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MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go
Depending on the company, HR either has most or all of the control over employees. They exercise it in the form of company policies and hiring practices.

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Application specialist: I can't get this tomcat server to load. What did you do?

Me: I didn't do anything, I delivered the server to you a week ago with a working tomcat, what did you do?

AppSpec: nothing, I had to restart it and now it won't load, you need to fix this

Me: So a week ago, you told me you needed a new tomcat to work on this week, all week you've done nothing, but today you decided to reload the tomcat?

AppSpec: No I haven't done "nothing" but I haven't changed anything that would make the tomcat not start.

Me: So you have done something, show me exactly what file you edited.

AppSpec: I haven't edited any files

Me: what what did you do all week?

AppSpec: worked on the tomcat and webapp

Me: What files did you change?

AppSpec: no files, I didn't do anything.

Me: :psyduck:

Me: * find -mtime -5 you edited server.xml, that's the main tomcat config. What did you change?

AppSpec: nothing

Me: well I have the file in SVN looks like you added these directories.

AppSpec: I deleted those directories since the plugins in them aren't needed any more

Me: so you did do something, you modified this file and deleted directories

AppSpec: no, I told you I didn't do anything to the tomcat.


Me: excuse me while I jump out this window.

The worst part about this is that you are using SVN instead of git. :colbert:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
The director of marketing is at it again!

This time he accepted a meeting last week for today to review the GUI changes needed before I will do any work on implementing the GUI on our product.
Today he left work two hours before the meeting without telling anybody in advance, and won't be back until Tuesday!
Thanks for holding up the project gently caress head!

Foxtrot_13
Oct 31, 2013
Ask me about my love of genocide denial!

dogstile posted:

No phones allowed in meeting rooms. She also made the decision not to have some form of Dictaphone in meetings, preferring to go with the bring in another person and just have them try to keep up with the conversation.


Did you know it's perfectly legal in England to secretly record any meeting you are present in as long as you don't record periods when you are not in the room.

Yes this stood up in court as a company tried to get a recording of a disciplinary meeting thrown out during a wrongful dismissal case.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

ratbert90 posted:

The worst part about this is that you are using SVN instead of git. :colbert:

But what if they got binaries in their repo. What then? :science:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

ratbert90 posted:

The director of marketing is at it again!

This time he accepted a meeting last week for today to review the GUI changes needed before I will do any work on implementing the GUI on our product.
Today he left work two hours before the meeting without telling anybody in advance, and won't be back until Tuesday!
Thanks for holding up the project gently caress head!

Sounds like tacit approval, get started

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Foxtrot_13 posted:

Did you know it's perfectly legal in England to secretly record any meeting you are present in as long as you don't record periods when you are not in the room.

Yes this stood up in court as a company tried to get a recording of a disciplinary meeting thrown out during a wrongful dismissal case.

In the US at a federal level this is also true, as long as you are a party to the conversation you're allowed to record it without telling anyone else. State by state it varies, some states require that all parties are aware of the recording.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

xzzy posted:

But what if they got binaries in their repo. What then? :science:

https://git-lfs.github.com/
:science: :colbert: :science:

Volmarias posted:

Sounds like tacit approval, get started

Fuuuuuck no. Because he will bitch and moan and then I will have twice the work. This fucker is a weasel and I know his game all too well. I have a shitload of CYA on this, everybody including the CEO agrees with me that marketing has to approve the GUI changes, AND I sent out an email to everybody in the meeting stating that marketing is holding up implementing the GUI.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

The Fool posted:

I'm having a hard time grasping why anyone in HR has direct authority over employees in other departments.

HR reports directly to the owner, CEO, CTO etc, at many smaller companies. At many companies the president or CEO is effectively the HR.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
We somehow got involved with mounting a TV. Facilities is being super flaky and is now of a stance that they won't do the mounting... well who the gently caress else drills into walls here then? We're also responsible for getting all the parts for some reason too even though we're not supposed to be doing tvs. Our management doesn't want to be the bad guy and enforce our scope of work, so she just says yes to everything.

There's so much drama around this thing, but the funny thing is that it's just bullshit toys we're talking about here. This is just the CEO trying to make his office into the bridge of the loving Enterprise by adding a view screen for his meetings. There is no revenue at stake at all, indeed they've had to make cuts to hours of people doing the actual work here while he's getting a this 60'' 4K tv in place to show off. He wants it by the time he gets back from the Easter break, so everyone is scrambling and the smart ones are making us coordinate it because our leadership can't say no to anything.

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

skooma512 posted:

We somehow got involved with mounting a TV.

Off topic but where is your av from? It looks so familiar, but I can't place it.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

A Pinball Wizard posted:

Off topic but where is your av from? It looks so familiar, but I can't place it.

https://youtu.be/VkVHvD-IMbg

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
Christ, the quality of that video. How did we all live like that. https://youtu.be/EiagMPrbJkE

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The ten year anniversary of the Will Ferrell "Landlord" video was today. The original is still online in its original location, and it looks like it's a 10th generation upload and encode.

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
HR at our workplace mostly focuses on onboarding new folks, insurance plans, ordering us new business cards, etc. We don't have performance reviews anymore either (even then it was with your manager, not HR). Starting last year, we now have "touch calls" where you have a call with your manager six times a year to catch up on things. My manager does it monthly though. He calls once a month and we bullshit for half an hour. We might talk about some work stuff for a few minutes, catching up on things that have happened since I talked to him the previous day (all of our team members are remote). But after that it's just poo poo like "What have you been up to? Been hitting the bike trails? How's [wife's name]?"

He lets HR know we had the call and for each of the six official ones, we can put up to $5 on the company card to treat ourselves. For most people that means buying yourself a $5 amazon gift card six times a year. Much nicer than evaluations.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...
$5 to treat yourself sounds like a Simpsons joke where Mr. Burns still thinks that's a fabulous amount of money for a simple worker because it was in 1920.

a_pineapple
Dec 23, 2005


Our HR team knows that they are the ones who need to be submitting tickets for new employee onboarding. They have done it for years. Lately they have been trying to get the managers of the new employees to submit the requests instead. Of course our boss has a spine and has told us not to even think about creating new user accounts until we get the official ticket from HR, or at least until the onboarding process has been officially changed and signed off by the right people.

HR has been passive aggressive and petty as gently caress about it lately... Waiting until Friday afternoon to submit the onboarding ticket for Monday, which doesn't give us enough time. All that ends up happening is that our Friday afternoons are spent reimaging a computer and reinstalling all the loving hacked together Office customizations that we "NEED on ALL systems, regardless of role!!" according to some dinosaur in marketing with a hardon for Excel because he isn't smart enough to learn how to use Visual Studio.

Of course the new employee is sitting there twiddling their thumbs until noon without a desk or any equipment, all because HR didn't give us enough time.

So yeah, (corporate) IT and HR should be working together and scratching eachothers' backs since a lot of our duties are closely related, but for some reason they just don't see it that way.




edit: Oh wait I just figured it out... People in HR are just users, and users don't submit tickets until we twist their arms. Duh, it make so much sense now.

a_pineapple fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Apr 14, 2017

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe
poo poo pissing me off: a call came in ...

:classiclol: Hey, I know you're taking PTO at the moment, but the labelprinter isn't installed on my computer.
:( I'm taking PTO because my wife just had surgery and I'm taking care of her.
:classiclol: Oh, I didn't know that.
:( I'm in the office tomorrow, I'll take a look then, okay.

He always does this, calling me when I'm out, for the most trivial stuff. And to top it off, when I contacted him to install the printer, he'd already done it himself. SO WHY CALL ME, rear end in a top hat? Also, there's like 5 pc's less than 10 meters from your desk that have the printer installed, just use one of those.

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
The HR nonsense in my company is either 500 miles or 2,000 miles away, not sure at this point. I guess maybe there's an HR rep in my office, but the fact that I'm not sure.... :smugdon:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

sixth and maimed posted:

poo poo pissing me off: a call came in ...

:classiclol: Hey, I know you're taking PTO at the moment, but the labelprinter isn't installed on my computer.
:( I'm taking PTO because my wife just had surgery and I'm taking care of her.
:classiclol: Oh, I didn't know that.
:( I'm in the office tomorrow, I'll take a look then, okay.

He always does this, calling me when I'm out, for the most trivial stuff. And to top it off, when I contacted him to install the printer, he'd already done it himself. SO WHY CALL ME, rear end in a top hat? Also, there's like 5 pc's less than 10 meters from your desk that have the printer installed, just use one of those.

What the gently caress are you doing answering the god damned phone? Stop enabling him by doing so! And accost his rear end for calling you as well when you get back!

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

sixth and maimed posted:

poo poo pissing me off: a call came in ...

:classiclol: Hey, I know you're taking PTO at the moment, but the labelprinter isn't installed on my computer.
:( I'm taking PTO because my wife just had surgery and I'm taking care of her.
:classiclol: Oh, I didn't know that.
:( I'm in the office tomorrow, I'll take a look then, okay.

He always does this, calling me when I'm out, for the most trivial stuff. And to top it off, when I contacted him to install the printer, he'd already done it himself. SO WHY CALL ME, rear end in a top hat? Also, there's like 5 pc's less than 10 meters from your desk that have the printer installed, just use one of those.

Unless you're on call why are you even answering?

E. That's what I get for not refresshing before replying...

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe

ratbert90 posted:

What the gently caress are you doing answering the god damned phone? Stop enabling him by doing so! And accost his rear end for calling you as well when you get back!

I'm the only IT guy in a SME. I get paid pretty well and have nice benefits but if poo poo hits the fan (ERP shits the bed, telephone system goes down, etc.) I'm the only guy that knows how to fix it or who to contact. Got to take the bad with the good. Almost all of my collegues are pretty decent about it and only call in case of real emergencies, but for this guy. Next time he visits our office, I'm going to take it up with him.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

sixth and maimed posted:

I'm the only IT guy in a SME. I get paid pretty well and have nice benefits but if poo poo hits the fan (ERP shits the bed, telephone system goes down, etc.) I'm the only guy that knows how to fix it or who to contact. Got to take the bad with the good. Almost all of my collegues are pretty decent about it and only call in case of real emergencies, but for this guy. Next time he visits our office, I'm going to take it up with him.

That's how it goes at small shops. I got a call last xmas or thanksgiving about something dumb before.

InevitableCheese
Jul 10, 2015

quite a pickle you've got there
Things that piss me off:

For the past few months, we were allowed to work 9 hour days for 9 days, and take our tenth day off (flexible time off). We also setup the ability to work remotely by forwarding our desk phone to our company cell phone.

We recently lost these privileges because the lazy few ruined it for everyone. That paired with a delay in ringing cells made it to where people on-site handled more calls. Call metrics were significantly lower when working from home, so I can understand why working remotely was gone. But flexible time off was also axed.

I work with some older people, and they were talking to us about how they were glad it was gone. "Management was doing a disservice to you guys by allowing FTO, you get used to leniency and that's not how things work in the real world, bucko. You want a day off anywhere else and they'd fire your rear end. You can't just call in sick because you stayed up too late last night. We need people who want to be here every day. I enjoyed having those days off, but I'm glad things are bad to normal, we just aren't close as a department anymore."

Do old people just loving love to work, and think young people are lazy? These loving people come in on Saturdays just for the hell of it. These people have no formal training, only know how things work because they've clicked it a million times, and if anything happens out of the ordinary fixes they're lost. They have zero clue how DNS works, what an IP address or subnet is, they just know "them's them numbers i put in the little box there and the printer works". If I ask for help, I am treated with condescending answers and questions, making me go through all the things I've already tried and didn't work.

TLDR gently caress baby boomers retire goddamit

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

InevitableCheese posted:

Do old people just loving love to work, and think young people are lazy? These loving people come in on Saturdays just for the hell of it.
Probably don't want to be at home all day with their spouse or doing chores around the house.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

InevitableCheese posted:

TLDR gently caress baby boomers retire goddamit

I'm looking forward to seeing how the gen x folks manage to gently caress up running the world.

Assuming they get the opportunity, the boomers refuse to die off so it seems like there's a chance we'll jump straight into the millenials running the world. Entire businesses run through snapchat. :v:

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

sixth and maimed posted:

I'm the only IT guy in a SME. I get paid pretty well and have nice benefits but if poo poo hits the fan (ERP shits the bed, telephone system goes down, etc.) I'm the only guy that knows how to fix it or who to contact. Got to take the bad with the good. Almost all of my collegues are pretty decent about it and only call in case of real emergencies, but for this guy. Next time he visits our office, I'm going to take it up with him.

If it's important they will leave a Voicemail that you can listen to, and then determine if they get a call back or not.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Next time they call you about how to do something simple, maybe allude to how back in the old days a man knew how to do his job, and do it well, or he was fired. None of this constant hand holding malarkey. What do you think this is, nursery school?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

skooma512 posted:

Next time they call you about how to do something simple, maybe allude to how back in the old days a man knew how to do his job, and do it well, or he was fired. None of this constant hand holding malarkey. What do you think this is, nursery school?

Heh. Ironically all the boomers here got coddled and hand-held, anyone new that fucks up gets canned.

Zamboni Apocalypse
Dec 29, 2009

Volmarias posted:

$5 to treat yourself sounds like a Simpsons joke where Mr. Burns still thinks that's a fabulous amount of money for a simple worker because it was in 1920.

They could make a tontine out of it - everyone pools their $5 amount into a single account, last one still employed cashes it out.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


I finally get the budget to replace HR's 14 year old printer that is a hand-me down from another department. The thing is designed for way more pages than they print so convincing management we didn't need a $2000 printer they couldn't afford and instead just needed a nice M402 took until the old printer finally poo poo the bed. HR also prints checks (pre-numbered). User has been begging me for 2 weeks to get this thing in while CFO is dragging heels and I do them a favor and set it up at 12:00 and take a late lunch so they can print with a test page and orientation. HR is confused by it goes into settings and sets it to manual duplex and complaining that it's printing the last page first and needs to print the first page first.

I go in there and they just want the old printer that jams every 4th page because they only have 2 hours before we close early for the day. Fine I'll drag it out of the trash for you enjoy unjammed it. You need to print 70 checks today and it's going to take you 2 hours while you unjam it instead of 10 minutes on your nice new printer because you are confused by it.

I tried to fix your 14 year old printer because you and management insisted, you even had someone else come out and say the gear assembly is completely hosed. You are even stiffing the guy and refusing to pay because he only showed up for 10 minutes and didn't fix anything. Why the gently caress do you want this old printer?

This is why we can't have nice things isn't it?

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

They don't print checks with a MICR toner cartridge?

Our accounting department prints the checks, but they can never load the paper in there facing the right way, etc

The accounting lady (she's 72) takes all the check stock out of the printer and puts it in a locked file cabinet every time they are done printing checks.

The printer itself has a lock/key on it to turn it on.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Bob Morales posted:

Heh. Ironically all the boomers here got coddled and hand-held, anyone new that fucks up gets canned.

My inlaws are like this. They lived successful professional careers since the 70s and 80s and were at least familiar with computers enough to scrape by on the job. Now, every time they come over it's a "can you help me get pictures off my phone" tech session. God forbid the older generation try to learn something new.

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!

Bob Morales posted:

They don't print checks with a MICR toner cartridge?

Our accounting department prints the checks, but they can never load the paper in there facing the right way, etc

The accounting lady (she's 72) takes all the check stock out of the printer and puts it in a locked file cabinet every time they are done printing checks.

The printer itself has a lock/key on it to turn it on.

We don't use an MICR toner and the bank has never complained. The pre-numbered stock goes back in a locked drawer. I hate checks.

edit: The amount of bitching when the bank started sending copies of checks instead of originals was something. Why would you want them back at all when the statement has everything on it?

thebigcow fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Apr 14, 2017

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


I just got the Honeywell scanner I was waiting on for shipping, does this thing seriously use an ethernet port to connect to USB? Does it seriously not come with the cable? Do they seriously want over $100 for the cable? (I checked Amazon and I found one for $10 that mentioned the scanner model).

Was this supposed to come with the cable and Honeywell hosed up? I want to know how to complain to my VAR that their listing didn't mention a not included propitiatory cable. I'm not worried about $10, I'm worried about the 50% the cost of the scanner that Honeywell wants for the cable. It's not even the money it's not being able to unbox it and set it up.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Looking at a random Honeywell on the place that was my go-to for barcode stuff at a previous job, there is indeed a no-cables included SKU:

http://www.thebarcodewarehouse.co.uk/barcode-scanners-and-readers/handheld-barcode-scanners/honeywell-xenon-1900/

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


It's a wall mounted unit. It also doesn't mention it's not USB-B I didn't even think to look for if a USB cable would be included because I have a mountain of USB-B cables. I did find one that says it includes a USB cable for the same model it's +$30 so still come out ahead as long as I go with Amazon. And over a cable I don't care about using a VAR, just something I would hope they'd catch while getting the quote, they're usually really good about that.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?

skooma512 posted:

We somehow got involved with mounting a TV. Facilities is being super flaky and is now of a stance that they won't do the mounting... well who the gently caress else drills into walls here then? We're also responsible for getting all the parts for some reason too even though we're not supposed to be doing tvs. Our management doesn't want to be the bad guy and enforce our scope of work, so she just says yes to everything.

There's so much drama around this thing, but the funny thing is that it's just bullshit toys we're talking about here. This is just the CEO trying to make his office into the bridge of the loving Enterprise by adding a view screen for his meetings. There is no revenue at stake at all, indeed they've had to make cuts to hours of people doing the actual work here while he's getting a this 60'' 4K tv in place to show off. He wants it by the time he gets back from the Easter break, so everyone is scrambling and the smart ones are making us coordinate it because our leadership can't say no to anything.
Oh yeah been there, I just bluntly told those who asked if I could do it that yeah I could give it a go... never mounted something like this on drywall and will probably gently caress it up, hey what about those building contractors we had in they do good work!

I didn't even get told a plan, just a buy a TV and put it in the conference room! I pushed for a mini pc to hang on the back if they actually wanted to do anything with it, but no denied go and get some thing about of storage. At the very least the two other TVs we have out on the sales floor are finally being used, as I switched them to Chromesticks which only display a google sheets spreadsheet each refreshed every five minutes.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


pixaal posted:

It's a wall mounted unit. It also doesn't mention it's not USB-B I didn't even think to look for if a USB cable would be included because I have a mountain of USB-B cables. I did find one that says it includes a USB cable for the same model it's +$30 so still come out ahead as long as I go with Amazon. And over a cable I don't care about using a VAR, just something I would hope they'd catch while getting the quote, they're usually really good about that.

Yeah if it's a VAR rather than just a box shifter then I'd expect them to ask you about the interface you wanted.

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DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

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sixth and maimed posted:

poo poo pissing me off: a call came in ...

:classiclol: Hey, I know you're taking PTO at the moment, but the labelprinter isn't installed on my computer.
:( I'm taking PTO because my wife just had surgery and I'm taking care of her.
:classiclol: Oh, I didn't know that.
:( I'm in the office tomorrow, I'll take a look then, okay.

He always does this, calling me when I'm out, for the most trivial stuff. And to top it off, when I contacted him to install the printer, he'd already done it himself. SO WHY CALL ME, rear end in a top hat? Also, there's like 5 pc's less than 10 meters from your desk that have the printer installed, just use one of those.

Why the gently caress did you pick your phone up on PTO?

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