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Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(

Desfore posted:

This is why I don't know why people don't like Dirk. He's basically Dave, just taken to a larger extreme, both in his cool-kid persona, and his fragile true self.

Dirk and Dave are about on equal levels with me.

:ssh:In that I generally prefer most of the current active cast to them

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MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

quote:

ARQUIUSPRITE: We both know you're never going to be happy under ordinary circumstances
ARQUIUSPRITE: You just do not have the right kind of think pan to sustain that emotion

This was really sad to me because it's pretty much exactly what my best friend once told me that her depression felt like. :smith:

The Deleter
May 22, 2010
Huh.

Okay then.

Arquiusprite continues to be amazing, though. "I think about them all the time while I fle% and it makes me smile." :allears:

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
Guess I was on the mark re: the Smiles and their inescapability.

Suaimhneas
Nov 19, 2005

That's how you get tinnitus

Goddamn I wish Topatoco's international shipping costs weren't so extortionate. I can't justify the cost of the Homestuck books, I sure as hell can't justify SB&HJ. Ludicrously overpriced fake-person signature or no. :sigh:

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


While this is an interesting turn for Dirk in terms of his control issues as well as Roxy by addressing her long-repressed (if poorly-concealed) feelings... well, when the sugar rush is over, isn't Dirk still gay? I'm guessing trickster Dirk is going to be willing to happily declare that if it would be easier for him to not be gay, or to be bi or whatever, in order to solve their problems then sure he can do that.

Once they snap out of it though he's probably going to go back to normal - I don't think Hussie would want to imply that Dirk growing out of his gayness is going to be part of his personal development, even if kissing Roxy was a step to giving up his control issues.

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
Is anyone else having the issue that they just literally cannot picture Trickster Dirk? Being that energetic and enthusiastic in any way is so un-Strider that it just will not coalesce in my mind.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Cleretic posted:

Is anyone else having the issue that they just literally cannot picture Trickster Dirk? Being that energetic and enthusiastic in any way is so un-Strider that it just will not coalesce in my mind.

I can picture him. He's shown here, on the right.

Interestingly, we have a chain going on here:

Calliope trickstered Jane by sending her the juju.
Jane trickstered Jake by kneeing him in the family jujuwels.
Jake trickstered Roxy with a pumpkin to the head.
Roxy trickstered Dirk with a drunben shmoochp.

Logically, Dirk should then somehow close the loop by being responsible for the Cals' jujus.

Nate RFB
Jan 17, 2005

Clapping Larry
There needs to be more love for "I'M TOO loving COOL FOR THIS!!!!!"

I like Dirk. He is very flawed, and I like that.

CidGregor
Sep 27, 2009

TG: if i were you i would just take that fucking devilbeast out behind the woodshed and blow its head off

Dolash posted:

While this is an interesting turn for Dirk in terms of his control issues as well as Roxy by addressing her long-repressed (if poorly-concealed) feelings... well, when the sugar rush is over, isn't Dirk still gay? I'm guessing trickster Dirk is going to be willing to happily declare that if it would be easier for him to not be gay, or to be bi or whatever, in order to solve their problems then sure he can do that.

Once they snap out of it though he's probably going to go back to normal - I don't think Hussie would want to imply that Dirk growing out of his gayness is going to be part of his personal development, even if kissing Roxy was a step to giving up his control issues.

Yeah I'm fully expecting Trickstered Dirk to have a line that goes something like "BOY IT SURE IS BETTER KISSING GIRLS AND NOT BEING GAY" that is about as unsettling as Roxy going "BOY BOOZE SURE IS AWESOME WHAT WAS I THINKING TRYING TO GO SOBER" to really drive home the point that Trickster Mode is not the happy-go-lucky perfect powerup it might have appeared to be.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Fister Roboto posted:

The original kids are going to get the paradox space equivalent of walking in on your parents having sex with your best friends' parents.

:C

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Bobulus posted:

b part 2) Since Gamzee is calmed down "forever" thanks to Karkat, would Trickster Gamzee be exactly the same, except unkillable?

Well, he's already unkillable... so... I'm guessing "no".

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
I loving love Dirk, I loving love ARquius, this update was loving great, too bad Dirk's katana could not save him but that was a price i was okay with paying for such a hilarious update.

So i think we're just about ready for the meteor to crash into the planet and pulp them all. Sound good?

e:

Admiral Goodenough posted:

This was really sad to me because it's pretty much exactly what my best friend once told me that her depression felt like. :smith:

Yeah that part hit kinda close to home and it's like it was channeling Achewood for a moment there.

And now i want to see a Homestuck/Achewood crossover.

Freak Futanari fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Jan 21, 2013

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Ablative posted:

Well, he's already unkillable... so... I'm guessing "no".

Well I'm mostly joking, but I was implying that his unkillable status in the future with Caliborn is due to being secretly still in Trickster mode. You just can't tell, because he's still calm.

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Dorroile posted:

I loving love Dirk, I loving love ARquius, this update was loving great, too bad Dirk's katana could not save him but that was a price i was okay with paying for such a hilarious update.

So i think we're just about ready for the meteor to crash into the planet and pulp them all. Sound good?

That won't work and you know it.


Also, something I just thought about : That fourth wall in Jake's pocket? It's small, right?

Well the one Jade and John are seeing on the other side of the Yard is the same size as the one they went through. Does that mean when they come out, they'll be tiny?

nerdbot
Mar 16, 2012

Ablative posted:

That won't work and you know it.


Also, something I just thought about : That fourth wall in Jake's pocket? It's small, right?

Well the one Jade and John are seeing on the other side of the Yard is the same size as the one they went through. Does that mean when they come out, they'll be tiny?

If so, Jade can always Space them back to normal size, naturally.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Some people have theorized/joked, that as a callback to this:



that when the ship comes flying out of the window at light speed, that we'd better hope that Jake isn't staring longingly into it again...

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Bobulus posted:

Some people have theorized/joked, that as a callback to this:



that when the ship comes flying out of the window at light speed, that we'd better hope that Jake isn't staring longingly into it again...

That raises another good point though: what happens if the Wall is in his sylladex when they go through it?

Do they get trapped in the sylladex? Do they get forced out of it in the same manner as anything else that doesn't fit?

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Ablative posted:

That raises another good point though: what happens if the Wall is in his sylladex when they go through it?

Do they get trapped in the sylladex? Do they get forced out of it in the same manner as anything else that doesn't fit?

Well, given that the wall is still too small to make the ship life-size when it comes out, they won't be forced out of it.

Indie Rocktopus
Feb 20, 2012

In the aeroplane
over the sea


Dorroile posted:

And now i want to see a Homestuck/Achewood crossover.

Dorroile I am so happy you posted that, because I'd completely given up hope on using this anywhere:

MY FAN FICTIONS posted:

GREATEST RAP BATTLES OF HISTORY: Strider vs. Smuckles

"whos this half-shaved pussy who got sort of stoned
youre from history, whiskers, and your getting dethroned
see pbs called me the internet’s ulysses
i drop page views and flames too on lame dudes who dis me
you call it achewood, make cookbooks like you bake good
but your wood aches cause you got no rear end or cash, just fake food
get out the pet door before I stomp on your tail
even if I’m home stuck – you’re the great outdoor fail"

"Who’s this anime Steve McQueen in bright red pajamas?
I’d beat you harder, boy, but I was distracted by your momma’s
choice rear end, so maybe you can hook up a fella?
Invite her for some crispy Stellas, see if anything develops?
See my fans like sophistication, that ages like wine:
best strip of the decade, greatest rhymes of all Time!
Your fans run to mommy with grey body paint,
givin’ them diaper rash - because it’s up in their taint!"

"uHHH, i'M tAVROS nITRAM, aND i’M HERE TO SAY,
wE PUBLISH, oN AVERAGE, fOUR PAGES A DAY,
yOU HAVE ONE HOT STRIP, eVERY TEN MONTHS, aVERAGE
iN TERMS OF CONSISTENCY, yOUR PRODUCTIVITY, iS DISASTROUS"

"i stop time, and drop rhymes across the star field
if i wanted to know what a cat eats id read garfield
i make two and a half mil in one month on kickstarter
id slip some singles to onstad, but he needs to strip harder"

"It’s not hard to get money from webcomic fans,
Even if your face looks like it’s written in Comic Sans!
Sorry if you can’t appreciate a modern masterpiece,
From the depths of the Volvo of Despair it’s Roast Beef:"

"So I got depression and I have visited hell
But dang your comic is basically both combined in html
This is a source of comfort to me when I’m all weepin’ on the floor
Even though I hate myself I still hate you more"

EDIT: I wrote that a while back on a lark, but it's not something I could use on my blog or whatever, because the venn diagram between my audience, Achewood readers and Homestuck fans is infinitesimal. So thank you for giving me an excuse to share it.
...I'll show myself out now.

Indie Rocktopus fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jan 22, 2013

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

Indie Rocktopus posted:

Dorroile I am so happy you posted that, because I'd completely given up hope on using this anywhere:


EDIT: I wrote that a while back on a lark, but it's not something I could use on my blog or whatever, because the venn diagram between my audience, Achewood readers and Homestuck fans is infinitesimal. So thank you for giving me an excuse to share it.
...I'll show myself out now.

That's pretty neat, actually!

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Indie Rocktopus posted:

Dorroile I am so happy you posted that, because I'd completely given up hope on using this anywhere:


EDIT: I wrote that a while back on a lark, but it's not something I could use on my blog or whatever, because the venn diagram between my audience, Achewood readers and Homestuck fans is infinitesimal. So thank you for giving me an excuse to share it.
...I'll show myself out now.

And Nitram with the assist!

(For the record, the average is closer to six per day, but it's close enough that it was still epic)

MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

Indie Rocktopus posted:

Dorroile I am so happy you posted that, because I'd completely given up hope on using this anywhere:


EDIT: I wrote that a while back on a lark, but it's not something I could use on my blog or whatever, because the venn diagram between my audience, Achewood readers and Homestuck fans is infinitesimal. So thank you for giving me an excuse to share it.
...I'll show myself out now.

:sbahj:


And stolen from tumblr:

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Admiral Goodenough posted:

:sbahj:


And stolen from tumblr:



Well, birds of a feather. (he, he)

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.

Bobulus posted:

edit: It seem to me that people are reading Dirk's reticence as arrogance. He seems like kind of a needy guy, to be honest. Lonely. I mean, he was perfectly willing to waste time drawing stupid pornography for Caliborn, just to have someone to talk to. And we how he kept leaving awkward pesterlog messages for Jake when they had a falling out. I think he's got sort of an inverted version of Dave's problem.

I've been thinking this for a while. It really tells you something about someone when they build a big bunch of robots and entire AI just to have someone to talk to. I guess that's why I've always been fine with Dirk, despite his competency and such, he was clearly way more of a hosed up mess than just about any other straight away, whereas a lot of the other character's flaws took a while to show up, I always felt his was fairly obvious from relatively early.

Incidentally, I think I'm looking forward more to the Dirk/Rose and Dave/Roxy meet ups than the direct pairs. Dirk always struck me as more like Rose than his little bro, irony or no.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Prison Warden posted:

I've been thinking this for a while. It really tells you something about someone when they build a big bunch of robots and entire AI just to have someone to talk to. I guess that's why I've always been fine with Dirk, despite his competency and such, he was clearly way more of a hosed up mess than just about any other straight away, whereas a lot of the other character's flaws took a while to show up, I always felt his was fairly obvious from relatively early.

Incidentally, I think I'm looking forward more to the Dirk/Rose and Dave/Roxy meet ups than the direct pairs. Dirk always struck me as more like Rose than his little bro, irony or no.

Whereas Dave/Roxy will surely offer us oedipal joke-fodder by the wagonload if previous trends hold. Although one Electra complex moment for Dave to get his revenge with might be funny too.

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

Prison Warden posted:

Incidentally, I think I'm looking forward more to the Dirk/Rose and Dave/Roxy meet ups than the direct pairs. Dirk always struck me as more like Rose than his little bro, irony or no.

That's definitely the case. Dave shares Roxy's flippancy and Rose inherited Dirk's wryness. Dave consciously imitates his bro and tries to be aloof, while Rose comes by it naturally.

H.P. Shivcraft
Mar 17, 2008

STAY UNRULY, YOU HEARTLESS MONSTERS!

nerdbot posted:

If so, Jade can always Space them back to normal size, naturally.

Quoting this just to tap into the discussion on tiny things that should not be tiny, because it occurred to me that I don't remember us ever learning why Dirk had a tiny Maplehoof. Is that a thing that was explained in passing and I missed it or can we expect more tiny shenanigans apart from deudly ships?

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood
Christ I had to get the SBAHJ book. 60 total with shipping, with unknown toll expenses. I'll probably end up paying 120$ in total :suicide:

Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

H.P. Shivcraft posted:

Quoting this just to tap into the discussion on tiny things that should not be tiny, because it occurred to me that I don't remember us ever learning why Dirk had a tiny Maplehoof. Is that a thing that was explained in passing and I missed it or can we expect more tiny shenanigans apart from deudly ships?

Never "explained", no. But I've got an answer that should suffice: It's the future.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
We still have no clear information as to what the pony's deal is. Maybe it's a tiny robot Dirk made in memory of his bro. Maybe B2 Dave only ate most of Maplehoof, leaving a tinier horse because that's how that works. Probably neither.

Rooreelooo
Sep 29, 2007

"Ask not what Spiral Mountain can do for you; ask what you can do for Spiral Mountain."
Maybe dirk perfected the art of the bonsai horse

Android Blues
Nov 22, 2008

Bobulus posted:

Some people have theorized/joked, that as a callback to this:



that when the ship comes flying out of the window at light speed, that we'd better hope that Jake isn't staring longingly into it again...

I really hope not! I like Jake. Maybe he'll be God Tier at that point and it'll just be a goofy pratfall-death.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:

We still have no clear information as to what the pony's deal is. Maybe it's a tiny robot Dirk made in memory of his bro. Maybe B2 Dave only ate most of Maplehoof, leaving a tinier horse because that's how that works. Probably neither.

Well, he knows his Bro had a horse. He's got a friend with an appearifyer and ecto-cloning facilities.

I just assumed that Tiny Maplehoof is a mutant teacup version of B2-Dave's Maplehoof.

Hamiltonian Bicycle
Apr 26, 2008

!
Probably, yeah.

Lord of Laughton
Nov 11, 2008

It's hard to say for certain
But I think I like it here.

Admiral Goodenough posted:

:sbahj:


And stolen from tumblr:



Dear god. This is it. We've hit the end of homestuck. What a strange way to go.

"end of story"

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
For the past few hours, i've been adding and removing the SBAHJ book from my cart. I am genuinely tormented by this choice. Hussie has destroyed me. He has looked me into a feedback loop of "No, this is stupid." and "Hell yeah it is", and now i just don't know what is happening in my life anymore.

And then I realize.

I have become the young man in the bedroom. It is me. I am Homestuck.

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

Dorroile posted:

For the past few hours, i've been adding and removing the SBAHJ book from my cart. I am genuinely tormented by this choice. Hussie has destroyed me. He has looked me into a feedback loop of "No, this is stupid." and "Hell yeah it is", and now i just don't know what is happening in my life anymore.

And then I realize.

I have become the young man in the bedroom. It is me. I am Homestuck.

You gotta do this man, you gotta make it hapen. Also it's pointless unless you get the Dave signature. Here's to wasting $100, bud :cheers:

ALEX TRILLTON
Sep 9, 2011

IF I'M EVER A DICK ON THE INTERNET, TELL PAULSEPHIROTH'S MOM

This didn't get enough love. I am the person who both likes Achewood and Homestuck and this is as beautiful as I'd imagine that rap battle to be.

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Ablative
Nov 9, 2012

Someone is getting this as an avatar. I don't know who, but it's gonna happen.

Dorroile posted:

For the past few hours, i've been adding and removing the SBAHJ book from my cart. I am genuinely tormented by this choice. Hussie has destroyed me. He has looked me into a feedback loop of "No, this is stupid." and "Hell yeah it is", and now i just don't know what is happening in my life anymore.

And then I realize.

I have become the young man in the bedroom. It is me. I am Homestuck.

Keep your computer close, stay in your server's good graces, don't prototype a loving puppet, and remember: we are all so proud of you.

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