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Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

I've got a weird-but-fun bug where one of my rangers ALWAYS has the second (throwing) axe, even when equipped with a ranger sword or the katana. It's usable in missions, too.
But it's only one out of like five or six rangers.

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MOVIE MAJICK
Jan 4, 2012

by Pragmatica
I'm doing commander Ironman and got to the point where I killed my first chosen and the game is straight easy mode now, help. Any mods that can fix the later game challenge?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
So when do the second and third chosen start rearing their heads? Is it when you expand to new regions or is it simply a progression of time.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Hunt11 posted:

So when do the second and third chosen start rearing their heads? Is it when you expand to new regions or is it simply a progression of time.

I'm thinking the regions they show up in are randomized, because I've got bot the Assassin and Warlock on my rear end, and I haven't expanded out of North America yet.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

They show up when you expand to a region they control/influence. Which can mean you won't seen more than one for a while, or it can mean the assholes are boxing in your starting region so you can't do any missions at all without the risk of one showing up.

Guess which one happened to me!

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Gravy Jones posted:

Living on the edge by occasionally having two specialists :cool:

I have been enjoying boosting my specialists by spending ability points so that all of them are both hackers and medics, so now I always take at least one and sometimes two specialists.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Do the Chosen show up on timed missions? That would be hell!

At the moment I've only had them show up twice on non-timed missions after my initial attack. I hope that's the norm.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet
Yes, they showed up on my hack the thing mission.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

snoremac posted:

Do the Chosen show up on timed missions? That would be hell!

At the moment I've only had them show up twice on non-timed missions after my initial attack. I hope that's the norm.

They do, but the game usually pauses the timer once you engage them.

Captain Oblivious
Oct 12, 2007

I'm not like other posters

veni veni veni posted:

Posted a few up about this but I can't figure out how to hack this thing for the life of me. Is it bugged or is there something I don't understand about this objective? Am I supposed to do more than just stand near it and use a hack prompt? I can't get anything to pop up.


If you don't have a Specialist, Reaper, or SPARK you cannot hack the objective and did not bring the people necessary to win.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Captain Oblivious posted:

If you don't have a Specialist, Reaper, or SPARK you cannot hack the objective and did not bring the people necessary to win.

You can hack with anyone

You just have 0 chance to score bonuses and have to be immediately adjacent to the item with non-specialist/sparks

Source: hacked several things with rangers. They just whip out their Xpad. There's a lot of questionable design decisions in the game but they made sure you aren't actually locked out from being able to do something if you're short a certain class.

Sloober fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Sep 14, 2017

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Sloober posted:

You can hack with anyone

You just have 0 chance to score bonuses and have to be immediately adjacent to the item with non-specialist/sparks

Source: hacked several things with rangers. They just whip out their Xpad. There's a lot of questionable design decisions in the game but they made sure you aren't actually locked out from being able to do something if you're short a certain class.
The problem is they don't have a hack tile to do the mission objective

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Sloober posted:

You can hack with anyone

You just have 0 chance to score bonuses and have to be immediately adjacent to the item with non-specialist/sparks

Source: hacked several things with rangers. They just whip out their Xpad. There's a lot of questionable design decisions in the game but they made sure you aren't actually locked out from being able to do something if you're short a certain class.

You have a more than 0 chance, it just feels like it since the percentages are so low. One time I did have a ranger succeed and get the +20 to hacking skills with their Xpad.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

veni veni veni posted:

Posted a few up about this but I can't figure out how to hack this thing for the life of me. Is it bugged or is there something I don't understand about this objective? Am I supposed to do more than just stand near it and use a hack prompt? I can't get anything to pop up.


I seem to recall a similar bug in vanilla. IIRC, the access square is under a piece of furniture, which prevents you from getting to it. Carefully targeted explosives may or may not help.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

temple posted:

The problem is they don't have a hack tile to do the mission objective

yeah i know, i think that mission is bugged (the response was directed at saying can only hack with spark/spec/reaper)

I was just saying you cannot be screwed from hacking so the only real explanation is the op is bugged. I think hack objectives only have one accessible square, and judging by the way the laptop is pointing it's under that furniture. (as noted above)

Sloober fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Sep 14, 2017

Bakalakadaka
Sep 18, 2004

I happened to have 4 rangers ready to go for a first retaliation and wouldn't you know it the warlock was brittle. :getin:

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Just fought two chosen in a row. The first one was the hunter during a advent raid which thankfully worked out okay as while he can heal after every turn and was immune to explosions, he is also brittle so I was able to one round him after slowly chewing my way towards him. The second one was the assassin during the first black site mission which turned into a turkey shoot. So on top of a building I wiped out two separate pods of advent and an almost entire lost horde when the final lost revealed her position before being killed by my overwatch. Thanks to her having the grounded weakness it was quite easy to butcher her as well.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


temple posted:

The problem is they don't have a hack tile to do the mission objective

Yeah they do. I've used rangers to hack objectives many times.

I think it is just bugged.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)
Anyone having issues sending soldiers on the "Improve Combat Intelligence" covert op? I have a Templar and a Skirmisher at full will and neither of them are valid picks for the op.

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Cheston posted:

Anyone having issues sending soldiers on the "Improve Combat Intelligence" covert op? I have a Templar and a Skirmisher at full will and neither of them are valid picks for the op.

If they are already at savant, then they can't take the op.

Lima
Jun 17, 2012

Hero classes can't improve their combat intelligence for some reason.

Canuck-Errant
Oct 28, 2003

MOOD: BURNING - MUSIC: DISCO INFERNO BY THE TRAMMPS
Grimey Drawer

Lima posted:

Hero classes can't improve their combat intelligence for some reason.

As usual, there's a mod for that.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001
Very rarely when an enemy pod activates on the enemy turn one of them gets to take a shot. Any idea what exactly causes this? Is it if they have your soldier flanked or something?

Dr. Stab
Sep 12, 2010
👨🏻‍⚕️🩺🔪🙀😱🙀

Leyburn posted:

Very rarely when an enemy pod activates on the enemy turn one of them gets to take a shot. Any idea what exactly causes this? Is it if they have your soldier flanked or something?

Yes. It's a bad rule. It's meant to counter a certain strategy, but it actually just punishes being discovered at all.

Paingod556
Nov 8, 2011

Not a problem, sir

Commander campaign is done. Solid as gently caress. Went into the final mission with a Templar and two PsiOps who breezed through everything. Turns out because the mission automatically forces you to start Phase 2 once the regular alien pods are killed, means you lose whatever mind controlled aliens you had.


Now that the weapon mods are up and running, time to Legendary/Ironman this poo poo...



We need a 'gun held high above head' pose ASAP.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Leyburn posted:

Very rarely when an enemy pod activates on the enemy turn one of them gets to take a shot. Any idea what exactly causes this? Is it if they have your soldier flanked or something?

I have a dark event that gives them a chance of free reaction shot during activation.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

Leyburn posted:

Very rarely when an enemy pod activates on the enemy turn one of them gets to take a shot. Any idea what exactly causes this? Is it if they have your soldier flanked or something?

Yeah, its designed to counter people conga-lining their dudes without cover and putting them in overwatch so they'd get 2 turns against patrolling enemies. If they patrol into flanked people they might take a shot instead of scattering.

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
Literally commented as the anti-Beaglerush maneuver in the code.

Leyburn
Aug 31, 2001

Zore posted:

Yeah, its designed to counter people conga-lining their dudes without cover and putting them in overwatch so they'd get 2 turns against patrolling enemies. If they patrol into flanked people they might take a shot instead of scattering.

Just the idea of not having my dudes in cover makes me feel queasy so it's only ever happened to me a couple of times.

Sloober
Apr 1, 2011

Leyburn posted:

Just the idea of not having my dudes in cover makes me feel queasy so it's only ever happened to me a couple of times.

I only do it when i have a marker reaper that's eyed up the area

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Paingod556 posted:

urns out because the mission automatically forces you to start Phase 2 once the regular alien pods are killed, means you lose whatever mind controlled aliens you had.


Well that's a bullshit change from vanilla.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)

Oh, sweet! Thanks.

Emberfox
Jan 15, 2005

~rero rero rero rero rero
The new type of retaliation can get PRETTY nasty. If you aren't moving fast enough, more and more enemies will start murdering civilians instead of doing it 1/turn, to the point of completely ignoring your troops, even if they're out of cover.

I almost hope Chosen do show up during it because it seems to reduce the amount of pods you have to fight, and they're usually more interested in you than murdering civvies.

Hats Wouldnt Fly
Feb 9, 2010

.
Redfont is my hero.

Leyburn posted:

Very rarely when an enemy pod activates on the enemy turn one of them gets to take a shot. Any idea what exactly causes this? Is it if they have your soldier flanked or something?

It's important to note, this only happens if you get flanked on an activation while concealed. If they flank you and you're not in concealment they won't shoot, meaning that old school overwatch conga lines still work if you have unlimited time, so long as your team has already engaged one pod.

snoremac
Jul 27, 2012

I LOVE SEEING DEAD BABIES ON 𝕏, THE EVERYTHING APP. IT'S WORTH IT FOR THE FOLLOWING TAB.
Playing on PS4 so can't get a mod, but I'd like it if having aliens revealed by a concealed ranger/reaper also revealed the tiles where unconcealed soldiers will be spotted by them.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Leyburn posted:

Just the idea of not having my dudes in cover makes me feel queasy so it's only ever happened to me a couple of times.

The worst is when a pod you never saw patrols into your concealed squad from a flanking position, then they get a free shot on one of your guys. I wasn't even trying to cheese the game please dont punish me


Ornamented Death posted:

Well that's a bullshit change from vanilla.

this was the same in vanilla iirc

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

snoremac posted:

Playing on PS4 so can't get a mod, but I'd like it if having aliens revealed by a concealed ranger/reaper also revealed the tiles where unconcealed soldiers will be spotted by them.

Does PS4 have the "target preview" command? That can get you an idea.

Deuce
Jun 18, 2004
Mile High Club

CharlestonJew posted:

The worst is when a pod you never saw patrols into your concealed squad from a flanking position, then they get a free shot on one of your guys. I wasn't even trying to cheese the game please dont punish me


this was the same in vanilla iirc

Yeah but if you were on overwatch that's a free shooting gallery with your full squad PLUS your entire turn to wipe them out

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

CharlestonJew posted:

this was the same in vanilla iirc


It wasn't on PC (which I assume the OP is on since he was talking about weapon mods). I loved taking my gatekeeper and andromedon buddies into the last room to soak up shots.

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Darkrenown
Jul 18, 2012
please give me anything to talk about besides the fact that democrats are allowing millions of americans to be evicted from their homes
Yes it was. Well, it wasn't in the release version, but it was added is some patch early enough that I was still playing when it got changed.

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