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davebo posted:drat, I was really hoping I'd like this car but that infotainment panel, blech. It looks like they ripped the interior off wholesale from Audi (which makes sense, considering they stole their designer). I ain't mad at it.
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davebo posted:drat, I was really hoping I'd like this car but that infotainment panel, blech. Are you new to the 2017 auto world? Every manufacturer has these tablet-krazy-glued-to-the-dash looking pieces of poo poo, from Kia all the way up to a Maybach. It's what the focus groups wanted, bless their hearts.
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Jan 8, 2017 20:41
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^^^ I'm not a fan of the tablet thing either but they're even in the new miata, so don't throw stones etc Pryor on Fire posted:This might have made sense in 2012? when GoPro reached peak hype, hardly ever see them at all anymore. Seems like they'd make a lovely dashcam. Or is the mount for pointing the camera in so you can narrate your extreme youtube lifestyle? I guess that makes more sense.
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Jan 8, 2017 20:47
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How hard is the trim on them to pop off to run a wire up and under the headliner through the A pillar?
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Jan 8, 2017 20:50
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davebo posted:drat, I was really hoping I'd like this car but that infotainment panel, blech. Round air vents always remind me of pontiacs
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Christobevii3 posted:Round air vents always remind me of pontiacs RIP in peace, Pontiac; gone 2 soon.
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Jan 8, 2017 21:04
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As long as you're not expected to lean in and touch it to do most functions the eye-level tablet-ish screen is the safest way to have a screen in a car, and since everything's required to have a rearview camera soon fighting screens in general is a lost cause. If it doesn't have some kind of control knob like BMW/Mazda do putting it up there I guess is marginally safer than having to move your eye level over and down from the road to do things, but all touchscreens in cars should be disabled when the car is moving already.
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Jan 8, 2017 21:19
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Oh I love screens in a car, I just want it integrated with the dash design better than a tablet that looks glued to the dash. I guess it really is hard to do ergonomic design without looking ridiculous or being unsafe.
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Jan 8, 2017 21:22
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Michael Scott posted:Oh I love screens in a car, I just want it integrated with the dash design better than a tablet that looks glued to the dash. I guess it really is hard to do ergonomic design without looking ridiculous or being unsafe. They got it right in the G90, which ripped it from the latest S class. I hate the ones where it looks like a tablet stuck on top, which is de rigeur these days sadly.
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Jan 8, 2017 21:23
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What's wrong with the rear-view camera display in the mirror like my Mustang has? That way it doesn't foul up the interior with a giant useless touchscreen.
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Michael Scott posted:Are you new to the 2017 auto world? Every manufacturer has these tablet-krazy-glued-to-the-dash looking pieces of poo poo, from Kia all the way up to a Maybach. It's what the focus groups wanted, bless their hearts. I dunno, I've certainly seen them in I think Mazdas and Mercedes but it wasn't my understanding that was just universal design now. It's not in the current Kia Optima so that 's sort of what I was expecting from the GT, a RWD slightly nicer Optima, which it certainly does look like on the outside.
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PT6A posted:What's wrong with the rear-view camera display in the mirror like my Mustang has? That way it doesn't foul up the interior with a giant useless touchscreen. Because those useless touch screens are actually useful way beyond just being the backup camera. Things like CarPlay and android auto integration have made them a very nice thing to have in the car.
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kill me now posted:Its just called the GT. The Stinger GT was a 2+2 sports car concept. Different cars Seems it's called the Stinger after all; perhaps with GT as a trim level. RWD or AWD, 255hp 4-pot or 365 V6. I'm expecting Canada to be AWD only. e: After reading the info Stinger is the 4-pot, Stinger GT is the V6. Wistful of Dollars fucked around with this message at 02:39 on Jan 9, 2017 |
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Jan 9, 2017 02:33
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I think it's funny because everybody who owns an optima debadges it so nobody knows they're driving a kia. Stinger owners won't be able to debadge theirs, or people will think they're driving an optima.
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Jan 9, 2017 02:40
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To the surprise of no one, there's no mention of curb weight.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:To the surprise of no one, there's no mention of curb weight. I'm gonna bet it won't matter because it'll be 3 series money for a kia badge.
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Jan 9, 2017 02:45
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7 series weight for 3 series money
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Wistful of Dollars posted:To the surprise of no one, there's no mention of curb weight. It's a V6 twin turbo awd grand touring sedan that is closer to a 5 series than a 3 series in size (190.2" for the Stinger compared to 182.5" and 193.4" respectively) it's not going to be super light. That said Kia is usually pretty reasonable when it comes to curb weight (top end Optima is about 200lbs lighter than a loaded fusion)
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Jan 9, 2017 03:14
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We'll have to see how close in weight it is to the G80 :v
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Wistful of Dollars posted:We'll have to see how close in weight it is to the G80 :v Probably not that close, the G80 is more than half a foot longer and a bit wider.
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The first thing I thought of when I saw the Kia Stinger GT was the new Audi S5 Sportback. It's AWD with a 3.0L V6 putting out 354 HP and 369 lb-ft of torque. It's 3" shorter than the Stinger GT at 187.1" in length with a 111.2" wheelbase.  
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Wistful of Dollars posted:We'll have to see how close in weight it is to the G80 :v The Kia GT is I think supposed to platform share with the upcoming G70, not the G80 which is the old Genesis. The Kia GT itself is probably benchmarked on the A5
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PCOS Bill posted:How hard is the trim on them to pop off to run a wire up and under the headliner through the A pillar? About as hard as sticking a GoPro mount pad to the glass, which is why they should have done that to seal the deal.
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Jan 9, 2017 05:31
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Officially official: Us Ranger in 2019 bronco in 2020 as a global vehicle. Will be body on frame.
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Also, supposedly the new 550xi does sub-4 second 0-60. Oh, and the new Grand Cherokee will use the RWD Alfa Romeo platform. Presumably this is for increased reliability.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Oh, and the new Grand Cherokee will use the RWD Alfa Romeo platform. Presumably this is for increased reliability. 
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Powershift posted:Officially official: Everyone just be quiet and let me dream for a second. Please ford, please please please make one of the available configurations 4X4 with 2.7 Ecoboost and 6 speed manual. Don't make me get a god awful Taco or the million year old Frontier to get a configuration close to this.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:Also, supposedly the new 550xi does sub-4 second 0-60. If the Italian electronic parking brake is designed to fail in the "on" position maybe it'll prevent more roll-away deaths!
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Really any engine 4x4 manual ranger would get pre ordered ASAP by myself
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Yeah, wet dream would be the ecoboost. But Id gladly take any engine with 4X4 and stick. Im in the same boat. Ill preorder the loving thing to show I mean business.
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Why would you want a manual in a vehicle like that? I've had the misfortune of driving the current (international) version a bit and I'd far prefer an auto box (maybe it'd be different with a petrol engine but I wouldn't think so)
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I'm betting we'll get a base 4 banger, the 3.3 and the 2.7EB. Decent shot at the 5 cylinder diesel from the Transit too. I'll happily take a 4x4 with the 3.3.
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It'll still be ~3800lbs, i don't think an n/a 4 banger will make it in. the 3.3 will probably be the base engine, the 2.3 in 87 octane trim an option on cheap spec trucks and the 2.7 an option on more expensive trucks.
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dissss posted:Why would you want a manual in a vehicle like that? I've had the misfortune of driving the current (international) version a bit and I'd far prefer an auto box (maybe it'd be different with a petrol engine but I wouldn't think so) Everyone here hates autos no matter how much stop-and-go traffic they drive in.
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Powershift posted:It'll still be ~3800lbs, i don't think an n/a 4 banger will make it in.
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Michael Scott posted:Everyone here hates autos no matter how much stop-and-go traffic they drive in. I love manuals, have one in my car and don't bitch about traffic. It doesn't mean they're appropriate for all sorts of vehicles.
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Q_res posted:The Colorado has one, I see no reason not to expect the same for the Ranger. Yeah, but so does the impala and the ATS. The ford equivalents start with a 3.5 v6 or a 2.0 turbo. Chevy sticks the 2.5 into trim levels nobody actually buys just to say they start at an attractive price. Ford does the same with the rental spec fusion/escape, but i can see that dying off soon, too. The 2.5 duratec hasn't really changed since 2009, and i can't see a reason for them to update it before they drop it.
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dissss posted:I love manuals, have one in my car and don't bitch about traffic. It doesn't mean they're appropriate for all sorts of vehicles. The good news is most trucks are ready to go in your exact wanted configuration! Me personally, Ive had 3 stick trucks in my life and Ive loved each of them to death. Now that I have the money to buy a new one, Id love to do just that. My current choices include.....2. Total. And really that is just 1, as Toyota makes it drat near impossible to get a 6 speed, and even if you do somehow pull it off, they do bullshit things like certain colors MUST come with a tonneau cover. Oh you want the completely ultra rare color Black? No sorry, we arent making that one right now.
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Franco Caution posted:The good news is most trucks are ready to go in your exact wanted configuration! Not in my part of the world - autos are quickly catching on but look in any Colorado or Hilux or Ranger or whatever and it'll probably still be a manual.
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Haven't had to drive in traffic for years, have yet to find an auto that is acceptable because on snowy steep roads they are all loving garbage. Yes I've tried all combos of drivetrain and tires. I want to spin the wheels a bit at 3k rpm STOP FIGHTING ME ARGHHHH
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