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AndyElusive posted:Well, he probably exaggerated how fast he completed the Kessel Run but I fully expect the Young Solo movie to actually center around it or at least expand on it. He's not exaggerating. He pulled a random unit of measurement out his rear end. The entire joke is that a parsec is a unit of distance, while Han thinks it means 'per second' or something. Fans have tried various bullshit explanations for the joke, but Star Wars simply uses the metric system.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:He's not exaggerating. He pulled a random unit of measurement out his rear end. The entire joke is that a parsec is a unit of distance, while Han thinks it means 'per second' or something. It's not a fan thing, it was officially licensed EU stuff. I'm not 100% sure if it made the jump to Canon or not, but at least in Legends, the Kessel Run was measured in distance because you could shave distance off the run by flying closer to the Maw cluster of black holes.
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jivjov posted:It's not a fan thing, it was officially licensed EU stuff. I'm not 100% sure if it made the jump to Canon or not, but at least in Legends, the Kessel Run was measured in distance because you could shave distance off the run by flying closer to the Maw cluster of black holes. The EU is written by the autistic.
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jivjov posted:It's not a fan thing, it was officially licensed EU stuff. Those aren't at all exclusive.
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Jan 30, 2017 02:08
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It's really weird that Star Wars Fans wants Han Solo to shoot Greedo first but aren't okay with him bullshitting about the Kessel Run, it's almost like he's a...scoundrel???
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ungulateman posted:It's really weird that Star Wars Fans wants Han Solo to shoot Greedo first but aren't okay with him bullshitting about the Kessel Run, it's almost like he's a...scoundrel??? They don't want jokes in their documentaries. Everything is literal and taken at face value, which is why the Han shoots at the same time change annoys them so much.
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sassassin posted:The EU is written by the autistic. Nice casual ableism you loving shithead
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jivjov posted:Nice casual ableism you loving shithead Don't kinkshame.
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StopHangingDjs posted:I disagree that Rogue One wasn't a typical Star Wars film. It felt pretty typical to me just without lightsabers. You're looking at the superficial stylistic elements like laser swords, space planes, and wind-up-toy tanks instead of the fact that the Quirky Diverse Team Of Heroes protagonists all die in the third act. You know, the actual... narrative structure? The... thing the movie wants the audience to take away about the titular "star wars"? A New Hope and its followups are military recruitment movies. Rogue One is a war movie.
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Let me just clear the air here and say I'm fully ok with Han making poo poo up and being a scruffy nerf hearder scoundrel, but none of us honestly have any real idea what Han is talking about when he feeds Old Ben that line about the Millenial Falcon. The only things we have to go on about Kessel is that they have spice mines there and the rest got shoved into Legends and that he's using a measure of distance to explain how quickly he did something. Stands to reason though that if Rey heard about the Kessel Run completion then it's probably now officially something rather than just a con that Han made up to try and weasel an old man out of more credits. Not saying he wouldn't do that though, dudes a sleez with a heart of gold.
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Couldn't it be that it's just something he made up off the top of his head, and then people called him on it later, so he needed to come up with a bullshit justification ("um well there's a black hole nearby so you can cut some distance off the run but it's not safe") and wound up accidentally successfully convincing the entire galaxy that this is one of his major accomplishments?
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:I might need to go back and rewatch the original trilogy, I never caught Alec Guinness's emoting in this scene and it's hilarious. Makes me wonder what other more things I never picked up on. He makes another bemused face when he sees the Falcon for the first time and Han makes another boast. I had never noticed it until it was pointed out to me the last time I watched ANH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k-941c-ZTc&t=75s
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:He's not exaggerating. He pulled a random unit of measurement out his rear end. The entire joke is that a parsec is a unit of distance, while Han thinks it means 'per second' or something. Han is an actual spaceship pilot, though, you figure they would know the lingo.
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All those rigorous written tests... for being a space pirate.
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I choose to believe that his boast is not a category error, but is valid technobabble we are meant to parse as "implausibly fast."
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Some fans seem happy that Disney does not plan to recreate Carrie Fisher's face using CGI. This seems rather odd, because they've been doing that for ages in the novels and comics magazines and this latest TV cartoon and action figures. I thought they did a good job recreating Tarkin; I was impressed, not creeped out.
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I have a feeling the standalone young Han Solo movie is going to be titled The Kessel Run: A Star Wars Story.
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21 Muns posted:You're looking at the superficial stylistic elements like laser swords, space planes, and wind-up-toy tanks instead of the fact that the Quirky Diverse Team Of Heroes protagonists all die in the third act. You know, the actual... narrative structure? The... thing the movie wants the audience to take away about the titular "star wars"? I dunno. We got a group of heroes, a girl with a pedigree and a attitude, a pilot of questionable morals and a hidden heart of gold, a snarky robot, a comedy relief who also provides the muscle and a wise old man. The man and the woman become closer at the end but this time don't hook up because Disney. An old bearded white guy bites the dust but not before imparting crucial knowledge to the heroes. That's most of the original crew sans Luke and a R2D2. They also have the goal of stopping a giant super weapon in space. In fact the same exact weapon. The heroes go from a wretched hive of scum and villany to a enemy base to a suicide run. Except team Rogue One doesn't make it out. I mean the fact that the characters die at the end is different but the characters and events progress not too differently from the old Star Wars. Unless you're saying Rogue One is a grittier darker movie then the others. In which case I disagree I'd say ROTS is darker, edgier and also a better prequel (but not by much) Even calling Rogue One a war movie doesn't sit right by me. Aren't war movies supposed to be downbeat, bloody and end on a sad note? Rogue One ends with the heroes doing a noble sacrifice and Darth Vader having a "awesome badass" slaughter of soldiers. Course I could be wrong on this point. This doesn't feel like Saving Private Ryan in Star Wars to me though StopHangingDjs fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jan 30, 2017 |
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StopHangingDjs posted:Aren't war movies supposed to be downbeat, bloody and end on a sad note? Not necessarily, no.
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Man A New Hope is loving boring. Saved by the Death Star attack.
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Teek posted:He makes another bemused face when he sees the Falcon for the first time and Han makes another boast. I had never noticed it until it was pointed out to me the last time I watched ANH. Obi Wan is a catty bitch.
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General Dog posted:Obi Wan is a catty bitch. The prequels made Obi-Wan my favorite Star Wars character. He is more rash than Han Solo and just as snarky.
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Teek posted:He makes another bemused face when he sees the Falcon for the first time and Han makes another boast. I had never noticed it until it was pointed out to me the last time I watched ANH. Haha, it's a straight-up eye roll. Never noticed that before.
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jivjov posted:It's not a fan thing, it was officially licensed EU stuff. I'm not 100% sure if it made the jump to Canon or not, but at least in Legends, the Kessel Run was measured in distance because you could shave distance off the run by flying closer to the Maw cluster of black holes. The joke there is the fans' inability to grapple with the concept of 'a protagonist lying' ended up literally ripping a big loving hole in space-time. See also: the black hole in Obiwan's map. "Where did the planet go??"
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Nothing says rebellion quite like the world's largest data mining company and corporate lobbyist coming to the rescue. Wait https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/opinion/silicon-valley-takes-a-right-turn.html?_r=1 edit: Sorry for the table-breaking image, is there really no way to replace? Jewmanji fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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It looks better in a solid color.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:See also: the black hole in Obiwan's map. "Where did the planet go??" Sidious is so powerful, he can alter the canon.
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"Have you heard the tale of Darth Plagueis the Wise?" "No, he isn't in any of the EU sources I've read..." 
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General Dog posted:Sidious is so powerful, he can alter the canon. Pray he doesn't alter it any further
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DeimosRising posted:Pray he doesn't alter it any further This deal is getting worse all the time
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What does the abbreviation EU mean? What does it take for something that wasn't in the movies to become canon? I'm excited about the potential for an Obi-Wan Kenobi movie that takes place between ep. III and ep. IV. What do people think it could be about? I'm looking to expand my knowledge of Star Wars further, but the sheer amount of books, comic books, animated series, animated movies, and video games has me very overwhelmed. What do people recommend? I think I tried watching the animated series when it first came out around 2003 and I was graduating high school and I thought it was lame. Does it hold up; is it worth trying to get into as an adult? Ulillinguist fucked around with this message at 04:26 on Jan 31, 2017 |
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In order: Extended Universe It never will be, sorry It, conceptually, is a great idea, but will ultimately prove unsatisfying.
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Ulillinguist posted:What does the abbreviation EU mean? Expanded Universe Anything published post-Disney buy-out is canonical, anything from before that is Legends. (Things like video games are vetted for authenticity, but are non-canonical) Though it would never happen, I'm hoping for a straight adaptation of the Kenobi novel.
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Ulillinguist posted:I'm looking to expand my knowledge of Star Wars further, but the sheer amount of books, comic books, animated series, animated movies, and video games has me very overwhelmed. What do people recommend? I think I tried watching the animated series when it first came out around 2003 and I was graduating high school and I thought it was lame. Does it hold up; is it worth trying to get into as an adult? The vast, vast majority of Star Wars is fanfiction of varying, usually low, quality. Don't stress about paying attention to all of it. Most of it isn't even canon these days, if that's something that concerns you. Outside of the movies, the best content is The Clone Wars (both versions, but you already said you dislike the 2003 one). The series based on the Clone Wars movie is quite tonally different, and while the movie and the first season are pretty bad it really picks up from season 2 onwards. Rebels is a currently running show set between episodes III and IV which is sort of like an uglier, less coherent version, but it's still decent. There's a currently active thread in the Book Barn focused on the non-movie content, particularly the novels: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3338643
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There are things that are in the movies and things that are not in the movies. In that respect, canonicity is basically meaningless.
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Barudak posted:Obi-wan is the equivalent of a guy who tells you "hold my beer" before doing something stupidly dangerous and then turning around and telling you not to sip his beer cause it kills braincells. The man loves fighting, drinking, and fighting in that order and I feel like i should point out the only things he explicitly trains or invokes Luke to do are all combat related. And according to The Clone Wars has a woman on the side.
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Owns owns owns
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"He said parsecs because it sounds like a spacey-sounding version of a real unit of time." Good. "He said it because he is an idiot, which is further corroborated by many of his actions in the story and the state of his ship." Better. "Parsec, in the real world, is actually a unit of distance, meaning Han is actually describing a complex mathematical equation-" False
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Hbomberguy posted:"He said parsecs because it sounds like a spacey-sounding version of a real unit of time." But the man you're referring to is ostensibly the best pilot in the trilogy and pilots a spacecraft that blows up two Death Stars. Given the evidence I think he's a guy that knows a lot about flying.
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