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Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees

Len posted:

I'm torn between those and microchip ones

Get both with the portion pro rx! Unless you need to do wet food it has an automatic feeder with a door that closes when the wrong cat approaches or only open when the right one does.

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SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

Shelter kitten of the week: this beautiful little guy.
I'm really glad that even with current events, cats and kittens are still finding homes without too much trouble. Things have slowed down a bit but they're still moving.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Len posted:

I just realized it's been almost 5 months since I scooped a litterbox last. Holy poo poo this lifestyle

Yo which litter do you use in your robot? The stuff I have is ok but they track it all over the place and it’s super dusty.

It keeps the smell down great but the downsides suck. I legit have to clean up almost every day and I have a big mat in front.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


MarcusSA posted:

Yo which litter do you use in your robot? The stuff I have is ok but they track it all over the place and it’s super dusty.

It keeps the smell down great but the downsides suck. I legit have to clean up almost every day and I have a big mat in front.

One of the Arm & Hammer ones, I think the black multicat box? I'm hesitant to change it up because Bean is picky

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




I use world's best and it does ok. Grain size is a little large so if I fill up to the line it dumps a lot of it that doesn't make it through the sieve. The red package stuff is far less dusty than the green package stuff. Litter still gets loving everywhere and I couldn't figure out why until I saw one of the cats take a flying leap out of it instead of walking.

mistaya
Oct 18, 2006

Cat of Wealth and Taste

I've been using the Cat Attract in mine and it works really well, I was having some uh, let's call them 'protest pees' with the initial batch of Tidy Cats and I don't blame them, that stuff was awful. Cat Attract works to get them to piss where they should and even though it's a little pricier there's so much less litter use with the robot that I'd call it worth.

I miss the nice wood-scent the pine pellets had but overall I enjoy the litter robot a lot, though I will say it took my elderly pair about 2-3 weeks to really get comfortable with it and I would STRONGLY suggest getting the stairs/accessory kit because they've saved my rear end from some horrible messes that I'd have had to deal with if I didn't have them.

Though this morning I woke up to a complete, intact pile of poo poo on the plastic litter guard (that I absolutely have to use or they will put their front paws in and piss on the stairs) which must have rotated around upside down and yet did not unstick from the guard... How? I... I don't know...

re: feral cat, you could name him Eugene after the cop that distracted all the rioters if you want an actual name-name.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Thanks I’ll look into those.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

im concerned my cat may be traumatized or something

the other day a dog from somebody who lives near us escaped and got into our garden where our cat was hanging out, the dog wasn't aggressive but we found our cat up in a tall tree, it took an hour or so to get him to climb down, he was too high up to reach with a ladder. he mustve climbed up there in a panic because there were some rose vines in the way that wouldve been painful to climb up through, and which hindered him on the way down. i checked him for injuries afterwards but couldnt find any and he seems fine and likes to do the same kind of playful stuff he liked to do before

except ever since that incident hes been extremely restless, just constantly going in and out the door, unable to just lie down and relax until he gets very tired, constantly trying to get attention. he was always like that a bit, but it's noticeably worse now.

picking him up and hugging him doesn't really help much, normally this ends his requests for attention. playing with him seems to be the only thing that interests him, and eating

is he traumatized and can i do anything for him or will this probably get better in a few days or weeks?

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

So when you all talk about this life changing litter robot you mean this right?

https://www.chewy.com/litter-robot-wifi-enabled-automatic/dp/278270

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Shibawanko posted:

im concerned my cat may be traumatized or something

the other day a dog from somebody who lives near us escaped and got into our garden where our cat was hanging out, the dog wasn't aggressive but we found our cat up in a tall tree, it took an hour or so to get him to climb down, he was too high up to reach with a ladder. he mustve climbed up there in a panic because there were some rose vines in the way that wouldve been painful to climb up through, and which hindered him on the way down. i checked him for injuries afterwards but couldnt find any and he seems fine and likes to do the same kind of playful stuff he liked to do before

except ever since that incident hes been extremely restless, just constantly going in and out the door, unable to just lie down and relax until he gets very tired, constantly trying to get attention. he was always like that a bit, but it's noticeably worse now.

picking him up and hugging him doesn't really help much, normally this ends his requests for attention. playing with him seems to be the only thing that interests him, and eating

is he traumatized and can i do anything for him or will this probably get better in a few days or weeks?

Most of our cats have been through episodes like that at one time or another. He'll get over it eventually. He'll probably have a residual phobia about the tree or the fence or something about the situation.

Cats have very good memories for life-threatening situations and generally won't let it happen twice.

That's part of what makes cats so weird. They will have a memory of some situation from years previous that is vaguely like a current one and will freak out for no apparent reason sometimes. It's just cats. :shrug:

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees

Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

So when you all talk about this life changing litter robot you mean this right?

https://www.chewy.com/litter-robot-wifi-enabled-automatic/dp/278270

Yeah that's it. If you buy direct from the company one of us can get you a 25 dollars off referral too. It'll pay the referee 25 as well. And honestly I didn't need the wifi version, non wifi is 50 dollars cheaper I think.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

So when you all talk about this life changing litter robot you mean this right?

https://www.chewy.com/litter-robot-wifi-enabled-automatic/dp/278270

http://share.litter-robot.com/396lWT

We had to get the fat ramp for our chunk but it legitimately has been life changing

Edit: fixed the link

Len fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Jan 19, 2021

InvisibleMonkey
Jun 4, 2004


Hey, girl.
I hate that the euro version costs the equivalent of $660, like why.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

How big is the waste drawer? How often do you all wind up needing to empty it?

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

How big is the waste drawer? How often do you all wind up needing to empty it?

With my two cats it gets emptied every 6/7 days

jimmychoo
Sep 30, 2008

poste du monocylindre
just want to come into this thread and scream and scream because apparently my cat's omentalization of his pancreatic pseudocyst hasn't... worked? he was doing really really well (a week post-op) and then all of a sudden started getting the same symptoms he had before. his vet specialist sucks. i'm pissed and upset and so stressed.

so today he has to go to his local vet for fluids and then tomorrow back to the specialty vet an hour away. they're all bitches, i wish he could see his local vet for all this :smith:

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
I noticed that my cat had some scabs in his armpit area. Then today, he hopped on my lap and I noticed he had a scab on his head:



It looks like a scab, isn't bumpy, and doesn't seem to bother him when I touch it. Is it vet visit worthy? I live indoors and he goes to a groomer monthly to get a bath / haircut. Is there anything I can put on to treat it?

JaneError
Feb 4, 2016

how would i even breathe on the moon?

Shibawanko posted:

is he traumatized and can i do anything for him or will this probably get better in a few days or weeks?

He’ll be okay. Our kitten got into our basement storage room, jumped on a footboard we had down there, and tipped it over, causing a big crash and freaking her out. For like a week she refused to jump on anything—even, like, our couch. I was a bit worried we’d permanently broken her, but one day she just...got over it and is back to her normal acrobatic self.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Hmm, I don't know. I mean, the Litter Robot LOOKS cool, but it's an awful lot of money for a litter box. And you still need to take it apart and clean it out every once in a while too, right? Hmm

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Hmm, I don't know. I mean, the Litter Robot LOOKS cool, but it's an awful lot of money for a litter box. And you still need to take it apart and clean it out every once in a while too, right? Hmm

I've had to take it apart once and that's because rear end in a top hat drug some paper into the thing and it got stuck mid cycle creating a jam

Sarern
Nov 4, 2008

:toot:
Won't you take me to
Bomertown?
Won't you take me to
BONERTOWN?

:toot:

Len posted:

I've had to take it apart once and that's because rear end in a top hat drug some paper into the thing and it got stuck mid cycle creating a jam

That cat managed to DOS a litterbox by causing a paper jam. That cat rules.

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Hmm, OK. And you'd all say the Litter Robot is way way way better than any other auto-cleaning litterbox?

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




This the best overview of it i've found. Dude has gone through the other models too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQL8JxFWmOY

Also just a great little channel.

Spikes32
Jul 25, 2013

Happy trees
I haven't tried other automatic litter boxes. What I can say is after 8 months with 3 cats I would still buy it again in a heartbeat.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Spikes32 posted:

I haven't tried other automatic litter boxes. What I can say is after 8 months with 3 cats I would still buy it again in a heartbeat.

Hard same

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

Don't get me wrong, from everything I've read this all sounds great. But I want to explore my options a bit. Has anyone here used a CatGenie? I already have my current litter box in the laundry room, so the water/drainage hookups shouldn't be an issue.

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
I haven’t looked on the site to see what’s available now but I have bought refurbished Litter Robots and they have been great. As far as longevity, I highly recommend them. Our oldest LR is like 10 years old, I’ve replaced the motherboard in one and the ball on another and they keep on truckin’.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

I know the LR is expensive but it’s hands down the best investment you can make in your pets.

It’s a huge improvement in quality of life for you and them.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




Imagine how much poop you've scooped in a bag, by hand every day or few days over the years. Now imagine never having to do that ever again and only having to think about it when you get a little notification on your phone when its time to change out the bag and add a little litter.

I've only had it for a couple of months and with my 2 small cats only empty it every week and a half or so. Zero regrets especially now that I'm working from home full time.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:

Don't get me wrong, from everything I've read this all sounds great. But I want to explore my options a bit. Has anyone here used a CatGenie? I already have my current litter box in the laundry room, so the water/drainage hookups shouldn't be an issue.

I know there was a recent conversation about whether or not flushing litter is safe

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

I've used both, and at the risk of going into a long, long compare/contrast I'll say I vastly prefer my Litter Robot experience over the Cat Genie.

Robot Mil
Apr 13, 2011

Those of you with a litter robot and multiple cats, did you get rid of extra litter boxes and just have one litter robot? I know conventional wisdom is cats + 1 for litter boxes, but lol at buying 3. Having a litter robot plus regular litter boxes also seems to defeat the point.

Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




I have two cats and they happily used a single big box before, but I added a 2nd because when they started using the 2nd it told me I needed to clean the 1st. They've been fine with just the litter robot. One is too small to trip the sensor but the other one comes along eventually to set it off.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

In essence the point of the Litter Robot is that it cycles every time a cat goes potty so there's ALWAYS a clean litter box to use. Now, if your cats don't like sharing a litterbox, then that's a problem that may or may not resolve with a Litter Robot since it takes a trivial amount of time to cycle and so it should always get rid of the offending turd that the other cat just laid. If you cats want to go simultaneously or whatever because, you know, cats, then okay you might be in trouble. For the most part though a single LR will cover a multicat household just fine. A couple I know have four cats with a single LR and it's been great for them. I have three cats and there's been zero issues sharing it.

Queen Victorian
Feb 21, 2018

I actually just watched a review video comparing automatic litter boxes, mostly because I was curious about what mechanisms other non-Litter Robot models used. My definitely biased conclusion was that nothing compared to Litter Robot and the other options all sucked and some seemed like they’d be more troublesome to deal with than just scooping the poops yourself. Also CatGenie was very strange and overly complicated and I didn’t like it at all.

One thing I really like about the Litter Robot (aside from it being highly effective) is that it doesn’t require expensive proprietary stuff like special litter pellets or liners. Just normal clumping litter and generic trash bags.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

So one of my cats has an upper respiratory infection again - don't think it ever quite went away from the first time, he's been a bit sneezy etc., and so we're having to give him oral antibiotics again (doxycycline liquid)... and he's *absolutely amazed me* with his behaviour re: taking his medicine. The vet told us it was irritating to the throat so to give them wet food after etc. so it can't be nice stuff. I'm pretty sure it's not flavoured with fish or anything like that - just straight up medicine.

Anyway, after the first few times where I had to grab his head and tilt it back to get him to take it, he now comes *running* when he hears the sound of me shaking the medicine bottle. I fill the syringe (with no needle, it's just to squirt it into his mouth) and hold the syringe out for him and he'll lick the end of it, then I just push it into his mouth a little and squirt it in. He's done this about 5 times now. It's incredible, never seen anything like it.

And I know that he doesn't like the taste because of how he reacts afterwards - he immediately starts licking his fur to get the taste off and he also does a bit of a "bleugh" reaction as if he's just taken a neat shot of vodka... but he still takes it voluntarily anyway. I guess he just knows that it has to happen, and associates it with having food afterwards?

I've never had an easier cat than him in just about every regard - he's so sweet, very pliable, happy to be picked up even when he's in the middle of other stuff, eats anything he's given, has never had any kind of litter box issues, he generally listens and learns when he's told off not to do stuff again (though there is still a table he gets on now and then when he shouldn't).

Now if I could just get his brother to act the same.

pidan
Nov 6, 2012


Aww, what a sweetie!

If it's the same antibiotic my cat got, Baytril, I think that is flavored and my cat had the same reaction - accept it willingly, then :chloe: afterwards.

hasegawa
Dec 30, 2008

Wedge Regret
Hi Cat thread,

I have started and deleted a half dozen posts to this thread since we adopted 2 kittens back in July. Most of the behaviors/concerns gradually changed over time, so I haven't felt the need to hit Submit. But we are slowly losing an arms race with these little shits, and it's going to come down to having to move to a space with different doors, or ditching one (or both) of these cats.

We adopted both Asiago (F calico, 3 months old) in July 2020. 1 week later, we adopted Vuli (F black cat, 3 months + 2 weeks old) because Asi is insane and has the energy of a dog, and us two humans couldn't keep up with her. Playing with her for 15 minutes, or 1 hour, or 2 hours isn't enough. The other cat will lay down to sleep, and Asi just keeps loving going and going and going until she gets bored. Sometimes we have regretted not adopting one of Asi's litter mates from the shelter (who all got adopted out right after she did), but despite the chaos, Asiago and Vuli ultimately treat each other like family for the most part and seem to be a functional cat pair.





For the first couple of months we were originally locking them in the upstairs guest bedroom night and letting them out in the morning. Back in September, I just left them out one night when my partner was out of town, and they've had access to most of the house at night ever since (minus the kitchen, or the master bedroom where we are). This way they have more area to chase each other, access to another window to look out, etc. Basically trying to keep them not bored and happy, but I acknowledge that these are spoiled rotten quarantine cats, so they don't have a realistic view of their world, and no amount of food or money spent or attention given will ever be good enough for these bratty summer children that haven't actually gone hungry before.

Both cats misbehave in different ways. Vuli's biggest bad behavior is jumping on the kitchen counter, even during meal prep. We lined the serving bar around the kitchen with 5 gallon water jugs so they can't jump on top, and use an ikea room divider to block the main entrance to the kitchen. Every time we go into the kitchen now, we have to move the god drat room divider. We have paid a heavy toll in terms of day to day livability by modifying our living space to try to keep the peace with these stupid cats, and balancing it with them attempting to kill themselves by eating human things that are bad for cats. You'd think after the 3rd bout of explosive diarrhea that they'd learn not to eat bread, but these little fuckers seem to CRAVE IT.

Asi can't jump as high as Vuli, but both cats have worked together to get access to human food in the past. Asi's annoying behavior since October or so is that she discovered how to open the lovely apartment closet doors that just pop shut without having a latch or a real door handle. Oh she has also taken to eating paper, cardboard, tape, plastic, bits of string, rubber bands, and I even caught her crunching on a piece of crystal litter she found on the floor once, but that's beside the point.


We now shut these doors every single time one of us goes upstairs, because Asi neurotically opens every door, all the time.

So, door opening, and them having access to downstairs at night created this scenario. Here are the last 3 failed attempts to stop the poo poo rats from eating poo poo.

Problem: Asiago demonstrated she could open the pantry by pawing at the door.
Solution #1: Put 10+ small pieces of duct tape into the grooves that the small rollers on top of the doors pop into, making it much more difficult to open and close those doors.


This held for 2 weeks, until one morning we came down to find the pantry open, and found a shredded bag buns on the floor, and puddles of diarrhea in the cat box.

Solution #2: A parallel problem to the door opening, was the cats chewing at the exposed portion of trash bag around the neck of our old trash can. The fix for both was to buy a heavy metal 15+ lb trash can from Sam's club. The bags are concealed, so nothing to eat at the outside, and the cats aren't capable of knocking it over. We would simply put the can outside the pantry where the doors meet, and Asi wasn't strong enough to pull the doors open. This held for one-two weeks, until we came down one morning to find they somehow slid the can out of the way and still popped the pantry open, and ate more bread.

Solution #3: Add a room divider to the trash can defense for the pantry. I mean, we already have to move one room divider to go into the kitchen, or another room divider to water my plants in the den, so what's another loving room divider to move anytime I want to eat?



This too held for a week or so, until this morning.


I recreated this for the sake of a photo. Last night they SOMEHOW pulled the side of the room divider with the trashcan leaning on it, somehow got behind it and pulled popped the door open, and somehow squeezed inside the pantry with the combined weight leaning on the door.

We found partially eaten bags of buns and tortillas on the floor of the pantry, and both cats have squired liters of liquid diarrhea poo poo since before we woke up today. Asi just squirted some in front of the fireplace, because gently caress. YOU. HUMANS
........................

In retrospect, not locking them in the small bedroom at night was the single underlying cause of this. Starting tonight, we will move their always-plugged in pet heating pads into the guest bedroom, and we will let them out in the morning. I will also pull the washing machine out of that laundry closet and ram it in front of the bedroom door, because Asi gets hulk strength when she wants to be a little rear end in a top hat.

If I don't, I imagine that the next escalation of their bad behavior is to to start ripping copper plumbing out of the walls and cooking meth under the sink. God drat cats.

hasegawa fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Jan 20, 2021

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

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Vuli's biggest bad behavior is jumping on the kitchen counter, even during meal prep. We lined the serving bar around the kitchen with 5 gallon water jugs so they can't jump on top, and use an ikea room divider to block the main entrance to the kitchen. Every time we go into the kitchen now, we have to move the god drat room divider. We have paid a heavy toll in terms of day to day livability by modifying our living space to try to keep the peace with these stupid cats, and balancing it with them attempting to kill themselves by eating human things that are bad for cats. You'd think after the 3rd bout of explosive diarrhea that they'd learn not to eat bread, but these little fuckers seem to CRAVE IT.

Having just dealt with this issue what worked for me was putting aluminum foil on all the counters. I legit had to leave it for a week before the little one learned. The first few days she would tempt it and would sometimes find a little spot she could get on.

It’s a huge pain in the rear end but it seems to have fixed the issue.

Also the counters are pretty usable with the foil on it so it’s not the biggest inconvenience.

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Boogalo
Jul 8, 2012

Meep Meep




hasegawa posted:

Hi Cat thread,

"Cats too smert problems"

Y'all need some babyproofing locks. There are lots of kinds but these are probably the most sturdy and unreachable for a cat. It needs one little screw hole for each door which is easy to patch up when you move out.

https://www.amazon.com/Pack-GlideLok-Babyproofing-Childproofing-Interior/dp/B00BTLLA6M

There are also types which just latch the handles together so the doors can't be opened. In my experience (when I was smol) they do allow for a little gap between the doors still and I'd worry about a cat getting it open too far and getting stuck/squished so it would need to be tested well on yours.

https://www.amazon.com/Child-Safety-Sliding-Cabinet-Locks/dp/B072N9NY33

I've not used either of these for cat proofing but if needed I would try the over-door type first.

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