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Valdara
May 12, 2003

burn, pillage, ORGANIZE!

nonanone posted:

Too much magenta in the face (at least on my work monitor) and the hair highlights are still really green. Better than your first try though! Also you need some lines in the face so that it looks realistic. You want to choose lines that would be there because she's crinkling her face. Keep trying again and again, eventually it will look better every time.

Thank you for the specifics. We're a really red family (she's olive-toned with slightly red cheeks, and I am super fair with bright red cheeks), so I forget that it's not normal. I reduced the opacity on the spot fixes around her eyes so she has some smile wrinkles again, I did a bunch of mask adjustments to her hair to get rid of the green, but now I think it's too purple (which it was in the first place, so I took it too far green when trying to fix THAT).

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1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Honestly, the original photo looks a lot better in terms of how it renders her skin tones. Even in the latest version she still looks unnaturally pale and magenta.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

convert it to black and white!

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Paragon8 posted:

convert it to black and white!

This is the only reasonable suggestion. The color is loving horrendous as shot.

Phanatic posted:

Except when new cameras come out with new RAW formats and you need to upgrade to CS12 for it to be able to read them.

I will be buried with my Mark 3.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I like random challenges like this, so I tried quickly fixing the colour of that shot



I only spent like 5 minutes on it though, so I didn't really worry about the background or the hair so much as the skin tone. The background is pretty blown out, I just wanted to see if I could get her skin looking ok.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

It's passable but it still would just be more flattering in black and white.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
One thing I've always wondered:



How do people get this kind of look & feel to a photo? How much of it is the original photo and how much is retouching? It kind of feels like an illustration, almost, not a photo.

whereismyshoe
Oct 21, 2008

that's not gone well...

triplexpac posted:

One thing I've always wondered:



How do people get this kind of look & feel to a photo? How much of it is the original photo and how much is retouching? It kind of feels like an illustration, almost, not a photo.

Clarity sliders to the right. Those types of pictures are almost entirely retouching, lots of compositing & dodging and burning, bracketing, etc.

Valdara
May 12, 2003

burn, pillage, ORGANIZE!

triplexpac posted:

I like random challenges like this, so I tried quickly fixing the colour of that shot



I only spent like 5 minutes on it though, so I didn't really worry about the background or the hair so much as the skin tone. The background is pretty blown out, I just wanted to see if I could get her skin looking ok.

Thanks. Turns out she already submitted the original photo, so this is just practice. What did you do to adjust this one?

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

Valdara posted:

Thanks. Turns out she already submitted the original photo, so this is just practice. What did you do to adjust this one?

I just messed around with a few levels & curves layers until it got to a point where I liked it. I wish I could give you more specific instructions, but I really just do it by feel until I think it's working.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

triplexpac posted:

One thing I've always wondered:



How do people get this kind of look & feel to a photo? How much of it is the original photo and how much is retouching? It kind of feels like an illustration, almost, not a photo.

Haha, my friend is the photographer who did this: http://deanbradshaw.com.au/Diageo-Stark-Raving

This was shot in the studio against a bluescreen, everything else is compositing and crazy retouching. He got his start by retouching Tim Tadder's work.

Here's a behind the scenes video I did for this shoot:
https://vimeo.com/46667864

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
Haha wow, small world. I'll take a look!

I do some graphic design work where I'd love to be able to do retouching like this, but I am not sure the source photos are good enough / my skills are up to the task.

triplexpac fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Nov 20, 2012

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Yeah there was definitely a lot of production around this - these images are used as labels for wine bottles, so there was already a ton of design that went into the shoot before a single frame was snapped on that Phase One.

Fun fact, this shoot happened before the D800e was released. Now that my friend owns one, he never rents anything medium format.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

the digi op doing the comps on the fly was super impressive. Whenever I assist post heavy photographers there's always an awkward "it'll look totally different finished" conversation.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
That was Dean himself doing the comps on site - I'm sure the digi op could've handled it, but he was mostly there to make sure that Capture One was functioning and that there weren't any software/hardware issues.

InternetJunky
May 25, 2002

1st AD posted:

Haha, my friend is the photographer who did this: http://deanbradshaw.com.au/Diageo-Stark-Raving

This was shot in the studio against a bluescreen, everything else is compositing and crazy retouching. He got his start by retouching Tim Tadder's work.

Here's a behind the scenes video I did for this shoot:
https://vimeo.com/46667864
Interesting video!

Not that I don't appreciate the final images, I think they look awesome, but that is a hell of a lot of staff for some some wine label photos. Wouldn't it have been significantly cheaper to just commission an artist to paint a couple of images instead?

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
The brand is basically targeted at hipsters who aren't wine savvy and the label is meant to grab your attention.

I mean look at those labels, they would stick out like a sore thumb in any grocer's wine section. http://www.starkravingwines.com/wine

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
I think what you're trying to say is "Goon-targeted."

burzum karaoke
May 30, 2003

"Excuse me, which aisle are your steampunk vintages in? Namaste."

:barf:

raggedphoto
May 10, 2008

I'd like to shoot you

1st AD posted:

Fun fact, this shoot happened before the D800e was released. Now that my friend owns one, he never rents anything medium format.

I find that surprising, judging by his portfolio he shoots mostly fashion and the lack of a low pass filter on a D800e makes for horrible moire' issues. Perhaps you can remove some of it when outputting raws (I haven't played with one yet) but it seems like a big gamble that you will be able to remove all of it. I've had to dodge and burn moire' out of an image before and it is not fun.


Paragon8 posted:

the digi op doing the comps on the fly was super impressive. Whenever I assist post heavy photographers there's always an awkward "it'll look totally different finished" conversation.

I digi tech for a lot of our post intensive jobs, even create concepts on the fly with art directors while the shoot is going on. It can be extremely stressful to work things up as fast as you while trying to be creative and having a group of people standing behind you watching and directing. I never though that I could get completely exhausted from working at a computer before I became a retoucher.

Paragon8
Feb 19, 2007

raggedphoto posted:


I digi tech for a lot of our post intensive jobs, even create concepts on the fly with art directors while the shoot is going on. It can be extremely stressful to work things up as fast as you while trying to be creative and having a group of people standing behind you watching and directing. I never though that I could get completely exhausted from working at a computer before I became a retoucher.

Tell me about it, the last shoot I was on the client had like six people from two different teams so they were fighting over the concepts and crowded around the screen while I had to basically communicate with hand signals to see if the lighting was ok.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you
I've been playing around with Lightroom, it's great. I wish I would have done this sooner. Makes some stuff that I was doing in Photoshop soooo much easier.

Are there any good places I should be looking for tutorials? I've generally just been poking around http://photo.tutsplus.com/

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

I haven't tried this, but if anyone is on a real tight budget and wants to avoid wonky :filez: Lightroom/Apeture installs, give http://www.darktable.org/features/ a whirl and see if it works for you.

<edit> note there's currently no windows binaries, so you'll need to get busy with linux if you're not a mac user :o:

NoneMoreNegative fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Nov 21, 2012

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

triplexpac posted:

I've been playing around with Lightroom, it's great. I wish I would have done this sooner. Makes some stuff that I was doing in Photoshop soooo much easier.

Are there any good places I should be looking for tutorials? I've generally just been poking around http://photo.tutsplus.com/
Martin Evening's book is solid and probably worth the $29.

triplexpac
Mar 24, 2007

Suck it
Two tears in a bucket
And then another thing
I'm not the one they'll try their luck with
Hit hard like brass knuckles
See your face through the turnbuckle dude
I got no love for you

teethgrinder posted:

Martin Evening's book is solid and probably worth the $29.

What a compelling title! haha. I'll give it a look, thanks.

David Pratt
Apr 21, 2001

triplexpac posted:

I've been playing around with Lightroom, it's great. I wish I would have done this sooner. Makes some stuff that I was doing in Photoshop soooo much easier.

Are there any good places I should be looking for tutorials? I've generally just been poking around http://photo.tutsplus.com/

Good video tutorials from Adobe's Julianne Kost:

http://www.jkost.com/lightroom.html

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Jesus that link is solid gold.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

1st AD posted:

The brand is basically targeted at hipsters who aren't wine savvy and the label is meant to grab your attention.

I mean look at those labels, they would stick out like a sore thumb in any grocer's wine section. http://www.starkravingwines.com/wine

I like the photos and the processing work a lot, but this is probably the dumbest marketing strategy ever. There are already wines for hipsters who aren't wine savvy. They're called Franzia or whatever else will get you the most hosed up for the least amount of money. Standing out for the sake of standing out does not necessarily mean your product is going to be more desirable and it could actually have the obvious effect.

The reason there aren't a million products targeted at "hipsters" is because they're not a real demographic. It's basically just middle class white people between 15 and 30 who consider themselves individualists. The few companies that they seem to appreciate on any collective level are ones with incredibly transparent and bullshit anti-corporate attitudes (see Apple, American Apparel, Tom's Shoes, things like that).

If your friends wanted to target hipsters they should have mocked the pretentiousness of wine and called it "Just Good Cheap Wine" or something self-aware like that, not whatever cosplay steampunk poo poo they went with. About the only people I can see noticing the label and being enticed by it are people stopping to grab some wine to carry around in a deerskin flask at the ren faire or picking up some drinks for their D&D game later. I can't see this group carrying an entire business.

Still, sweet photos and thanks for sharing the video.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

mr. mephistopheles posted:

I like the photos and the processing work a lot, but this is probably the dumbest marketing strategy ever. There are already wines for hipsters who aren't wine savvy. They're called Franzia or whatever else will get you the most hosed up for the least amount of money. Standing out for the sake of standing out does not necessarily mean your product is going to be more desirable and it could actually have the obvious effect.

The reason there aren't a million products targeted at "hipsters" is because they're not a real demographic. It's basically just middle class white people between 15 and 30 who consider themselves individualists. The few companies that they seem to appreciate on any collective level are ones with incredibly transparent and bullshit anti-corporate attitudes (see Apple, American Apparel, Tom's Shoes, things like that).

If your friends wanted to target hipsters they should have mocked the pretentiousness of wine and called it "Just Good Cheap Wine" or something self-aware like that, not whatever cosplay steampunk poo poo they went with. About the only people I can see noticing the label and being enticed by it are people stopping to grab some wine to carry around in a deerskin flask at the ren faire or picking up some drinks for their D&D game later. I can't see this group carrying an entire business.

Still, sweet photos and thanks for sharing the video.

To clarify, the whole campaign was conceived of by an ad agency. And I only call it wine for hipsters because that's what it is, but they used meaningless buzzwords like "for the mad scientists among us" (i.e. "middle class white people who consider themselves individualists).

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.
Goddamit.

Went up into a tall building to take pictures of some other tall buildings, but the observation deck isn't open, it's all glassed-in. And even sticking my lens directly up against that glass, I got this kind of thing:



Other than resizing that's right out of the camera. Can anything be done about that flaring?

I took some shots at higher exposure to do exposure-blending with, and in those it's even more apparent and turns bright purple, no idea why I didn't see it in the viewfinder.

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Rubber lens hood mostly fixes this.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Would a polariser help there?

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

The problem with those is that tempered-glass (which most high-rise windows are made of) combines rather badly with polarizers.

Star War Sex Parrot
Oct 2, 2003



Is there any magic with content-aware fill or something like that to help me get rid of the bars I was shooting through at a pet adoption fair?

The vertical one is the only one that really bugs me in that shot. I suppose I could do stuff manually, but I'm wondering if there are suggested shortcuts.

I dumped them all here if you're curious.

Valdara
May 12, 2003

burn, pillage, ORGANIZE!

Star War Sex Parrot posted:



Is there any magic with content-aware fill or something like that to help me get rid of the bars I was shooting through at a pet adoption fair?

The vertical one is the only one that really bugs me in that shot. I suppose I could do stuff manually, but I'm wondering if there are suggested shortcuts.

I dumped them all here if you're curious.

Most people who want to adopt kitties are not professional photographers. I didn't even notice it until you said something, so while it might be glaringly obvious to you, and now I can't unsee it either, someone browsing a website looking for a new kitty will be struck by how cute the kitties are more than anything else.

That being said, I have no idea how to get rid of them in post.

365 Nog Hogger
Jan 19, 2008

by Shine
Just dodge it out.

TheLastManStanding
Jan 14, 2008
Mash Buttons!
To tell you the truth I wouldn't have noticed the vertical one if it wasn't for the horizontal one, so I guess the easy answer is either crop it out or just ignore it since it's not a big deal. Your other option is to fiddle with a curves layer and a gradient mask until it looks good, which, now that you've noticed the flaw, will be never.

goattrails
Nov 27, 2009

Ride the frog, baby!
The vertical one is the only one worth spending time on getting rid of. Just dodge it out, like mentioned earlier.

mr. mephistopheles
Dec 2, 2009

Star War Sex Parrot posted:



Is there any magic with content-aware fill or something like that to help me get rid of the bars I was shooting through at a pet adoption fair?

The vertical one is the only one that really bugs me in that shot. I suppose I could do stuff manually, but I'm wondering if there are suggested shortcuts.

I dumped them all here if you're curious.

This looks like it's a couple dramatic posting techniques away from being the album cover for a CD of popular songs recreated using various cat meows.

What I am saying is please do this.

(the cover not the album)

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Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009

Star War Sex Parrot posted:



Is there any magic with content-aware fill or something like that to help me get rid of the bars I was shooting through at a pet adoption fair?

The vertical one is the only one that really bugs me in that shot. I suppose I could do stuff manually, but I'm wondering if there are suggested shortcuts.

I dumped them all here if you're curious.

Images are super sharp and bokeh is nice, what's your setup? Canon 50mm?

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