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xzzy posted:That would be why B pillars are creeping so far forward. I sat in the newer GT once and my head stuck about 5 inches out of the upper door gap. I could shut the door by looking down, but then i would have to drive around staring at my crotch.
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I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3nmrTruSD0
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Feb 17, 2017 22:27
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That frontal crash test is 15-20kph faster than the top speed of that golf cart too.
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Feb 17, 2017 22:40
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now. The designer of that cart must really hate golfers
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Feb 17, 2017 22:47
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spog posted:The designer of that cart must really hate golfers Or the designer of that test really hates golf cart designers. If you could get one of those things going that fast, hitting something head on would be the least of your worries.
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Feb 17, 2017 22:56
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now.  My state (Ohio) passed a law that just went into effect making golf cars street legal on roads with speed limits of 35 MPH or less. They have to be titled/plated and pass a vehicle inspection, but anyone wanting to drive a golf cart on a public road should be forced to watch this video.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:01
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Sun city West in Arizona let's golf carts drive around. It's terrible.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:12
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They also let cyclists bicycle on roads. I wouldn't think being on the road in a golf cart is any more or less dangerous unless you're not in the mindset that you're more vulnerable than a full size car. So yeah, a golf cart will get hosed up if you hit it at 50mph, but you know what else does? cyclists, pedestrians.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:17
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Powershift posted:I wouldn't think being on the road in a golf cart is any more or less dangerous unless you're not in the mindset that you're more vulnerable than a full size car. I think you're giving people who would get their golf cart registered and drive it on a public road way too much credit here.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:20
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Geoj posted:I think you're giving people who would get their golf cart registered and drive it on a public road way too much credit here. yeah, but i'm also not too concerned about that kind of person becoming an organ donor.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:24
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Metal Geir Skogul posted:Sun city West in Arizona let's golf carts drive around. It's terrible. Indiana used to allow them and mopeds on the road. Now they're requiring driver's licences and insurance so all the people with DUIs who were skirting the law are now hosed.
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Feb 17, 2017 23:59
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Powershift posted:yeah, but i'm also not too concerned about that kind of person becoming an organ donor. lol if you think this kind of person is a donor of any kind (Well, maybe to their kid's private school or the ol' alma mater's football program, but organs? That might end up in the bodies of poor people?)
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now. This one is pretty bad too. I dig the camera on the side-impact ram as it swoops in for the kill. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v4B4OBLKsw
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Seat Safety Switch posted:This one is pretty bad too. I dig the camera on the side-impact ram as it swoops in for the kill. That head-on collision  I half-expected to see the dummy crashing through the floor-pan.
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So for 2017 the GM diesel trucks have a new larger DEF tank that holds 7 gal, 2016s held only 5 gal. I never noticed that all the publicity photos either showed only the gas version or only from the driver's side or else had running boards positioned at a certain angle because here is the DEF tank on a truck without the running boards guys  Guess there's nowhere else on that tiny truck/engine bay to put it. Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 06:58 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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I had a Nissan Qashqai this week for a hire car. Picked it up with just 34 miles on the clock. Dropped it off 1000 miles later well and truly run in. It was actually an OK car, and went OK for a little 1.5 diesel if you keep in 3rd and 4th. It handled too poorly to justify such stiff suspension, but I guess that's the trend nowadays. The terrible bit? This this thing cost £27,000. For a jacked up smallish hatchback. You can get a well specced Passat or similar for that much, with a proper sized engine, a proper sized boot and the same amount of spec, and it'll ride and handle much better. Oh great, it looks like a 4x4, well it costs as much as one, handles like one too, despite riding like a stiff hot hatch and being crap off road. Maybe you can get great deals on them, and maybe the lower spec models are better, I like that they are made in the UK, but this one was a POS considering the price. Edit, the steering managed to be numb but heavy, and required a poo poo load of turns manoeuvring around tight turns, but because it was kinda stiff you couldn't just palm it round. 
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Feb 18, 2017 11:21
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Theres a reason its name is suspiciously familiar to "Cash Cow"
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As a baseline, crossovers are stupid and rubbish. If you want a hatchback or estate car that's not much good off road, they already sell those, they're called hatchbacks and estate cars. If you're going to pay the various penalties of having the relevant accoutrements added to a vehicle, they need to pay their way and actually work.
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Feb 18, 2017 12:41
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I don't even mind crossovers that much, since a 2wd car with good ground clearance is actually useful to me. But for them to be worthwhile they still have to be priced in the same bracket as their car equivalent. I loved the much derided Fiesta based Ford Fusion. It was cost about the same as fiesta, had more space and was pretty capable off road for a car. It also didn't ride or handle badly. Unfortunately it looked like a gimpy old person car, instead of a 4x4 so only old giffers bought it.
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Throatwarbler posted:So for 2017 the GM diesel trucks have a new larger DEF tank that holds 7 gal, 2016s held only 5 gal. I never noticed that all the publicity photos either showed only the gas version or only from the driver's side or else had running boards positioned at a certain angle because here is the DEF tank on a truck without the running boards guys This is one of the most GM things I've ever loving seen.
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Feb 18, 2017 14:56
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Throatwarbler posted:So for 2017 the GM diesel trucks have a new larger DEF tank that holds 7 gal, 2016s held only 5 gal. I never noticed that all the publicity photos either showed only the gas version or only from the driver's side or else had running boards positioned at a certain angle because here is the DEF tank on a truck without the running boards guys Hm my buddy just bought a 17 duramax and I didn't even notice. I'll never un-see it now
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Nidhg00670000 posted:I'm so glad Euro Ncap is testing all kinds of poo poo now. There's so much random poo poo I want to see them attach to the catapult with a dummy in/on and then slam into the wall. A little red wagon and one of those motorized coolers would be great. This could be the next hydraulic press channel.
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Feb 18, 2017 19:46
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Throatwarbler posted:So for 2017 the GM diesel trucks have a new larger DEF tank that holds 7 gal, 2016s held only 5 gal. I never noticed that all the publicity photos either showed only the gas version or only from the driver's side or else had running boards positioned at a certain angle because here is the DEF tank on a truck without the running boards guys Holy poo poo. Was that seriously their only option? I find that very hard to believe. Jesus Christ. 
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It was their cheapest option  The filler for it is still under the hood. ford managed to make the filler accessible and put a bigger tank up in the frame next to a 48 gallon fuel tank, so maybe GM is just lazy. It's also worth noting everybody else in the industry e-coats their frames. GM still, after decades of it flaking off, frames rusting, and bending, waxes their frames, and does so very poorly.  A lot of owners complain about the wax flaking off all over their driveways, and the frames starting to rust on new trucks. If you're ever close to one, just reach into the wheel well and you can just scratch it off with your finger nail.
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InitialDave posted:As a baseline, crossovers are stupid and rubbish. If you want a hatchback or estate car that's not much good off road, they already sell those, they're called hatchbacks and estate cars. The problem here (US) is that thanks to crossovers, true wagons basically no longer exist.
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Powershift posted:It was their cheapest option RUST IS A SIGN THAT THE TRUCK IS MADE WITH SUPERIOR 'MERICAN SUBMARINE STEEL.
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Throatwarbler posted:So for 2017 the GM diesel trucks have a new larger DEF tank that holds 7 gal, 2016s held only 5 gal. I never noticed that all the publicity photos either showed only the gas version or only from the driver's side or else had running boards positioned at a certain angle because here is the DEF tank on a truck without the running boards guys 5 gallon mostly works since DEF comes in 2.5 gallon containers. You have to run it down until the dash warnings are dire (on a Ford) for it to take it all. 7 gallons you are going to have a half gallon left in the container to store or forget about, or toss out... DEF at the pump needs to be way more common. I have found a cardlock station that accepts regular credit/debit cards that has one and it was surprisingly satisfying not having to deal with the DEF boxes. But that station is an hour and half away from me...
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Can't you buy it in a 40l or 212l drum and just use a drum pump to keep the tank topped off? You're going to use all of it anyway, adblue is cheaper in bulk, doesn't have a use-by you'd worry about, and takes up not a lot of floor space. On the down side to get the drum home you'd have to use your truck for truck stuff, and I'm not sure that's the target market.
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Powershift posted:It's also worth noting everybody else in the industry e-coats their frames. GM still, after decades of it flaking off, frames rusting, and bending, waxes their frames, and does so very poorly. I was just under Slung's Silverado Classic and there is a remarkable lack of care also taken with proper drainage of crossmembers, not building steps into the frame to trap dirt, etc. The cab corners and door bottoms are bad enough, but you would think after several decades of making trucks they would know how to throw together a long-lasting frame. The frame paint itself appears to be sub-Rustoleum spraybomb grade, too.
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I think they keep it under the hood so it's harder to mistake DEF for fuel. Mixing the two in either tank is bad news, but yeah looks like poo poo.
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IPCRESS posted:Can't you buy it in a 40l or 212l drum and just use a drum pump to keep the tank topped off? You're going to use all of it anyway, adblue is cheaper in bulk, doesn't have a use-by you'd worry about, and takes up not a lot of floor space. Apparently it does have a use by according to a couple of our friendly dealer techs. At a certain point it turns and you have to pump the tank. Generally only seems to be an issue with idiots buying an F-350 diesel to haul kids around. 
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IPCRESS posted:Can't you buy it in a 40l or 212l drum and just use a drum pump to keep the tank topped off? You're going to use all of it anyway, adblue is cheaper in bulk, doesn't have a use-by you'd worry about, and takes up not a lot of floor space. Work truck... I have brought up the bulk container idea several times. No dice. It is cheaper at the pump. $3 a gallon vs $4.80($12 a box) a gallon for the box.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:Apparently it does have a use by according to a couple of our friendly dealer techs. At a certain point it turns and you have to pump the tank. Generally only seems to be an issue with idiots buying an F-350 diesel to haul kids around. It's amazing how fast the Rams in particular go to poo poo if you never tow with them, as well.
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it's cool how we have some brand new cars these days that you never have to put any fuels or fluids in ever, and some where you have to keep track of even more fluid levels than before.
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Petrol technology is ramping up in complexity with hybrids, diesel with EGR, DEF and I'm sure many more acronyms. Meanwhile electrics need diff fluid changing after 150k miles. I'd love to be able to afford something like a Tesla 3 just to avoid future maintenance bullshit *waits for firmware update before driving to work*
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They still have cooling systems, too.
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I still think that cooling systems you don't need to top up ever week are pretty cool (no pun intended)
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InitialDave posted:They still have cooling systems, too. Gonna see liquid nitrogen flushes on 3 second electric funny cars.
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InitialDave posted:They still have cooling systems, too. Good point, what's the schedule on your Renault?
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So, you know those Mustangs that get modded to look like cars out of the 30s? I found out who does that: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmer_(automobile) A regular at my work is going to buy one
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