Baculus posted:

this would be a nice start.

I have several bones to pick with the absolute fuckwits who post "doctrine" ships on contract and get poo poo wrong half the time. maybe this will help that problem.

(altho a lot of it is people obviously skimping on modules and extras so they can undercut other people throwing contracts up.)

if at all possible I'd love to see us maintain some of the standard fits people should use for armor gangs, chemos, and pve poo poo (abyssals mostly) - it would help take the guesswork out of fitting for our newer players or retvets who hear large smart bomb and immediately scream out "ILL BRING MY ROKH"

Baculus posted:

I've had 100% capswarm carrier skills for more than a 10 days and the loving auth on gf.com has not updated

ive opened a ticket but does anyone know a good solution to this? should I delete the character and then re-add them?

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

But composites not components and make sure to factor in your install fees or else you will cry

FAT32 SHAMER posted:

But composites not components and make sure to factor in your install fees or else you will cry

Rudeboy Detective posted:

I was in that same situation earlier in the year and just waited it out. I don't remember how long it took, but it was a fistful of days before it updated.

I'd probably get somebody with a hat to tell you whether re-adding characters is a good idea or if it will reset your counter somehow.

Dalael posted:

I decided to go through all my calculations again. I wanted to know exactly how much I could make by sourcing all components & minerals from Jita/Amarr if I simply bought from current sell orders.


Taking into account that I own a fully research Caracal BPO, each caracal would cost me ~14,742,578 if I build them myself, which is in line with current sell orders.
The cost of my Cerb BPC comes up to ~1,644,621 per cerberus considering I did 11 inventions, 4 of which succeeded allowing me to build up to 32 Cerbs. This includes cost of decryptors and Datacore.

Total cost of each cerberus (components + bpc + caracal) = ~178m. Cerbs currently sell for ~ 265m.

Now this does not account for logistic cost of bringing all that poo poo to 1DQ which I still have to figure out, but i'm tired and i spent all day working on Excel. Which I barely know how to use so

Hopefully the fact that i'm in no hurry and will use buy orders to buy my components will allow me the make the first few cerbs profitable. As for the other 28, I will do as you suggested.



PS: Let me know if this sounds way off

Stereotype posted:

Ah yeah if you're using buy orders to get the components that math sounds right, I'm not sure how often component buy orders get filled though. I was doing the math using 1DQ1 sell prices, which are a lot more and leave you with no margin.

Also remember that building in 1DQ1 is super expensive, the build order on the cerb is going to be ~12m. The build cost is scaled by the estimated cost of the product as well as the System Index, which is sky high in 1DQ1. If you build it in let's say MO- it would only be 4m, but then you'd have to jump it back to sell it.

Rudeboy Detective posted:

I was in that same situation earlier in the year and just waited it out. I don't remember how long it took, but it was a fistful of days before it updated.

I'd probably get somebody with a hat to tell you whether re-adding characters is a good idea or if it will reset your counter somehow.

Baculus posted:

I have 30 formulae for all the big ticket reactions and 15 of each of their bases. plus 2-5 of everything else.

maybe I should start renting them out

Potato Salad posted:

Whoever put current stratop fits in waffe's shared fittings in game, thank you so loving much.

Open fitting tool, filter corp fits, search "Ares" or whatever, click the Dramaqueens fit, click Buy All, hop into the new hull, click Fit to Active Ship, warp back into the fight.

It's 13 easy clicks to get a ship well below contract price. Even puts all the refit modules, drugs, and ammunition that I need into the cargo holds.

Dalael posted:

I recalculated everything and it turns out i'm barely gonna break even before moving my poo poo from jita to 1dq

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Just listened to the brave sota. Sounded like a dude reading from a script with a gun to his head.

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Just listened to the brave sota. Sounded like a dude reading from a script with a gun to his head.

SpaceDrake posted:

https://zkillboard.com/kill/89894608/

I got on a Nag kill! Of the alt of the leader of Brave!

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Whatever happened to the carrier meta where everyone assigned drones to a single fast locking subcap? I assume that would still work.. I've noticed we really never deploy carriers anymore. Or maybe I just dont play enough.

Dalael posted:

FYI Atrum is not kidding when he says that you can save a lot of money by just doing a multi buy

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Whatever happened to the carrier meta where everyone assigned drones to a single fast locking subcap? I assume that would still work.. I've noticed we really never deploy carriers anymore. Or maybe I just dont play enough.

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Whatever happened to the carrier meta where everyone assigned drones to a single fast locking subcap? I assume that would still work.. I've noticed we really never deploy carriers anymore. Or maybe I just dont play enough.

Jazzzzz posted:

pretty sure that's what folks were doing in E3, it's called skynetting, but I dunno if it still works by assisting your fighters to a drone bunny or if there's something different to it now

The Slack Lagoon posted:

Wherever I copy the fit list from the forms multi buy fucks by up parsing any module with charges

Laslow posted:

Why does Brave even have a sota?

That’s like the Galveston Bay Pizza Vendors Association recording a press release and uploading it to YouTube. It could have been an email to seven people and read by two.

SnoochtotheNooch posted:

Whatever happened to the carrier meta where everyone assigned drones to a single fast locking subcap? I assume that would still work.. I've noticed we really never deploy carriers anymore. Or maybe I just dont play enough.

Klyith posted:

Carriers don't use normal drones, and CCP added limits to how many drones can be assisted to any one character to cut back on the tactic. They want players to at least press F1, a PVP fleet that you could AFK in the middle of combat was too much even for them.

SpaceDrake posted:

What carriers have gotten in trade for this is that fighters are decidedly not drones anymore; they use an entirely different deployable unit system that is much more like fighter groups in Homeworld 2 than anything, and makes the Homeworld<->EVE comparisons even more obvious. You can now, separately from your own vessel, assign move commands to each fighter squadron you launch (or select them all as a group and command that way), initiate their weapons individually, manually activate their prop mods, have them hold at a position or orbit a given object, and you can do this from clear across the grid. You can literally order them to travel thousands of kilometers if you don't mind them being shot at. And you can also target from 4500km away, with a dedicated highslot sensor booster that allows you to lock most ships like a frigate would (so you lock even ceptors in under 5 seconds). It's the closest EVE has ever come to playing a bit like a strategy game on the individual player level, and for a Carrier Dork™ like me it absolutely loving rules.

This is also a good part of the reason the Massacre At M2 even happened - the other side of Vily's enormous, colossal fuckup is that he evidently wasn't keeping track of where fighters were deployed. They were, in fact, deployed above the keepstar, right into the jump point established for the titans. This meant that there was no travel time involved at all; the fighter-bombers began attacking the instant their carriers could get a lock. This meant that, even under ideal conditions and loading correctly, the Trapi titans were under fire almost as soon as they took the field; even with good load conditions, they were under fire before the pilots could even engage defenses, never mind call for repair support. (And, jumping into a loaded system, many of them did not get good loading conditions.) The fighter positioning was key to how this all worked; previously, those fighters would've had to be delegated to other pilots to make it work, but in this battle, all the Imperium carrier pilots had to do was lock target, tell the fighters to attack, and it was off to the races.

(can you tell I am excited for and enjoy how carriers work now )

SHISHKABOB posted:

When can I start ratting in a carrier again.

SpaceDrake posted:

final victory over vily will bring the glorious decades of carrier ratting back to the common goon

SpaceDrake posted:

What carriers have gotten in trade for this is that fighters are decidedly not drones anymore; they use an entirely different deployable unit system that is much more like fighter groups in Homeworld 2 than anything, and makes the Homeworld<->EVE comparisons even more obvious. You can now, separately from your own vessel, assign move commands to each fighter squadron you launch (or select them all as a group and command that way), initiate their weapons individually, manually activate their prop mods, have them hold at a position or orbit a given object, and you can do this from clear across the grid. You can literally order them to travel thousands of kilometers if you don't mind them being shot at. And you can also target from 4500km away, with a dedicated highslot sensor booster that allows you to lock most ships like a frigate would (so you lock even ceptors in under 5 seconds). It's the closest EVE has ever come to playing a bit like a strategy game on the individual player level, and for a Carrier Dork™ like me it absolutely loving rules.

This is also a good part of the reason the Massacre At M2 even happened - the other side of Vily's enormous, colossal fuckup is that he evidently wasn't keeping track of where fighters were deployed. They were, in fact, deployed above the keepstar, right into the jump point established for the titans. This meant that there was no travel time involved at all; the fighter-bombers began attacking the instant their carriers could get a lock. This meant that, even under ideal conditions and loading correctly, the Trapi titans were under fire almost as soon as they took the field; even with good load conditions, they were under fire before the pilots could even engage defenses, never mind call for repair support. (And, jumping into a loaded system, many of them did not get good loading conditions.) The fighter positioning was key to how this all worked; previously, those fighters would've had to be delegated to other pilots to make it work, but in this battle, all the Imperium carrier pilots had to do was lock target, tell the fighters to attack, and it was off to the races.

(can you tell I am excited for and enjoy how carriers work now )

SHISHKABOB posted:

The Shortest Path posted:

That all sounds fun as hell. How many dozens (hundreds?) of skill injectors do I need to bum off people to be able to fly one?

MrTargetPractice posted:

Anyone have a suggestion for an Amarr BS laser ratting ship. I'm already sick of deal with drones.

L0cke17 posted:

Not in delve, not with this many hostiles around.

The main benefit of drones, at least until ccp nerfs them, is you can be afk or multibox them for very little effort.

As a solo player actively ratting in a subcap is barely worth the income it provides compared to the effort it takes, in my opinion.

If this were safer times I'd point you to the nightmare to try, but those are very expensive and also you'll just die if you try to take pretty much any BS out right now for ratting.