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Well the post was homophobic yes, but it is pretty impossible to deny that the whole thing had rather homoerotic, fetishistic undertones.
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projecthalaxy posted:My favorite stupid angle was when Edge and Booker T spent 3 months including a Wrestlemania match over who should get an endorsement deal for a new brand of Japanese hair products and everyone had to sit around and pretend that any of it made any sense. I'm so sad I missed this because it sounds like The Perfection of storytelling in professional wrestling.
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I don't really remember watching the hand segment, and I didn't see the Vick segment live. The Kane/Lita stuff in 2004-05 was definitely the worst. Even if you ignore the Snitsky part.
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Feb 21, 2013 07:27
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The worst I've ever seen in any context could be the Souled Out Miss NWO segments but I didn't see those live at the time. Seen live? Um Trish Stratus being mopped with "sewage" or when she had to strip and bark like a dog has to be up there. I don't know if those two are so much dumb though. So overall I'm gonna go with when TNA repeated the warrior mirror bit with the women although I'm sure there's been way worse than that.
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Was it ever determined whether Abdullah the Butcher had hep C (and subsequently gave it to people)? I remember watching that documentary and he said he was waiting on his test results, but then nothing recent on google says anything about whether he came up positive.
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I posted:Big Show coffin surfing.
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The worst angle for me was anything to do with Val Venis, particularly his feud with Kaientai and the 'CHOPPY CHOPPY YOUR PEE PEE' segment. I mean, the casual racism, stupidly crass/cartoony situation and the fact that I was supposed to care about the fact that a porn star wrestler was getting into a feud over who he was screwing was like, the perfect storm of poo poo that resulted in like everyone in my neighborhood and school walking in to see what I was watching on television at that exact moment. On a somewhat related tangent, Val Venis never really clicked for me as a character, either. His whole "HELLO LADIES" thing seemed like he was going to be coming off as a sleazier Rick Rude (which would've been awesome) but instead it seemed like he was being positioned to be a face, which could've worked, but the execution had a guy coming across as a heel but acting like a face. It was really loving weird. 
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Nut Bunnies posted:I don't really remember watching the hand segment, and I didn't see the Vick segment live. The Kane/Lita stuff in 2004-05 was definitely the worst. Even if you ignore the Snitsky part. I dunno man, it included this which is simultaneously the dumbest segment I've seen in pro wrestling and one of my favorites.
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A couple of months after I started watching wrestling Mae Young exposed her gross tits at the Royal Rumble. I was 10.
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Web Jew.0 posted:A couple of months after I started watching wrestling Mae Young exposed her gross tits at the Royal Rumble. I was 10. I'm so glad I fast forwarded that because I wanted to see Cactus Jack beat up HHH
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John Heidenreich raped Michael Cole. There is no worse storyline.
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Perdido posted:The worst angle for me was anything to do with Val Venis, particularly his feud with Kaientai and the 'CHOPPY CHOPPY YOUR PEE PEE' segment. That definitely seems like a polarizing segment but I loved it.
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Suben posted:I dunno man, it included this which is simultaneously the dumbest segment I've seen in pro wrestling and one of my favorites. This is the greatest gif ever.
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The dumbest segment that I've seen that isn't mentioned already was Rikishi's "I did it for the Rock". I think that point forward Rikishi's popularity never recovered.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that essentially anything with AJ in the past year has been some of the worst, dumbest stuff I've ever seen in wrestling.
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Perdido posted:On a somewhat related tangent, Val Venis never really clicked for me as a character, either. His whole "HELLO LADIES" thing seemed like he was going to be coming off as a sleazier Rick Rude (which would've been awesome) but instead it seemed like he was being positioned to be a face, which could've worked, but the execution had a guy coming across as a heel but acting like a face. It was really loving weird. I really hated Val Venis when I was younger, but I grew to like him and always thought that his gimmick would have been greatly improved if when he won matches his music started off with him going "GOODBYE LADIES" in the same exact tone. Web Jew.0 posted:A couple of months after I started watching wrestling Mae Young exposed her gross tits at the Royal Rumble. I was 10. My friend went to that Rumble and he was about the same age. I remember it happening but I don't really remember seeing anything watching it on TV (thankfully). It was in response to the Kat doing it first right? I forget whether you actually saw anything then either.
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LightsGameraAction posted:
Kat and Jacqueline did it first I think.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Kat and Jacqueline did it first I think. Jacqueline did it? Wasn't she like late-thirties at this point at least? And horribly siliconed-up even by WWF standards?
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That one almost seemed like more of an accident. It was during a match, she lost her top, and...um, she was ridiculously big.
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ijii posted:The dumbest segment that I've seen that isn't mentioned already was Rikishi's "I did it for the Rock". I think that point forward Rikishi's popularity never recovered. Yeah I've been rewatching this now, and having Austin's first big program back be with RIKISHI of all people, ugh it's just so lame. I guess they realized that when they pretty quickly shifted it over to HHH being the mastermind behind Austin being ran over
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triplexpac posted:Yeah I've been rewatching this now, and having Austin's first big program back be with RIKISHI of all people, ugh it's just so lame. What I never got about that storyline was that the only clue was people seeing someone with blonde hair driving the car. Now, Rikishi certainly has blonde hair, but holy gently caress how is that the only detail you can pick out when you see a fat Samoan dude crammed behind the wheel of a sedan?
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flashy_mcflash posted:What I never got about that storyline was that the only clue was people seeing someone with blonde hair driving the car. Now, Rikishi certainly has blonde hair, but holy gently caress how is that the only detail you can pick out when you see a fat Samoan dude crammed behind the wheel of a sedan? They made it a blond so that they could tease either Triple H or Shawn Michaels as the culprit.
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Devil Child posted:They made it a blond so that they could tease either Triple H or Shawn Michaels as the culprit.
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Devil Child posted:They made it a blond so that they could tease either Triple H or Shawn Michaels as the culprit. Yes they did. I'm saying, though, that when you see Rikishi driving a car, his blonde hair is probably not going to be the most distinguishing feature you notice or remember. Rikishi is a pretty recognizable dude and looks nothing like HHH, HBK, or really any other wrestler on the roster.
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Fiveace Attorney posted:I don't think that makes it any less stupid. Making it either Hunter or Shawn were the only choices they could pick that weren't stupid. I guess if they wanted to make it someone that no one saw coming while keeping it a blond, they probably should've just picked Eddie, given that he actually knew how to work heel and cut heel promos without sounding like a complete goof. But it still would've been better to just make it Hunter or Shawn, since the only reason there was not to make it Hunter was to turn him face, which Hunter didn't want anyway since being the fourth biggest face or the company when you can be the number one heel ain't no choice. e: flashy_mcflash posted:Yes they did. I'm saying, though, that when you see Rikishi driving a car, his blonde hair is probably not going to be the most distinguishing feature you notice or remember. Rikishi is a pretty recognizable dude and looks nothing like HHH, HBK, or really any other wrestler on the roster. The stupid choice was picking Rikishi at all. I love the guy, but he doesn't work as a heel after you've gotten him over as a member of Too Cool. Devil Child fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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It could have been worse. It could have been 8-Ball in a blond wig.
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Grendels Dad posted:It could have been worse. It could have been 8-Ball in a blond wig. 
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Devil Child posted:
He didn't work the way he was written, but there's no reason why he couldn't have been a talking version of Umaga. What I didn't like about Heel Rikishi was that they never really seemed to commit to it. I think a guy whose gimmick was so visual with Too Cool needed some kind of ring attire change or something to cement that he had a different attitude.
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flashy_mcflash posted:He didn't work the way he was written, but there's no reason why he couldn't have been a talking version of Umaga. What I didn't like about Heel Rikishi was that they never really seemed to commit to it. I think a guy whose gimmick was so visual with Too Cool needed some kind of ring attire change or something to cement that he had a different attitude. He started wearing an all-leather suit with "BAD MAN" written across it. C'mon,y'all. Don't you get that he's a bad guy?
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Devil Child posted:Making it either Hunter or Shawn were the only choices they could pick that weren't stupid. Well the most logical guy and the one who was actually hinted at on the PPV was Test, but then his stock in the company plummeted across the next year. In their defence, and this is only a limited defence, but Rikishi had actually had a good year establishing himself in the upper midcard and had been getting good babyface responses. It's just that then deciding the best way to use this momentium was by turning him heel made no sense.
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rotinaj posted:He started wearing an all-leather suit with "BAD MAN" written across it. His new theme music even confirmed it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VE_66QM3c
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DeathChicken posted:That one almost seemed like more of an accident. It was during a match, she lost her top, and...um, she was ridiculously big. I'm pretty sure it was some bikini contest with sable, possibly the same time sable came out and revealed just 2 black latex handprints covering her tits. I was maybe 12 and it was the bomb. Actually I think it happened with her more than once, the bikini contest was one of her boobs popping out but im sure there was a match where she was on a refs shoulders for some reason and her whole top got ripped off. Attitude era really wasnt for kids when you look back at it. History Comes Inside! fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Feb 21, 2013 |
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There was an evening gown match on Raw in 98 that was Sable vs Jackie, and Jackie popped out of her dress multiple times. Pretty much on every bump they would come out. I couldn't believe they were actually showing it (it was like the last match), but the weird thing was the next day, I couldn't find a single thing about it online. That was in the day when every wrestling "news" site had their own Raw reports and screencaps and such, and I didn't see a single mention of it, or see any picture. It wasn't until a few years ago that I could download that episode and confirm that it actually happened.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Well the most logical guy and the one who was actually hinted at on the PPV was Test, but then his stock in the company plummeted across the next year. In their defence, and this is only a limited defence, but Rikishi had actually had a good year establishing himself in the upper midcard and had been getting good babyface responses. It's just that then deciding the best way to use this momentium was by turning him heel made no sense. Test was probably a worse pick than Rikishi.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Well the most logical guy and the one who was actually hinted at on the PPV was Test, but then his stock in the company plummeted across the next year. In their defence, and this is only a limited defence, but Rikishi had actually had a good year establishing himself in the upper midcard and had been getting good babyface responses. It's just that then deciding the best way to use this momentium was by turning him heel made no sense. Now, was it his fault that his stock fell, or was it HHHs taking over his place in the Stephanie storyline to further his own real life ambitions by making a then-kinda-frumpy Stephanie fall in shoot love with him?! Test was merely a victim of the most diabolical power grab since Richard III.
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Supreme Allah posted:Now, was it his fault that his stock fell, or was it HHHs taking over his place in the Stephanie storyline to further his own real life ambitions by making a then-kinda-frumpy Stephanie fall in shoot love with him?! ...thank God.
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Devil Child posted:But it still would've been better to just make it Hunter or Shawn, since the only reason there was not to make it Hunter was to turn him face, which Hunter didn't want anyway since being the fourth biggest face or the company when you can be the number one heel ain't no choice. Here's the weird thing about all this: During this time period HHH was a face anyway. He turned face out of his feud with Angle. And then he turned back heel when he was revealed to be the mastermind of the Austin hit & run anyway. Or am I remembering that last bit wrong? I just don't know why they bothered with Rikishi as the bridge between Austin getting hit & the HHH reveal. The only thing I can think of is that HHH wasn't happy with his post-Kurt face role in the company, and demanded he turn back heel and be put in a program with Austin. That way Kurt could be the champ, but HHH would still be the main event 
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I'm pretty sure Hunter was a face at the time, but if I recall correctly, he didn't want to be since he knew, at best, he'd be the number three face in the company, most likely number four, but if he was heel, he'd be number one. He was right, though. It would've been hard enough being a bigger face than Undertaker, let alone Rock and Austin, when he had no competition as the companies top heel, and had yet to feud with either 'Taker or Austin.
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I don't think Rikishi being the driver was terrible on its own, but his loving insane explanation killed the angle. 3 time world champion Rock needed help because Samoans were held back. 
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