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THE DOG HOUSE posted:edit: Lol my "3 day" Newegg shipping, while indeed 3 days, is just regular rear end fedex home delivery. 3 day shipping service level from Fedex can only be "Express" even if in this case it would be express saver and hardly any different than ground. Regardless, I imagine no matter what shipping you ordered you will all be getting your G1 1070 on Saturday unless you're really far from CA FedEx Home is the worst. I had a bunch of parts arriving from Newegg a couple weeks ago, and I was working from home that day. In the middle of the day I get a text notification saying that the package was not delivered because nobody was home to receive it. I look out my window and see the FedEx truck driving by. He never even got out of the drat truck.
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UntunedGuitar47 posted:gently caress all this poo poo and waiting for pre-orders and EVGA can't get their poo poo in Europe together and poo poo! After missing out on a Gainward GLH on tuesday, I saw that a store here in Germany had one Palit 1080 Super Jetstream (basically the same card as the Gainward) in stock and that fucker is on it's way to me and should be here tomorrow! Hah, I did almost the exact same thing (Strix -> Palit). Never had a Palit card before and reviews are pretty much impossible to find at this point. I found one for the 980Ti with what looks like a similar cooler and that reviewed well, so fingers crossed.
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CaptainSarcastic posted:I don't know - Vista was pretty bad. i literally never had one single problem with vista ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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wicka posted:i literally never had one single problem with vista ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Apparently too-frequent UAC dialog boxes are enough to drive people into fits of rage and give them PTSD. Vista was a huge step up from XP and was in many ways proto-7. As far as I can tell, 7 did for Vista what 10 did for 8; it fixed a few interface issues that bothered people and redeemed the OS in many people's eyes, but didn't actually make large under-the-hood changes. If we want to talk about travesties, let's all drink and discuss ME.
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Funnily enough I had no trouble with amd drivers for the last five years across three cards until my 280x actually started to die, but since getting a 970 a couple months ago I've been experiencing driver crashes intermittently. Sometimes it won't even be during a game, but while watching a video. One time the driver got stuck in a loop of crashing and restarting until I escaped the full screen twitch stream. Then I spent five minutes clicking the X button on the windows 10 notifications it spawned 
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macnbc posted:FedEx Home is the worst. I had a bunch of parts arriving from Newegg a couple weeks ago, and I was working from home that day. In the middle of the day I get a text notification saying that the package was not delivered because nobody was home to receive it. I look out my window and see the FedEx truck driving by. He never even got out of the drat truck. I've run into this more than once with FedEx deliveries, ends up one of three ways: - They walk up, barely knock and practically sprint back to the truck (caught more than one guy doing this) - They leave expensive things out in the open instead of delivering to the front office (I live in an apartment) - They drive by and don't bother to stop, then file a false "not home" report Sucks that choices are basically letting FedEx lie and gently caress up your shipment, or play UPS roulette and hope your stuff doesn't get mangled beyond recognition.
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Linx posted:Let's not forget that vista chewed up all the RAM it could get its grubby hands on isn't that because they started caching frequently used apps in memory? but the OS would give that memory back if anything actually needed it. and now they just hide that feature so it doesn't look like the memory is utilized.
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Peanut3141 posted:Apparently too-frequent UAC dialog boxes are enough to drive people into fits of rage and give them PTSD. Vista was a huge step up from XP and was in many ways proto-7. As far as I can tell, 7 did for Vista what 10 did for 8; it fixed a few interface issues that bothered people and redeemed the OS in many people's eyes, but didn't actually make large under-the-hood changes. The only big bummer I had with Vista, was that it didn't allow ATI and Nvidia GPU's at the same time so doing the 4870X2+9800GT for Physx was tricky. That and the only thing it did do that was a bit wonky was forgetting or changing my folder layouts (from like default to Music, with no music files to be seen) at random time. Outside of that, with >1G ram it was usable, and with 2+ it ran great. XP felt literally archaic going back to it on all the systems I had to work on back then. Hell I had Vista running on one of those early Acer Netbooks with the single core Atom and 1.5G of ram. Outside of the HDD being slow it runs perfectly fine for web browsing that my dad used it for, for years. Now it is his Motorcycle tuner machine since we got him a better Asus Ultrabook. "ME" on the other hand, was a hell of a lot faster than 98, right up until it decided it didn't want to boot up normally anymore and just poo poo the bed randomly. 
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wicka posted:isn't that because they started caching frequently used apps in memory? but the OS would give that memory back if anything actually needed it. and now they just hide that feature so it doesn't look like the memory is utilized. Ding, ding, ding, winner! This is the same reason that if you do top on a Linux system, you'll frequently see a few GB in use, less than a GB "free", but everything else committed to read cache. That cache will be dumped immediately if a program requests it, but until then read cache for the win. Edit: EdEddnEddy posted:"ME" on the other hand, was a hell of a lot faster than 98, right up until it decided it didn't want to boot up normally anymore and just poo poo the bed randomly. Yep, this is the ME I grew to hate. I'm guessing it had something to do with them wanting to make it based off NT, but switching to the 9x codebase at some late point. Peanut3141 fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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EdEddnEddy posted:Outside of that, with >1G ram it was usable, and with 2+ it ran great. XP felt literally archaic going back to it on all the systems I had to work on back then. i upgraded to vista shortly after launch, most of my friends stuck with XP until 7, every time i had to use a PC that wasn't mine it felt like i was on windows 98
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I was on ME when XP dropped, and I did a dual boot of both. ME was still my OS of choice (for the time) but XP, then Felt futuristic and so advanced an shiny. The move to the NT code base took some time to get ironed out, but the stability was sure a godsend. It was unfortunate though how XP started out so blazingly fast, and how bloated it ended up feeling later after SP2 and 3 (Even though they were completely necessary and did add good features). But once Vista dropped, it was amazing the change on how much better working with a PC could be. Sure it had some quirks, but as a system builder, you know how nice it is to have just a folder of your drivers, and when you go to install them and you only have to pick the folder where they all are extracted to, and it would install the correct one every time as it searched Subfolders on its own??? Freaking time saver in the days before SSD's. Nothing ever made me long for XP. It was the little things, and Vista Ultimate included the Kitchen Sink back then, until 7 came and polished the faucet and such later on.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:I've run into this more than once with FedEx deliveries, ends up one of three ways: Do you live in union states where those employees don't have to give a poo poo because it's impossible to get fired or something LMAO. Never really had an issue with fedex or UPS in Arizona.
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wicka posted:isn't that because they started caching frequently used apps in memory? but the OS would give that memory back if anything actually needed it. and now they just hide that feature so it doesn't look like the memory is utilized. There's also the fact that all the VRAM allocated for Aero rendering was also mirrored in RAM, so the more windows you had open, the more your system RAM allocation shot up in line with VRAM usage. That was solved in 7. So yes, Vista did piss away RAM. It wasn't imaginary, and it wasn't only caching useful data, as some want you to believe now. 7 is genuinely slimmer than Vista. HalloKitty fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Vista was my favourite OS until 7. I still regret upgrading to 10.
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What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast.
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Taima posted:What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast. no clue, it's 8 with all the glaring dumbness fixed. huge improvement over 7.
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Taima posted:What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast. I wouldn't have a significant problem with it if the start menu items didn't all expire on me and if the search function was capable of finding things when I searched for their filenames.
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Taima posted:What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast.  are the only people with any issues with it.Seriously, I have 200 people in the office using it, maybe 50 left to upgrade, and since I pre-install Classic Shell, on both Windows 8 and 10, literally no one can guess correctly as to which they are on. Hieronymous Alloy posted:I wouldn't have a significant problem with it if the start menu items didn't all expire on me and if the search function was capable of finding things when I searched for their filenames. This should be a sticky somewhere. Install Classic Shell from Ninite.com then install "Everything" search from here: https://www.voidtools.com/ Presto, both your start menu and search are even better than they were in XP/7 Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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I guess I forgot I had one other driver issue with ATI cards but it was with the radeon 5650 mobility and ATI's first attempt at switchable graphics on a 1st gen HP laptop (envy 14). If the original graphics drivers are installed you can't update to later ones you just get a black screen and the display adapter never recovers. If you manage to half install them and force cancel the installation you can get past that. It was really stupid. Also if the graphics drivers are installed the computer spends 20 seconds on boot hanging/doing some checks or something so even with a ssd it takes 40-50 seconds to boot. It was probably just lovely/1st generation hardware issues more than driver issues.
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EdEddnEddy posted:I was on ME when XP dropped, and I did a dual boot of both. ME was still my OS of choice (for the time) but XP, then Felt futuristic and so advanced an shiny. ME dropped in my Sophomore year in high school, and I had a dual boot of 98SE and Windows 2000 Professional - and ended up using the latter more. I must have converted about 100 friends' and friends-of-friends' brand new computers back to 98SE that year just by word-of-mouth. Didn't mind doing it for girls, but holy poo poo, never do unofficial IT on a college-age guy's computer. The amount of blackmail-grade porn they didn't even hide in directories... 
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Zero VGS posted:
To be fair, a lot of problems seem to revolve around the start menu, so you can hardly say you're really using 10 when you're entirely bypassing that feature with a mod.
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Zero VGS posted:
I prefer the interface of 8.1 and it has a functioning search box
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HalloKitty posted:To be fair, a lot of problems seem to revolve around the start menu, so you can hardly say you're really using 10 when you're entirely bypassing that feature with a mod. It takes 10 seconds to install it, it is free and I have it deployed to an entire organization. To be fair, just install the loving thing and quit whining  PerrineClostermann posted:I prefer the interface of 8.1 and it has a functioning search box Again, install Everything, the search is even better than 8.1 Look, I don't care if anyone installs W10 or not and there's a whole thread for it. But the more people get on it the more we'll see devs push towards DX12, and that means more FPS for me. Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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Taima posted:What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast. Same problem as 8, I get irrationally angry when I have to use a touch gui on my non touch desktop computer
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Here you go guys, literally one click to get both Classic Shell and Everything Search installed, works on Windows 8/10, you can thank me later: https://ninite.com/classicstart-everything/ninite.exe
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VostokProgram posted:Funnily enough I had no trouble with amd drivers for the last five years across three cards until my 280x actually started to die, but since getting a 970 a couple months ago I've been experiencing driver crashes intermittently. Sometimes it won't even be during a game, but while watching a video. These are indeed pretty classic bad driver issues, one of the few commonly fixed symptoms by using DDU though if you haven't yet.
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Taima posted:What exactly do people dislike about Windows 10? I'm not sure if I've ever had a bad experience with it, ever. And it's quite fast. I'm deliberately trying to avoid the Windows Store and services integration and it still bugs me about things I don't care about. Some bad ideas from Windows 8 are hanging around, most of which don't effect me but the less useful start menu and system settings split between two places arbitrarily are both problems. That said, it's faster than Windows 7 on similar hardware and it's not like W7 wasn't full of obnoxious poo poo. I don't expect that 7 will be able to get the most out of new hardware in the future, as well. It's been five years since the last service pack, it's time to upgrade.
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Zero VGS posted:Here you go guys, literally one click to get both Classic Shell and Everything Search installed, works on Windows 8/10, you can thank me later: https://ninite.com/classicstart-everything/ninite.exe you people are awesome people, thanks
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Anyway, is there any particular one of the various aftermarket GTx 1070's that people would recommend over any other, or are they all basically the same at this point?
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Twerk from Home posted:Thanks for suggesting I look at it, this is some amazing stuff: https://de45xmedrsdbp.cloudfront.net/Resources/files/TemporalAA_small-59732822.pdf ooo, thanks for this. I feel like I have a bit of information overload right now with all the AA techniques available.
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Perplx posted:Same problem as 8, I get irrationally angry when I have to use a touch gui on my non touch desktop computer you should upgrade to windows 10 instead of whatever back alley OS you installed that still has a touch-based interface
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wicka posted:isn't that because they started caching frequently used apps in memory? but the OS would give that memory back if anything actually needed it. and now they just hide that feature so it doesn't look like the memory is utilized. Nah, still shows as cached:  There's a tiny tiny strip at the end that actually says "free memory". They just changed the "cached" part to a white bar, and that fixed that problem in most people's eyes That said, as people have pointed out, vista did crunch through ram for other reasons too. I installed vista cause I had 8 gigs of ram and xp64 sucked and it worked great, but 8 gigs was a shitton during that time. On a machine with 1 or even 2GB, it was an absolute shitshow, while XP ran fine. 7 is much much better on limited hardware. Hieronymous Alloy posted:Anyway, is there any particular one of the various aftermarket GTx 1070's that people would recommend over any other, or are they all basically the same at this point? There's minor differences between the manufacturers each generation, but we dont't really know them yet, so... Get whatever if you need now or don't care about a % or 2 here or there, otherwise wait for board benchmarks.
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Holyshoot posted:Do you live in union states where those employees don't have to give a poo poo because it's impossible to get fired or something LMAO. Never really had an issue with fedex or UPS in Arizona. Sounds to me like the drivers are creating more work for themselves on purpose rather than not caring. Do they get paid per hour with a set number of packages and if too efficient, then finish early and get paid less? On topic, I'm really looking forward to more info about RX480. My current system was built in 2008 (with a more recent GPU update). I've read some people ITT dismiss the price/performance ratio thing but, with the current available options, both companies have targeted different markets with Nvidia being cost prohibitive for me and AMD giving me enough performance.
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Another GIGABYTE card on the way. https://twitter.com/GIGABYTEUSA/status/743561390808391680 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871
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gently caress Newegg and their ridiculous setup where *somehow, for no reason* they get 90% of the card stock... funny how that works...
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GPU Megathread - who is driving? omg amd/nvidia is driving?! how can that be?
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GPU Megathread - Drunk drivers and crashesTimeWaster posted:Sounds to me like the drivers are creating more work for themselves on purpose rather than not caring. Do they get paid per hour with a set number of packages and if too efficient, then finish early and get paid less? Yeah, they're talking from the point of view of people who want to blow a fat wad of cash on their GPU, so it's less exciting and also some of the rumors are seriously discouraging (and a lot aren't), so the depression prone are having fun with that too. It's going to be a great option for the people who aren't wildly overrepresented in this thread who buy the majority of cards unless something's seriously wrong. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 23:33 on Jun 16, 2016 |
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wicka posted:you should upgrade to windows 10 instead of whatever back alley OS you installed that still has a touch-based interface I specifically mean the new settings that show 9 huge icons when the old control panel could show 40+ items 
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