sneak in at the end of everything when he was barely standing to gank him. And even after all that, they ran the second Shanks' crew showed up. You think Shanks is jobbing to the C team? Well they need to become the A team somehow...
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Boogaleeboo posted:The Kidd alliance is loving clown shoes and Shanks is the most respected pirate still standing after Whitebeard died, they aren't taking him down. I really really hope this is true or I'm gonna be pissed. Shanks should just meet Luffy, have a party, maybe a friendly sparring match to test strength, decide he's strong enough and sort of retire and just chill even more than he already does. Give whatever armada he might have to the strawhats and all his territory and just sail around looking for good booze for the rest of the series. I also do not think Blackbeard needs to be anymore than sneaky ganking douchebags who can't win real straight up fights against the top players. He works better as the rear end in a top hat who shows up at the opportune moment and just backstabs people and that's what he should keep doing. Only not to Shanks. And the Kidd aliance has already been set up as being powerful by association with all the other new guys so Shanks beating them the gently caress up would only make Shanks' crew look better and get rid of useless pirates that are not yet etablished enough to need to fight strawhats. Or it could be an even match I guess but they bail when they realize they can't win, only not loose against red hair pirates which would also set them up as pretty drat powerful of an alliance and then the strawhats can fight them. Man with Hat fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 08:45
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Guys, Luffy still needs to chat 1-on-1 with Shanks re: the Straw Hat. Something heart-felt from Shanks acknowledging how far Luffy's come and that he should hold on to the Straw Hat a bit longer until he finds the One Piece and becomes Pirate King and succeeds Roger, etc. Anything else is just crazy talk. e: I wonder what Blackbeard's appearance will be revealed to be. He seems to be bent on the whole ruling the era inverse-of-Luffy thing as part of being Emperor and he's steadily been getting flashier/gaudier in appearance since Mocktown. Given how Jesus Burgess has gotten a majestic beard and everything, I'm just imagining Blackbeard as a Babylonian-esque emperor laden with gold and jewels to the gills, a beard-sheath made out of gold chainmail, etc. Wherever he is right now is probably practically a palace filled with gold and treasure and all kinds of material wealth. e2: The Kidd alliance is probably facing the same crisis Ace did with Whitebeard; ie getting crushed by Kaidou then deciding they have no choice but to submit to his rule in opposition to Shanks. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 08:50
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:Guys, Luffy still needs to chat 1-on-1 with Shanks re: the Straw Hat. Something heart-felt from Shanks acknowledging how far Luffy's come and that he should hold on to the Straw Hat a bit longer until he finds the One Piece and becomes Pirate King and succeeds Roger, etc. Yes, this will definitely happen. As Shanks lies on the ground dying of fatal wounds.
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Feb 5, 2016 08:57
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I'm more curious as to what's going to happen with the Revolutionaries after the Blackbeard Pirates invade Baltigo. Given Luffy's reunion with Sabo, Dragon will probably feel it's time to ask for Luffy's help with Sabo as a messenger to help in fighting back against Blackbeard. This will probably happen after the matter with Kaido and Big Mom is resolved.
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Feb 5, 2016 09:03
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I don't want the crew to disappear again! Take them with you Luffy
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Feb 5, 2016 09:10
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Straw Hats versus Red Hair would be a really fun arc simply because it would be a battle between two sides that genuinely like and respect each other, and are going all-out because of that respect. So there's still tension, because the Straw Hats still have to prove themselves against some of their mightiest foes to date, but there'd be this pretty great feelgood tinge to it all that you usually only see in sports shows rather than fighting shonen. 
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Feb 5, 2016 10:46
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all ya'll hella underselling kid, oda wouldn't set up that super alliance first WITH kid whos probably gonna be the whitebeard to luffys gol d roger by having him getting chumped by shanks, i love shanks too but theres too many signs pointing to shanks losing if it was anyone else from the supernovas i'd agree but kid looks like he has too much plot importance to be punked like that drjuggalo fucked around with this message at 11:22 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 10:56
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Andrew_1985 posted:I don't want the crew to disappear again! Take them with you Luffy The Straw Hats, Heart pirates, samurai and minks all have a bone to pick with Kaidou, so I predict a brief scrap when the samurai turn up, then them putting their differences aside to go save Sanji then wreck Kaidou's poo poo, together.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:47
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Love that the cat was named third son.
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Feb 5, 2016 11:51
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drjuggalo posted:all ya'll hella underselling kid, oda wouldn't set up that super alliance first WITH kid whos probably gonna be the whitebeard to luffys gol d roger by having him getting chumped by shanks, i love shanks too but theres too many signs pointing to shanks losing Maybe I forgot something but why is Kidd so different from the other Supernovas?
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Feb 5, 2016 12:09
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Asuron posted:They won't. That's why Kidd was setup as going after him, because Luffy will never attack Shanks properly because he owes him so much despite anything he says to the contrary. It'd be the equivalent of him saying he'll attack Ace or Sabo if they were an Emperor, it's just not gonna happen. By removing him it's easier to setup a conflict that makes sense, especially because Kidd is pretty clearly depicted as being a force on par or even better than Luffy I didn't mean that they would attack Shanks and the Red Hair Pirates. More that they would face off to see how strong the Stawhats have actually become. A much more friendly kind of clash.
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Feb 5, 2016 13:18
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Man with Hat posted:Maybe I forgot something but why is Kidd so different from the other Supernovas? well, kidd does fight with luffy and law against the marines after luffy punches the tenryubito in the face, plus he's being focused on has the leader of the other supernova alliance. I kinda expect them to drop their plans of gunning for shanks after kaido lands on their hideout tho; kidd's group will probably be important when the strawhats deal with kaido
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Man with Hat posted:Maybe I forgot something but why is Kidd so different from the other Supernovas? maybe having the highest bounty out of all the supernovas and him and law coming outside the slave auction to fight off the marines (which now that law is a confirmed D im like 80% sure kid is gonna be kid.D or something hilarious like that) edit: unless kaido has done something or is doing something to kids crew (like news of kaido being preoccupied or something) i dont see shanks not losing to the kid alliance drjuggalo fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Feb 5, 2016 |
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Feb 5, 2016 13:45
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kaido literally landed on their home base, so I'd say that yea he did something to kidd's group. that had to have happened for a reason, and that reason is probably to draw that group into whatever the strawhats+law are gonna be doing
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Feb 5, 2016 13:53
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drjuggalo posted:edit: unless kaido has done something or is doing something to kids crew (like news of kaido being preoccupied or something) i dont see shanks not losing to the kid alliance do you not think shanks is going to fight Blackbeard or do you seriously see him losing to blackbeard and kidd?
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Feb 5, 2016 14:03
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I really don't see any indication Kidd is more powerful or important than any of the other supernovas. Like they're all clearly set up to be the next generation of pirate leaders but I don't see anything that says Kidd is more important than Capone or Bonney or anyone. He's definitely not important enough to take down Shanks.
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Feb 5, 2016 14:06
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dordreff posted:I really don't see any indication Kidd is more powerful or important than any of the other supernovas. Like they're all clearly set up to be the next generation of pirate leaders but I don't see anything that says Kidd is more important than Capone or Bonney or anyone. He's definitely not important enough to take down Shanks. What? As stated he had the highest bounty, is the leader of a supernova alliance, and fought with Law and Luffy back in Sabaody signifying they're all equals.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:08
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I think it's because Luffy respects Shanks that he'll go all out against him.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:34
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I hope the Strawhats and the Red Hairs duke it out in a Davey Back fight
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Feb 5, 2016 16:40
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Andrew_1985 posted:I don't want the crew to disappear again! Take them with you Luffy That one mink seemed interested in crashing the party with Luffy, and the crew needs to get in on this, and there's so many characters just barely introduced... ...Luffy should pilot Zou itself to the party.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:42
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The Kidd pirates are also one of only two crews to have two supernovas on it.
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Feb 5, 2016 16:46
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Nighthand posted:...Luffy should pilot Zou itself to the party. Luffy crashing a wedding on top of a giant elephant, Cat Viper gets to come along as well... Yes. Yes I accept this.
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Nighthand posted:That one mink seemed interested in crashing the party with Luffy, and the crew needs to get in on this, and there's so many characters just barely introduced... there really are a ton of balls in the air right now. we have luffy's beef with big mom over fishman island, sanji's political wedding, the minks' beef with kaido over the samurai, law wanting to get on with taking on kaido, kaido's beef with the strawhat/heart pirates over doflamingo, jack attacking doflamingo's marine escort to impel down, the samurai telling that monkey mink who they were, the missing ninja, kidd's gang planning to take down shanks and then getting kaido dropped on their heads, and there's still the reverie to come. am I missing anything? I guess caesar's still around too, tho I have no clue what kind of role he'll play at this point, if any. wano has been getting some set up thanks to the samurai as well, tho who knows when that'll pay off (unless sanji's there, I don't see it being important for a long time). just seems like a lot more set up for the next arc than usual and I wonder how it'll go down
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The ninja has been with them the entire time, he's just a dumbass who forgets to show himself.
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Kidd, Law, and Luffy are going to be the three people replacing Kaido, Big Mom, and Shanks. With Blackbeard having already replaced Whitebeard, that'll make the new Emperors the biggest names from the "worst generation". Since Luffy runs poo poo differently though, Law and Kidd are going to be semi-allied/buddies with him unlike in the current situation where all the emperors are in a cold war stalemate. Thus my guess is that Luffy goes off to rescue Sanji while the rest of the crew goes with Law to get ready for the Kaido fight, where they'll eventually all team up with Kidd. While wrecking Sanji's wedding, Luffy will be helped out by Jimbei who also got the invite to be a guest. After Luffy's cobbled together team beats Big Mom he'll rendezvous with the rest of the Straw Hearts and face off against Kaido. Luffy, Law, and Kidd will have a similar scene to when they faced off against the marines at the auction house, only it'll be against Kaido's army. After running the field on two of the emperors, Luffy will go meet up with Shanks. The marines and the world government will have short scenes where they try and figure out if this is a war or just generally what is going on. The prevailing opinion will be that Strawhat is trying to take out Shanks, which no one really thinks he'll be able to do. Garp will hear this and laugh his rear end off while eating biscuits and drinking tea. Then he'll explain to Sengoku that Shanks is Luffy's hero. Cut to a super tense seeming face off with the Strawhats and the Red Hair pirates, which quickly dissolves into the biggest, loudest party ever. Somewhere along the way they'll have stopped off at Wano and dropped off the samurai. After the party, Blackbeard is going to try and enact some sort of cowardly scheme to take out the Strawhats but end taking out the Red Hair pirates instead. Alternatively he'll come to try and take some sort of directions to Raftel from Shanks, ending in Shanks' death. In some order the Strawhats then go to Elbaf, beat Blackbeard, and go to Raftel. On Raftel they find out about the Void Century and realize that Vega Punk has this info, perhaps having been a member of Roger's crew. Final fight between the World Government and the Strawhats happens at the upcoming Reverie and at least some of the match ups are Franky v Vega Punk, Zorro v Mihawk, Sanji v Akainu. Garp, Sengoku, Colby, and the Smoker group turn on the Marines and join with the Strawhat Armada in the fight after the truth of the Void Century is revealed.
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I know what I forgot: one of the blackbeard pirates followed sabo back to the revolutionary army's base. that seems like it'll be post big mom/kaido stuff to me tho
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Kidd seems to have been positioned as important in some way. He clearly has an incredibly powerful fruit and was positioned similar to Luffy; Kidd wanted to be 'Pirate King' like Luffy, but when someone made fun of his dream he killed them. Which seems to have led to his incredibly high bounty, apparently. And yeah, like someone else said, Kidd and Law together took down a Pasifista before the Time Skip.
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N O T C A N O N Seriously, though, I hate that the anime showed that. I had always assumed that Law and Kidd were having trouble with the Pacifista, until it left to assist Sentoumaru. Makes sense that he brought a few Pacifista with him, but what else would they be doing on the island, that others were ready to respond to his call so quickly? The Straw Hats beat one, then Sentoumaru calls another right away, what, was it buying souvenirs? On an island currently on high alert after Luffy attacked a Tenryuubito?
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Nighthand posted:That one mink seemed interested in crashing the party with Luffy, and the crew needs to get in on this, and there's so many characters just barely introduced... Mulderman posted:Luffy crashing a wedding on top of a giant elephant, Cat Viper gets to come along as well...
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Feb 5, 2016 19:34
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I've been waiting this entire arc for Luffy to tame and pilot Zou to go stomp rear end It must happen
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Luffy can talk to the elephant like he talked to those Sea Kings. EDIT: Oh wait, Luffy heard them, but didn't actually talk to them.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:You all had one loving job, guys, come on! You think they'd take turns with watch shifts so the others can sleep, but here we are!
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drjuggalo posted:all ya'll hella underselling kid, oda wouldn't set up that super alliance first WITH kid whos probably gonna be the whitebeard to luffys gol d roger by having him getting chumped by shanks, i love shanks too but theres too many signs pointing to shanks losing Why does Luffy need a Whitebeard? I mean people tried to say that Coby was being set up as his Garp, but it's been 20 years and the coolest thing Coby has done is cry and distract an insane bastard for a few seconds. Maybe the next generation isn't being setup as a mirror of the old one, you know? And Kid is also an rear end in a top hat, whose bounty is only so high because he leaves a shitload of civilian casualties in his wake. I can't see Luffy ever really respecting him as a peer.
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Boogaleeboo posted:Why does Luffy need a Whitebeard? I mean people tried to say that Coby was being set up as his Garp, but it's been 20 years and the coolest thing Coby has done is cry and distract an insane bastard for a few seconds. Maybe the next generation isn't being setup as a mirror of the old one, you know? And Kid is also an rear end in a top hat, whose bounty is only so high because he leaves a shitload of civilian casualties in his wake. I can't see Luffy ever really respecting him as a peer. Kidd was... the coolest guy!!
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I could actually see Zoro finally facing off with Mihawk and beating him at the Marineford War Part 2: Electric Boogaloo that is supposed to happen after Luffy finds One Piece and becomes Pirate King. They'll probably also cross back to Reverse a Mountain and meet up with Laboon and Crocus to cross-reference him with the knowledge they discover about Roger and his crew with what they found out about the Void Century.
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Your Dunkle Sans posted:I could actually see Zoro finally facing off with Mihawk and beating him at the Marineford War Part 2: Electric Boogaloo that is supposed to happen after Luffy finds One Piece and becomes Pirate King. They'll probably also cross back to Reverse a Mountain and meet up with Laboon and Crocus to cross-reference him with the knowledge they discover about Roger and his crew with what they found out about the Void Century. I'm really interested to see how the entire Strawhat v. Admirals thing is going to work out. Right now it's p much set up as Luffy vs Akainu, Zoro vs Fujitora, Sanji vs Kizaru. I'm very curious as to what Green Bull does, maybe he'll fight Jinbei?
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Advice posted:N O T C A N O N Would they even have had trouble? The anime team extended it, but really Law could end that fight in two seconds with his power. The Pacifistas don't have protection against it like Haki users do that's for sure.
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Thunderbro posted:I'm really interested to see how the entire Strawhat v. Admirals thing is going to work out. Right now it's p much set up as Luffy vs Akainu, Zoro vs Fujitora, Sanji vs Kizaru. I'm very curious as to what Green Bull does, maybe he'll fight Jinbei? I'm skeptical that Sanji will be quite Admiral level even then, and Zoro is likely to be occupied with fighting Mihawk. I'm inclined to think something more like Sabo vs. Akainu, Luffy vs. Kizaru, Dragon vs. Green Bull
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Thunderbro posted:I'm really interested to see how the entire Strawhat v. Admirals thing is going to work out. Right now it's p much set up as Luffy vs Akainu, Zoro vs Fujitora, Sanji vs Kizaru. I'm very curious as to what Green Bull does, maybe he'll fight Jinbei? Yeah, that's right, I basically forgot about Green Bull. If Fujitora's goal is to dissolve the Shichibukai, then how does GB fit in to all of this? My god, this should be a total clusterfuck, but Oda is still making it work.  That's pretty impressive for any writer alone to manage this many moving parts in a story, it's like spinning a dozen plates at once without them falling off and breaking.
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