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Tender Bender posted:Are DOTA games really like 40 minutes? This is my first dip into the genre but if that's the case I don't really care if this is the baby version, I don't have any interest in matches that long. Yes, if you're lucky There was a time in Dota 2's history when 20-35 minute games were the norm, but then Valve decided that it was bad that games would end before the 40 minute mark. They made towers stronger, added comeback gold, added shrines, added passive gold, added tower armor auras and whatever so now every game lasts 40+ minutes unless one team is way, way worse than the other. The reason why Valve did this was not to make the game more fun to play, but to make eSports more interesting to watch Dota 2 is not a very good game anymore
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That's weird, I heard it was 35 minutes for a typical match. They also just reduced the number of shrines and doubled the rate of jungle camp spawns and some other stuff to speed up games
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May 20, 2017 18:16
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The problem is that if both teams are bad the game is taking an hour
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May 20, 2017 18:20
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i wanted to post the 200 minute pro match from a couple years back but i could only find the highlights reel and not the actual full game. hots is way more fun to me because of how fast the games are done with. less stressful too.
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May 20, 2017 18:52
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Does DOTA2 not have easy mode? Warcraft 3 DOTA used to have a mode with increased gold/xp that lasted like 20 minutes which is what I always played
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May 20, 2017 19:11
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Does DOTA2 not have easy mode? Warcraft 3 DOTA used to have a mode with increased gold/xp that lasted like 20 minutes which is what I always played dota 2 isn't a finished game, so of course not but at least now you can enjoy epic portal memes and bet on your mmr
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May 20, 2017 19:17
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You can have Glados commentate your match? Lol...I love cake
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May 20, 2017 20:33
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Bogart posted:You can have Glados commentate your match? Lol...I love cake The Ricky and Morty announcer was the best, last I saw
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May 20, 2017 20:55
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:What if I don't like obnoxious hat casino built into my game? Then... why are you playing loving HotS 2.0? Why did no one call you out for this insanely dumb post lol
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May 20, 2017 22:39
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Poultron posted:Then... why are you playing loving HotS 2.0? Why did no one call you out for this insanely dumb post lol Well you see, loot boxes are different because I get them quicker and have more things in them and also I didnt ask for them to be added I'll have you know My more serious answer is I'm more talking about the Steam Market for dota 2
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May 20, 2017 22:46
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Well you see, loot boxes are different because I get them quicker and have more things in them and also I didnt ask for them to be added I'll have you know I think the real problem with DOTA hats is that they're way worse than HotS skins
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May 20, 2017 22:52
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Video game enthusiasts who don't like hats are in for a rough couple of decades
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May 20, 2017 23:13
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My favorite thing in Hots is re-rolling every lootbox until I get a free hero, and I will never stop doing that, because it's amazing.
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May 20, 2017 23:17
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Whoof, I am not a fan of D.Va's playstyle at all, as it turns out 
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May 20, 2017 23:36
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Turtlicious posted:My favorite thing in Hots is re-rolling every lootbox until I get a free hero, and I will never stop doing that, because it's amazing. It isn't free if ypu spent gold to get it you goomba
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May 20, 2017 23:38
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Just bought Brightwing announcer. How badly did I waste 1600 shard?
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May 20, 2017 23:42
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Toothy posted:Just bought Brightwing announcer. How badly did I waste 1600 shard? If you see a thing you want and you don't want to waste time/gold waiting for it to drop from a loot box, just use shards to buy it. That's what they're there for.
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May 20, 2017 23:44
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Wow Alarak's quests are hard.
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May 21, 2017 00:21
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Poultron posted:I think the real problem with DOTA hats is that they're way worse than HotS skins Even leaving the looks up to taste you have to get them in pieces.
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May 21, 2017 00:23
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Even leaving the looks up to taste you have to get them in pieces. Ha ha, wait. Seriously? Skins come in multiple pieces? That's loving atrocious, quality of the game aside.
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May 21, 2017 00:38
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i liked the ability to mix and match pieces to create even cooler/more interesting/more horrifying amalgamations of poo poo
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May 21, 2017 00:45
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Okay as a fellow former CoXer that's a fair point. I was just put off by the idea of getting a skin and not being able to simply say "Oh awesome, new skin to use!"
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May 21, 2017 01:01
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Making the most horrifyingly clashing mess was wicked fun in TF2 and I imagine it is also fun in DOTA2, but DOTA2 is a bad game that I don't play so I won't ever find out.
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Mind over Matter posted:Okay as a fellow former CoXer that's a fair point. I was just put off by the idea of getting a skin and not being able to simply say "Oh awesome, new skin to use!" You can buy them in full packages. Most of the skins available are made by individual artists rather than just from the company itself, and they get a pretty generous portion of the proceeds. Aside from that, a lot of the pieces are literal pennies on the steam market. When I quit dota and dumped my cosmetics, a ton of them were (and still are) worth literally 2-3 cents a piece. The Shortest Path posted:Making the most horrifyingly clashing mess was wicked fun in TF2 and I imagine it is also fun in DOTA2, but DOTA2 is a bad game that I don't play so I won't ever find out. It's fun but it isn't AS fun because you're seeing everything zoomed out from the top down. It isn't like in TF2 where you dunk someone with your terribly gaudy Soldier cosmetics and he has to stare at your mug for a few seconds.
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May 21, 2017 01:13
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I got a legendary skin for a character I don't have which is kind of a bummer. Thanks goons who grouped with me for the Nexus quest, I was ganondalf, the guy who missed with a lot of stormbolts. It was fun though!
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May 21, 2017 01:19
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Tender Bender posted:I got a legendary skin for a character I don't have which is kind of a bummer. Nice when they come around on the free hero rotation, though. Unless it's Abathur or TLV, in which case have fun waiting!
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May 21, 2017 01:46
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Tsurupettan posted:they get a pretty generous portion of the proceeds. Well, they used to, anyway.
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Yeah, I tried going for the Carapace Abathur build and it just wasn't enough. It was nice to get some incidental health on a tank while they're moving around between lanes, but I'd rather put that hat on a minion wave to soak XP and let them find a globe on their own. Mines and Locusts are far better; improving the hat is such a low priority compared to improving Abathur's other utilities that it's just too much of an opportunity cost.
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Carapace took a big hit with a recent nerf-slash-bugfix. It used to be that even though the AOE Carapace talent said the additional ones were untalented, it gave everything it hit the heal and the shield stayed after Symbiote ended. With those in place Carapace Abathur could actually put up some decent healing over time. Now with that removed I just can't imagine it stacks up anymore, like you said.
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This game is pretty great right now because you can bring friends into play it and they can figure out a hero they like in 2 or 3 matches. I played League for a long time but got tired of keeping up with it and DOTA has an enormous information burden that I wouldn't wish on anyone. I can't fathom why anyone would complain about the hero buying system Blizzard has especially for multiple pages considering they just gave everyone 20 for free and you can buy some of the cheaper ones after clearing like one set of daily quests and matches. I think I've maybe spent $10 on this game on a skin or two like 2 years ago and that was totally unnecessary. No one has to spend any money on this game the pace of unlocking stuff is really fast for a F2P game.
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Ciaphas posted:Whoof, I am not a fan of D.Va's playstyle at all, as it turns out If playing Big Tuna Murky from level 1 doesn't sound great to you, D.Va isn't for you. Just boosting in and around fights annoying the hell of people, occasionally actually committing to a fight to body someone hard.
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May 21, 2017 03:15
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Big Tuna Murky, with a permanent -75% damage debuff
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Fellatio del Toro posted:Big Tuna Murky, with a permanent -75% damage debuff With ggwp and big shot Dva can do an absurd amount of damage. Bunny hop is great for chasing people down to lay on the hurt and slow for your team mates. But yeah don't bother shooting anyone that isn't already low health, whether that means mages or beat up tanks
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Libertine posted:This game is pretty great right now because you can bring friends into play it and they can figure out a hero they like in 2 or 3 matches. I played League for a long time but got tired of keeping up with it and DOTA has an enormous information burden that I wouldn't wish on anyone. Because the game launched two years ago in an already crowded market with an absurd asking price for heroes, and even now keeps that trend going. It's why no one loving plays it despite largely being a step up in terms of playability. These bundles are also going away in two days. Oh Snapple! fucked around with this message at 03:48 on May 21, 2017 |
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Shooting people (or, more likely, minions, mercs and structures) builds charge. Always Be Shooting!
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Dva can be powerful but she is so incredibly boring. Always choose bunny hop tho
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VHGS posted:Well, they used to, anyway. I asked my friends about your comment, since I used to be fairly involved with the financials of that scene back in 2015 and earlier, and loving rip. I didn't realize that happened! That sucks. A lot of my friends who were heavy into the dota 2 workshop scene are pulling out now because they can't make jack poo poo.
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May 21, 2017 04:41
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All else equal, what's more XP in QM: A 5-stack+Friend loss or a solo win?
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Are your friends all really bad?
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Tbh I would like to know just so I don't feel bad inviting goons to play with me. Any tips on playing Rag? I tried him out and his moveset seems really fun but I felt ineffective and died a lot. Any melee assassin tips in general would be cool, I've mainly played Muradin/Zarya/Uther so far, so a guy that can't take hits is something I seem to be having trouble with.
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