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I basically ignored the spark all game but I'll try levelling one to see how it goes. I have a feeling that at tier 3 equipment and chosen gear it will not be so great. E: poo poo, the missing chosen for the Android faction should just be Julian.
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SulphagneSocialist posted:Reading the thread I feel like I've gotten pretty bad RNG with resistance orders. Am I right? I've gotten a few decent ones but most of my orders and continent bonuses have sucked this game.
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Sep 8, 2017 23:59
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wuffles posted:You can run out of explosives. You have infinite ammo. I can't imagine doing a run without shredder. AP rounds take up an inventory slot, I'll use them on a sniper, maybe.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:00
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Cream-of-Plenty posted:Holy crap it took me way too long to realize you weren't talking about Dwight Schrute. My xcom 2 troops are all named after office characters. Last time I beat the avatars I think I had Jim "Big Tuna" Halpert (specialist) Dwight "Grifandor" Shrute (assault) Michael "Boss" Scott (psi) Holly "midnight (liked nickname the game gave her kept it)" Flax (psi) Kevin "Scrantonicity" Malone (Heavy) Spark "Computron" 001 So yeah I'm pretty much a crazy person. Read on for more! I hope that the bonding mechanic will make this more fun (haven't gotten it yet, unwashed console user, but it'll probably cause wired, nonsensical things to happen like Michale and Toby becoming best buds. Yech. Also I need to figure out who from the show should I name the skirmishes I get after. Mose?
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Sep 9, 2017 00:04
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I got a timers don't countdown until concealment breaks resistance order in my first set and just assumed everyone did and that was a clever way to bring in that mod.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:08
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Sparks take so freaking long to repair though, and the infirmary doesn't help with them. I had one get gravely wounded and spend the next 20 days being repaired. Not conducive to levelling them up. I suppose you can just try to get them really early, but.... they cost an awful lot in the Proving Grounds.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:15
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If you get Bulwark and Repair you can send one out in bad shape and just bring it up to good status during the first few turns. Granted, Repair is pretty far in and competes with another good skill, and you probably still want to find a scope so it can kill reliably.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:21
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The Metal over flesh mod is real nice for making Sparks more useful without being OP.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:36
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What was so bad about Sparks prior to WotC? I never played the DLC, just the base game but it sounds like they were not good.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:47
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Gadzuko posted:What was so bad about Sparks prior to WotC? I never played the DLC, just the base game but it sounds like they were not good. They started out pretty strong, but they didn't escalate well. Eventually your regular dudes outclassed them in every way that mattered and then you just stuck 'em in a closet for the rest of the game.
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Sep 9, 2017 00:53
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Apparently you couldn't slap a weapon mod on Sparks.
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Gadzuko posted:What was so bad about Sparks prior to WotC? I never played the DLC, just the base game but it sounds like they were not good. They couldn't hit anything and the punch was weak and sad.
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Sep 9, 2017 01:00
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SPARKs are insanely good on-point after breaking concealment, moreso once you get the skill that's a 33% chance of them taking a reaction shot on enemies during your turn. I had times where I marched mine forward, discover a pod, and instantly obliterate each target with reaction shots. But yeah, combined with other utility like Overdrive, Bulwark, Bombard, Shredstorm cannons, the fact that they never get tired, etc. I feel like they're very good and worth the resources.
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Shumagorath posted:On the flip side for SPARKs: I rarely take multiple shots from Overdrive rather than move -> plasma beam -> cleanup shot, and I can't take cover. Both make Bulwark the clear winner, especially when their melee attack is so much wimpier than EW MECs and half my Rangers. It used to blow, in part because of their limited ammo and aim. Overdrive is much better now and I frequently get 2-3 shots off per overdrive. The punch is "ok" and best to be thought of as a repositioning tool to use during overdrive that also does damage. Rainmaker is typically just straight up better, especially because it makes that inevitable first plasma lance worth a drat.
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Is there a good mod to make Heavy weapons upgradeable to their Powered versions? I have two Shredder guns that shouldn't go to waste by RNG.
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Are sparks the large robos the dlc is based on or the little small ones?
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Holy loving poo poo.  I just pulled off the most harrowing, crazy and badass mission I've ever experienced. Supply Raid (the regular variant, not the marking crates ones) with the Surgical" SitRep. Which means 3 vs 11. Oh, and high-tier enemies including a Gatekeeper, while I'm still mostly on mag weapons, with only regular assualt rifles upgraded to plasma. So, Major-rank Dragunova, Mox (my only Colonel and bonded with Dragunova) and a Paladin/Major level SPARK go out and accept the challenge. That entire missions was just "Why Reapers are loving ludicrous" in a nutshell. So I meet the first pod with Dragunova scouting ahead: A Codex and two Mutons. Dragunova wipes it out entirely via Remote Start. A few supply crates go up, but eh, that's the price of doing things. Then I move up for a few turns and all three remaining pods are in the same rough area, patrolling one of these overgrown transformer stations next to the street. Mox and the Spark sit themselves behind cover in an elevated position. The enemies are one pod with an elite Officer, an elite Purifier and a Heavy Mec, the second with an elite Trooper and heavy Mec and the third with the Gatekeeper and two Mutons. The Gatekeeper is within 2 tiles of another truck, the Mutons aren't; that pod is stationary. Dragunova puts a Claymore so it hits all three of the stationary pod, and will be triggered by the truck, then Remote Starts said truck. Mutons down to 3 health and the Gatekeeper takes a decent beating. Then she wipes out the Mutons, remaining hidden via Silent Killer over the next two turns. This somehow causes the Gatekeeper to freak out and fire off his Gateway, hitting the Heavy Mec and Trooper and weakening both. The turn after that, Dragunova puts her second Claymore on the Officer/Purifier/Mec pod. The SPARK fires up Overdrive, then drops a Bombard on those three, triggering the Claymore. Then he murders the Purifier via a Hunter Protocol reaction shot. Dragunova kills off the Mec. The Spark moves into position and nukes the other Mec and the Trooper with his Shredder Gun. Mox pops Wrath on the Officer and stuns him, grapples back into cover and then activates Teamwork to grant his last action to Dragunova, who pops Banish and blasts the Gatekeeper to smithereens. And then next turn Mox unceremoniously walked up to the stunned Officer and executed the poor fucker. Didn't even have to use the Mimic Beacon I had brought as an "Oh poo poo!" contingency. I... I never had a mission go like clockwork this hard.
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Sep 9, 2017 01:29
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Donnerberg posted:It's like the avenger attack made by someone who really wanted you to lose it. Its easier than the regular Avenger Defense. There are more enemies but you have a ridiculously massive squad to deal with them all. Darkrenown posted:The Metal over flesh mod is real nice for making Sparks more useful without being OP. That mod makes them insanely OP.
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Sep 9, 2017 02:03
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Internet Kraken posted:Its easier than the regular Avenger Defense. There are more enemies but you have a ridiculously massive squad to deal with them all.
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veni veni veni posted:Heavy mecs can suck a dick. A lot of the late game stuff can suck a dick. I've never enjoyed late game XCOM or XCOM2 I wonder what a good designer pow-wow could come up with as a way to make it more fun. I think it's a mix between everything you have being dialed up to 11, so everything the aliens have is dialed up to obnoxious levels to compensate - mixed with the fact that you run out of tech to upgrade so your decisions don't matter as much
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Lima posted:Yeah sparks are extremely good now compared to before. Ironically though, they're the opposite of expendable because while they're extremely good they're also hideously expensive 
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So are those pick up the boxes supply raids supposed to give you no alloys? Cause I got one of those instead of a regular raid and as a result I didn't have enough alloys to make predator armor. And then my entire team wiped to the upgraded assassin because she was KOing everyone with her sword swipes. Kind of pissed about that. EDIT: Also is the assassin supposed to regen HP everytime she uses vanishing wind? Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Sep 9, 2017 |
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I played the hell out of XCOM:EU, and have done several playthroughs of XCOM 2, and I can safely say that of all the times I've played this game, this run where I'm cheating my rear end off with console commands is the most pure fun I've had in XCOM. Completely trivializing the meta, having competent and well equipped soldiers, and tons of psy-operatives early is more satisfying than any nail biting sniper shot in the nick of time after everyone failed their 90% shot checks. No dead soldiers, no shortages, and best of all, still getting achievements just makes it feel like a legitimate tool to get back at this stupid rear end in a top hat game that I love.
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Sep 9, 2017 02:58
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Lima posted:The stars have aligned. 
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Internet Kraken posted:So are those pick up the boxes supply raids supposed to give you no alloys? Cause I got one of those instead of a regular raid and as a result I didn't have enough alloys to make predator armor. And then my entire team wiped to the upgraded assassin because she was KOing everyone with her sword swipes. Pretty sure every box has something in it. So if you don't pick up any of the alloys boxes, no alloys for you.
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I just took down my first chosen for good. The assassin never had a loving chance despite me literally being so dumb I accidentally only took 5 soldiers instead of the 6 I could (and I'm so tired I forgot I could even take 6 so I didn't reload). I used my reaper to scout the entire way to the ascension platform. My whole team got banged up on the first pod (bugs) because they're a bunch of fuckups and missed all their shots, but after expending all my heals everyone was more or less at full again. My Reaper literally soloed 2 entire pods through use of remote start, her claymore, sting, and not being revealed by killshots. I then had my team join her after running roughshod over another pod and sneaking around 2 more. 2 Bugs on entering the ascension chamber, they went away quickly. Triggered the assassin appearing. I didn't know you couldn't immediately shoot their coffin so I ran my ranger up to it and conveniently revealed the assassin, who immediately took two shotgun blasts to the face and went right the gently caress back in her box. I ignored all 3 spawns that came in (Archon, Berserker, Codex) and was able to destroy the box with 4 soldiers. My Skirmisher + dragon rounds + lucky rolls one-rounded the archon. The assassin thankfully stood pretty close after being revealed with 12 health left. Next round I finished off the assassin with another point-blank shotgun blast to the face. I guess the other aliens just give up because you instantly win the mission. Very satisfying encounter contrasted against the normally lame final XCOM2 encounter. This expansion owns.
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Jabor posted:Pretty sure every box has something in it. So if you don't pick up any of the alloys boxes, no alloys for you. I got some boxes though, are you saying the boxes randomly contain supplies or alloys? That sucks.
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I like how the Hunter has a line wondering what he'd even do with Earth if the Elders give it to him. The Assassin doesn't seem to really care either beyond loving the other two out of it. The Warlock probably wants everyone to worship the Elders.
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Gadzuko posted:I really like Sparks. Overdrive is one of the most clutch abilities in the game and having a soldier that doesn't get tired and can be deployed when injured really helps a lot with your squad management. Having at least one Spark is a good thing IMO. I didn't say I didn't like them, but I'm definitely in the camp that says you need at least two to justify the expense of upgrading their gear. Getting one from the mission and building one yourself isn't so bad, but building two is fairly prohibitive.
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So, my assassin is weak to explosives. She took cover behind a thing up on a roof. I decided I would blow the floor out from under her with my Grenadier, send her down a floor or two. Crit Plasma grenade. Insta-dead. That was wonderful to witness.
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 Appropriate name for nearly losing your best sniper and psyker... or something else entirely. Never send anyone on covert ops without Spider / Wraith suits. Vengarr posted:I didn't say I didn't like them, but I'm definitely in the camp that says you need at least two to justify the expense of upgrading their gear. Getting one from the mission and building one yourself isn't so bad, but building two is fairly prohibitive.
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Okay Lost ignoring aliens in their attack range to dash at your troops is loving stupid. A sectoid should not be able to sit in the middle of a zombie swarm and mind control me. EDIT: And then my game crashes and when I reload all my progress in that mission is gone. I'm back on the geoscape before the mission despite this being an Ironman campaign  On one hand that's a waste of an hour but on the other it means I won't code black because I missed the 88% sword slash on the zombie king sectoid. Internet Kraken fucked around with this message at 06:08 on Sep 9, 2017 |
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Sep 9, 2017 06:04
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I can't do the avatar autopsy. It says all other shadow projects must be completed, but they have been. Is there something I'm missing?
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Taffer posted:I can't do the avatar autopsy. It says all other shadow projects must be completed, but they have been. Is there something I'm missing? Do you have literally any other objectives at all you have not done yet?
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Sep 9, 2017 06:35
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Essentially, you need to do all the other shadow projects, even the ones unlocked by other objectives that you can't see yet.
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Sep 9, 2017 06:53
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BlazetheInferno posted:Do you have literally any other objectives at all you have not done yet? Yep. Didn't realize that would block it, thanks.
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Sep 9, 2017 06:55
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I just beat the base game on ironman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPvmIxu-LSA
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Do breakthroughs not speed up based on how many scientists you have? Are they always a static amount of time?
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Looks that way. I think they're also independent of stuff like the Reaper weapons research bonus and things like that.
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Vengarr posted:I didn't say I didn't like them, but I'm definitely in the camp that says you need at least two to justify the expense of upgrading their gear. Getting one from the mission and building one yourself isn't so bad, but building two is fairly prohibitive. I just upgrade the weapon, which is cheap enough. Never bothered with the armor.
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