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flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

It's not that the scary ninth grade arithmetic without the variables being explained that should matter, it's that they said they'd give us electoral reform and then didn't because it didn't look like we were going to choose the system they wanted.

We won't serve you. We'll serve ourselves and expect you to thank us when we drop scraps that you happen to enjoy.

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

flakeloaf posted:

It's not that the scary ninth grade arithmetic without the variables being explained that should matter, it's that they said they'd give us electoral reform and then didn't because it didn't look like we were going to choose the system they wanted.

We won't serve you. We'll serve ourselves and expect you to thank us when we drop scraps that you happen to enjoy.

the extra funny thing is that if they had gone with the system we wanted, it would have paid in their favour immensely over the last few years

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.
Why would the Liberal party ever do anything to earn a vote when they can use the strategy of pointing at the conservatives and then blame the voter when they lose.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

ZShakespeare posted:

Why would the Liberal party ever do anything to earn a vote when they can use the strategy of pointing at the conservatives and then blame the voter when they lose.

This strategy is why the Ontario Liberals have not been an official party for over half a decade.

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC

PT6A posted:

If the Conservatives want to depress Liberal turnout they should probably focus on poo poo like that instead of Trudeau's imagined crimes and vaccine nonsense that only CHUDs care about, honestly.

That's exactly what they are doing. The past 6 months have all been about pinning the affordability issues on to Trudeau. Housing, carbon tax, carbon tax cutout flip-flopping, immigration, and inflation fueled by government spending.

And the polls reflect that.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

On that list, the only things that can be pinned on the Trudeau government are immigration and the carbon tax waffling.

The housing affordability crisis is the culmination of decades of successive governments failing to invest in housing, which has caused a crisis that only massive government spending will alleviate. Neither the Liberals nor the Conservatives are going to jump on that grenade, so housing will remain hosed for the foreseeable future.

The carbon tax is a good tax in that it accomplishes what it sets out to do. I think BC has a better implementation by using it to reduce income tax, but the federal tax is okay.

Inflation has been caused by global supply chain disruption, not government spending.

Guigui
Jan 19, 2010
Winner of January '10 Lux Aeterna "Best 2010 Poster" Award
I seem to recall an entire photoshop-friday's worth of alterations to that picture of Monsef's formula - everything from Justin's Blackface picture, to dickbutt, and everything in between...

HackensackBackpack
Aug 20, 2007

Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?
Housing transactions are also a significant chunk of Canada's GDP and a major wealth vehicle for the largest voting cohort that actually votes, so no government is ever going to do anything to fix it.

TheKingofSprings
Oct 9, 2012
Since immigration is on the table for discussion, I’ve been having a lot of trouble reconciling my usual viewpoint for immigration (people deserve a better life and opportunity, immigration good, we’ve hosed over a lot of other countries) with the current situation (holy poo poo this is too many people, our infrastructure isn’t built for this, make it stop make it stop) and wanted to hear the thread opinion on it.

Obviously poo poo like Conestoga College is a nightmare and there should be multiple people in prison for it but I’m interested in the general viewpoint.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


TheKingofSprings posted:

Since immigration is on the table for discussion, I’ve been having a lot of trouble reconciling my usual viewpoint for immigration (people deserve a better life and opportunity, immigration good, we’ve hosed over a lot of other countries) with the current situation (holy poo poo this is too many people, our infrastructure isn’t built for this, make it stop make it stop) and wanted to hear the thread opinion on it.

Obviously poo poo like Conestoga College is a nightmare and there should be multiple people in prison for it but I’m interested in the general viewpoint.

Personally my stance is we do need people, especially young people as the population ages. Those people probably shouldn't have to pay some random rear end college $20,000 to do so, so just let them come. Offer an alternative path to immigration to give same people coming through the international student path an opportunity to come over without doing that, but set per province to a level infrastructure can reasonably absorb. Probably could be a bit higher than the 200-300k on average people who immigrated yearly prior to COVID but probably not the 900k or whatever it was in the past year.

The massive recent spike can directly be pinned on provincial fuckery, specifically with loving over post secondary education funding, pushing colleges to take advantage of a visa to bring in higher playing international students to make up the budget gap, a visa nobody in the government ever thought to cap because it was never an issue in the several decades of that visa's existence up until a couple years ago so I don't see anything wrong with the feds adding some sort of cap on it if the provinces aren't going to stop loving around. But there really should be an alternative path since most of those students aren't coming because Conestoga College offers a prestigious world renowned educational experience lol. So let's acknowledge that and give them another way to come since as I've said, everyone recognizes we need a good level of immigration for at the very least economic reasons.

Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 17:02 on May 11, 2024

acumen
Mar 17, 2005
Fun Shoe
A whole bunch of problems that have been brewing for decades but now we can blame brown people for it

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.

acumen posted:

A whole bunch of problems that have been brewing for decades but now we can blame brown people for it

Lets be honest, it'll be muslimsHam-rear end

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

ZShakespeare posted:

Lets be honest, it'll be muslimsHam-rear end

I don't think Doug Ford caused ALL of the problems.

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS
https://nationalpost.com/news/jerry-seinfeld-duke-graduation-speech

Wrap it up Palestinailures, they got us on a technicality

H.R. Hufflepuff
Aug 5, 2005
The worst of all worlds

Blood Boils posted:

https://nationalpost.com/news/jerry-seinfeld-duke-graduation-speech

Wrap it up Palestinailures, they got us on a technicality

How has the Nationalist Post actually managed to get worse?

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

everyone recognizes we need a good level of immigration for at the very least economic reasons.

It's true, the Canadian economy (landlords) can't survive without regular blood transfusions (international students that will pay inflated rents)

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Blood Boils posted:

https://nationalpost.com/news/jerry-seinfeld-duke-graduation-speech

Wrap it up Palestinailures, they got us on a technicality

why would trudope do this

mom and dad fight a lot
Sep 21, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 23 days!
Isn't Duke University the place that someone became a famous pornstar to afford tuition?

DynamicSloth
Jul 30, 2006

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

H.R. Hufflepuff posted:

How has the Nationalist Post actually managed to get worse?

Trudeau started subsidizing them with public revenues.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

National Post has a big editorial about how PP must deliver “Healthcare choice” to Canadians if elected.

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

Mr. Apollo posted:

National Post has a big editorial about how PP must deliver “Healthcare choice” to Canadians if elected.

Oh for gently caress sakes

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


mm yes, being able to choose between getting hosed or paying for healthcare

Borden
Jul 23, 2008

Mr. Apollo posted:

National Post has a big editorial about how PP must deliver “Healthcare choice” to Canadians if elected.

Who needs any sort of optimistic future?

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Mr. Apollo posted:

National Post has a big editorial about how PP must deliver “Healthcare choice” to Canadians if elected.

I'm sure a certain thread banned poster is just about losing their mind right now.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.

Mr. Apollo posted:

National Post has a big editorial about how PP must deliver “Healthcare choice” to Canadians if elected.

Written by contributing editor Holden Bloodfeast.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

It just occurred to me, what are the odds of PP using the not withstanding clause to get around the Canada Health Act?

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


Mr. Apollo posted:

It just occurred to me, what are the odds of PP using the not withstanding clause to get around the Canada Health Act?

I mean it's just federal legislation, if he wanted to and had a majority he could just cancel or amend it.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Oxyclean posted:

mm yes, being able to choose between getting hosed or paying for healthcare

Man, that 1-2 combo of Prime Minister PP and Trump Term Two (now featuring Project 2025) is gonna suck massive balls. Which is ironic, because ball sucking will be outlawed as deviant sexual behaviour Under His Eye.

Borden
Jul 23, 2008

nine-gear crow posted:

Man, that 1-2 combo of Prime Minister PP and Trump Term Two (now featuring Project 2025) is gonna suck massive balls. Which is ironic, because ball sucking will be outlawed as deviant sexual behaviour Under His Eye.

Feels like we’re gonna get some insane level of privatization. Like all the roads in the country being sold off or something to that effect

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Borden posted:

Feels like we’re gonna get some insane level of privatization. Like all the roads in the country being sold off or something to that effect

I wonder if the Irvings will keep the New Brunswick name once they officially own it.

Freshwater Louie
Jun 22, 2004

fffffffff
The Jim Pattison-Irving merger, finally encompassing the oligarchical provincial sandwich. The Canadian Arctic remains a rapidly warming hat that everyone has forgotten is even there

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.
I think roads are one of those things that will always lose money, hence why they will always be public. We can't be having privatized losses.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


ZShakespeare posted:

I think roads are one of those things that will always lose money, hence why they will always be public. We can't be having privatized losses.

They will be privatized until they have deteriorated beyond profitability and maximum value has been extracted, then returned for a full refund.

Karatela
Sep 11, 2001

Clickzorz!!!


Grimey Drawer

ZShakespeare posted:

I think roads are one of those things that will always lose money, hence why they will always be public. We can't be having privatized losses.

You're just not doing it right, then. You sign a 99-year contract for being paid five dollars for every dollar of projected maintenance work you're supposed to do on it (not actual work, just "projected"). Get some ruinous penalty clauses for the government ending it early, force the government to do actual replacement work when it turns to poo poo, and then a few clauses on how you can toll it and guaranteed minimum payouts, and it's easy! Probably not even need seven figures in bribes to lock it in.

E;fb

Newfie
Oct 8, 2013

10 years of oil boom and 20 billion dollars cash, all I got was a case of beer, a pack of smokes, and 14% unemployment.
Thanks, Danny.

H.R. Hufflepuff posted:

How has the Nationalist Post actually managed to get worse?

It's incredible to remember we bailed out a media company responsible for invisible hand NFTs. https://www.readthemaple.com/post-media-scrubs-nft-market-auction/

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.
Yeah I'm not good at capitalism

Blood Boils
Dec 27, 2006

Its not an S, on my planet it means QUIPS

Freshwater Louie posted:

The Jim Pattison-Irving merger, finally encompassing the oligarchical provincial sandwich. The Canadian Arctic remains a rapidly warming hat that everyone has forgotten is even there

We already have that they just call the Liberal & Conservative parties for tax purposes

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

ZShakespeare posted:

I think roads are one of those things that will always lose money, hence why they will always be public. We can't be having privatized losses.

The 407 made over half a billion in profit last year.

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Wake me up when they go crying to the province for a handout to fix the drat thing

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ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

War gives the right to the conquerors to impose any condition they please upon the vanquished.

McGavin posted:

The 407 made over half a billion in profit last year.

I looked into this and I can't find anything wrong with it, so I'm going to go ahead and say that we should privatize all the roads. I am not kidding.

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