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Nebakenezzer posted:I can also tell you that the Australians were good at jury rigging stuff; or at least the Australian squadron flying Short Sunderlands were. The Browning .303 was kinda underwhelming for shooting down airplanes, so the Australians would swap them out with .50 cals when they could lay hands on them. When the U-boats started staying on the surface to fight back, the aussies up-gunned their Sunderland's nose turret with .50s and mounted extra guns in nose mounts to "suppress" the German gun crews. The Aussies also built a tank with a hull mounted water cooled machine gun, complete with cast cover. 
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SimonCat posted:The Aussies also built a tank with a hull mounted water cooled machine gun, complete with cast cover. All guns are phallic, but this one is the  est I've ever seen.
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If the enemy didn't die from laughter the machine gun would finish the job.
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Never change, Australia.
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TheFluff posted:All the Swedish Air Force Historic Flight's currently flyable jets lined up in one shot. Closest to the camera J 29 Tunnan, then J 34 Hawker Hunter, Sk 60 (tail number 14, mostly hidden behind the Hunter), Sk 35C Draken and AJS 37 Viggen. And a DC-3. What made my day was that the Swedish Air Force Historic Flight's also attended. Haven't seen a flying Draken since my childhood and can say that I'm not the only one who got a bit teary-eyed about it. While a a planned Bf-109 flight was canceled, they filled the slot with a Viggen demonstrating that awesome thrust-reversal supported ability to land, turn around and blast off again. Wouldn't really have appreciated that without this thread, thanks.
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just got back from the NY airshow at Stewart, the fuckin Thunderbirds rule.... until one broke  also the Navy F-18 demo team was having none of the Air Force's shenanigans and the dude decided to just run 8 consecutive high speed passes at the end of his set because gently caress everything that's why e- one was real sketchy, too, even I winced when the cone started to become visible in the condensation
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VikingSkull posted:also if you were one of the slack jawed yokels that stood up to get a better view at an air show I hate you so much right now I want to straight publicly execute anyone who has a front row seat and stands up. It's so common.
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mlmp08 posted:I want to straight publicly execute anyone who has a front row seat and stands up. It's so common. dude I was 2nd row too so you nailed it e- also gently caress the 20 foot long camera nerds taking blurry pictures no one wants to see in the most self-important way possible
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VikingSkull posted:just got back from the NY airshow at Stewart, the fuckin Thunderbirds rule.... until one broke Aww, I'm going tomorrow. What happened? Like an airplane broke during flight, or what? Also, how were the static displays? edit: Don't they have a special section for people with lens envy? Were you in the VIP tent? Effective-Disorder fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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The Russian Supreme Court has upheld a conviction against a blogger who correctly noted that the Soviet Union jointly invaded Poland with the Nazi government in 1939.
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hobbesmaster posted:It's not peak Canada-fail until Bombardier is involved. Also something about how this wouldn't have happened if only they'd built the Arrow.
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Sperglord Actual posted:The Russian Supreme Court has upheld a conviction against a blogger who correctly noted that the Soviet Union jointly invaded Poland with the Nazi government in 1939. Ah but you see at Nuremberg the Nazis were convicted of that invasion therefore its not Stalin/the USSR's fault. The allies were kinda angry that the Soviets went full on show trial at times at Nuremberg...
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VikingSkull posted:dude I was 2nd row too so you nailed it I went to an airshow at Rochester airport with my then-girlfriend a few years back, and there were no seats; we just brought lawn chairs and a picnic blanket and sat right up at the front by the fence.
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Effective-Disorder posted:Aww, I'm going tomorrow. What happened? Like an airplane broke during flight, or what? Don't worry, nothing serious. He landed, the other guys kept flying, and then 6 popped back up and rejoined them. The static displays were kinda light, but you can crawl through a C-17, and there's a B-1 there, so I mean, c'mon. Plus Panchito might be the sexiest polished aircraft around. Mortabis posted:I went to an airshow at Rochester airport with my then-girlfriend a few years back, and there were no seats; we just brought lawn chairs and a picnic blanket and sat right up at the front by the fence. Same setup as Stewart. e- bonus points: I got a Lockheed shirt with the Raptor on it, on the back there's a picture of the Raptor and under it it says "The ISIS Solution (you're welcome)" I mean, how could I not buy that? e- also each day last year (the first they had this show) they drew like 30,000 people a day. If there were 50,000 people there yesterday, that's a light estimate. I'm so happy this show has been a success. Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 10:58 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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VikingSkull posted:e- bonus points: I got a Lockheed shirt with the Raptor on it, on the back there's a picture of the Raptor and under it it says "The ISIS Solution (you're welcome)" You should have gotten one with a picture of a Bronco instead. Unless Daesh suddenly acquired some modern integrated air defense system and a competent crew to man it? Boasting that the Raptor is what's needed to bomb a pickup in the middle of the desert is like boasting that a Formula 1 car is what's needed to do grocery shopping. I mean, sure, you could drive to the mall in one, as it's in probably physically feasible, but...
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Also, it's worth mentioning that the psycho Hornet pilot was callsign MacGruber
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Cat Mattress posted:You should have gotten one with a picture of a Bronco instead. Hey, it's the most combat the Raptor is likely to see.
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SimonCat posted:Hey, it's the most combat the Raptor is likely to see. I hope so.
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Hello everyone. Thanks for your WW3 book suggestions. I ordered a bunch off Amazon. Now I have a need for WW2 Pacific Theatre Books. Air/Navy preferable, Ive already read a bunch of Marine stuff
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Phi230 posted:Hello everyone. Thanks for your WW3 book suggestions. I ordered a bunch off Amazon. Shattered Sword, of course, though that's only one major battle.
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Phi230 posted:Hello everyone. Thanks for your WW3 book suggestions. I ordered a bunch off Amazon. Shattered Sword, previously mentioned, is the canonical one alongside The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors. Symonds' The Battle of Midway is more personal narrative to Shattered Sword's analytical approach, but also worth reading. Surface and Destroy: The Submarine Gun War in the Pacific is a good one about a little-explored aspect of the Pacific submarine war. In Harm's Way is more about the drifting Indianapolis survivors than any military action but merits a mention, and there was a good one I read about the Battle of Savo Island and the name escapes me at the moment, You mentioned that you've already read a bunch of Marine stuff, but Given Up For Dead is a good one on the very brief early Battle of Wake Island it does not have a happy ending hogmartin fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Sep 4, 2016 |
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Silent Victory by Clay Blair is great regarding the submarine warfare. Details most actions by US submarines as well as the torpedo problem. He also wrote a 5-6 long series regarding the German submarine war in the Atlantic during WW2. https://www.amazon.com/Silent-Victory-Submarine-against-Bluejacket/dp/155750217X
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Cardiac posted:Silent Victory by Clay Blair is great regarding the submarine warfare. Details most actions by US submarines as well as the torpedo problem. This is a really great book, but beware that it gets a little dry in sections. He details each patrol, and sometimes has little ancillary information to make it interesting, falling back on what was attacked, what was claimed, and what was confirmed after the war for a dozen pages at a time. At Dawn We Slept is an excellent mostly-firsthand account of the Pearl Harbor attack. Was also my first book exposure to WWII history, as a kid.
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Japanese Destroyer Captain is an excellent memoir by Tameichi Hara, one of the better destroyer captains in the IJN. Most of the book deals with the nighttime cruiser/destroyer knife fights in the Solomons after Midway, and he really digs into the tactical level and how destroyer combat changed before and after the Allies really learned how to use radar. He also wrote the IJN's prewar torpedo manual so there is a lot of interesting content about the famous Long Lance torpedoes. And of course, the psychological stress of leading men into battle when it's increasingly clear you're on the losing side. There are a lot of books about the Solomons naval battles but this is one of the only ones I've found from the Japanese side, and it's excellent.
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SimonCat posted:Hey, it's the most combat the Raptor is likely to see. I'm a lot less sure of that than I was in 2005. Especially when you think about how the F-22 is the frontline fighter until the 2040s+.
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gohuskies posted:Japanese Destroyer Captain is an excellent memoir by Tameichi Hara, one of the better destroyer captains in the IJN. Most of the book deals with the nighttime cruiser/destroyer knife fights in the Solomons after Midway, and he really digs into the tactical level and how destroyer combat changed before and after the Allies really learned how to use radar. He also wrote the IJN's prewar torpedo manual so there is a lot of interesting content about the famous Long Lance torpedoes. And of course, the psychological stress of leading men into battle when it's increasingly clear you're on the losing side. This one is an interesting read. Just be warned that while Hara was candid about the IJN's brutal discipline and had plenty of praise for his American adversaries, he was definitely in denial about Japan's conduct in China.
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I loved Japanese Destroyer Captain, amazing what the Solomon's campaign looks like from the other side. American forces were like aliens, adapting and getting new technology...
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Baloogan posted:I loved Japanese Destroyer Captain, amazing what the Solomon's campaign looks like from the other side. American forces were like aliens, adapting and getting new technology... I remember reading about Leyte, IIRC BB Yamashiro was just firing blindly into the night while taking fire from USN BBs that had great fire control radar. Yamashiro couldn't see poo poo and sank without ever even knowing where the enemy was. Also PT boats creating a gauntlet of torpedoes
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I call this the, "lets pretend that the Marine Super Cobra, Sea Cobra, and Zulu Viper don't already exist" gambit. https://warisboring.com/u-s-army-attack-helicopters-could-take-on-iranian-missile-boats-dfc2894655f8
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Baloogan posted:I loved Japanese Destroyer Captain, amazing what the Solomon's campaign looks like from the other side. American forces were like aliens, adapting and getting new technology... Yeah, Vella Gulf is a serious oh poo poo moment because the US had all these advantages and finally really put them together, and the Japanese had been losing the war with their victories, let alone something like that.
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Reading DD captain. First few chapters about how he is a total nerd and cant talk to women
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B4Ctom1 posted:I call this the, "lets pretend that the Marine Super Cobra, Sea Cobra, and Zulu Viper don't already exist" gambit. The Army already stations AH-64s in Kuwait, adding Cobras would be redundant.
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B4Ctom1 posted:I call this the, "lets pretend that the Marine Super Cobra, Sea Cobra, and Zulu Viper don't already exist" gambit. Or back up to that, it obviously takes special training to operate from a ship, why not give Army aviators practice and institutional knowledge?
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I wonder if the radar equipped Longbow Apaches would have any extra advantage over open water, extra detection and engagement range? Have no idea of the range for a radar guided hellfire is significantly further than laser etc. Optics are pretty good and FLIR might be better than radar for picking up patrol ships in choppy seas idk.
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The Apache is designed to track and engage multiple armored vehicles at once, that translates to small boats very handily.
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priznat posted:I wonder if the radar equipped Longbow Apaches would have any extra advantage over open water, extra detection and engagement range? We already employ hellfires from sea based choppers, mainly the Cobra and the Seahawk. Apaches at sea would be redundant really. I mean at sea, tge helos get vectors from much more powerful surface search radars of their host ships
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Phi230 posted:We already employ hellfires from sea based choppers, mainly the Cobra and the Seahawk. Apaches at sea would be redundant really. It's not redundant if there are already Apaches in the Gulf. You'd have to bring in the Cobras and that would duplicate the capability already there. No one is talking about stationing Apaches on ships outside of that particular scenario.
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SimonCat posted:It's not redundant if there are already Apaches in the Gulf. You'd have to bring in the Cobras and that would duplicate the capability already there. Yes, but it seems like folks are underestimating what it would take to do that as a "normal" thing.
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