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FMguru posted:should have created an limited liability shell company (with your name) and had it take out the student loans on your behalf quote:The program doesn't provide more than 5% of its benefits during the year for shareholders or owners (or their spouses or dependents). A shareholder or owner is someone who owns (on any day of the year) more than 5% of the stock or of the capital or profits interest of your business. only murdocks and cock bros are allowed to generate billions in loophole. no poors allowed in MY tax codes
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Sagebrush posted:similarly, salt only gives you hypertension if you have lovely genes. if you don't have the predisposition to sodium sensitivity you don't have to worry about your intake as long as it's below the lethal dose unfortunately there's not a good way to test for this
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:unfortunately there's not a good way to test for this *check blood pressure* seems p simple
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the dietary guidelines for salt strike me as slightly insane because i think there's like one country in the entire goddamn world that's considered to be meeting those, and if i remember right it's a country that's pretty severely impoverished and food-insecure. america doesn't even crack the top twenty.
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FMguru posted:*eat a salt-heavy diet for 20 years* but how do i control for fatness
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the dietary guidelines for salt strike me as slightly insane because i think there's like one country in the entire goddamn world that's considered to be meeting those, and if i remember right it's a country that's pretty severely impoverished and food-insecure. japan has one of the highest salt intakes and crazy long lifespans
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Dec 12, 2018 00:37
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Wheany posted:all i know is that if you're not eating utz, you're eating butts
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Dec 12, 2018 00:39
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Doesn't AOL still have tons of people inexplicably paying for dial-up internet?
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mystes posted:Doesn't AOL still have tons of people inexplicably paying for dial-up internet? also i love that even yospos is smarter than people running hudnred billion dollar companies because anyone here could have loving said yahoo and aol were awful purchases. but heyoo doesnt matter since they can write it off for $$ if it failed (it did)
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qirex posted:japan has one of the highest salt intakes and crazy long lifespans they also have a lotta pension fraud and stomach cancer really the best way to live a long time is to be rich - in america that adds a decade and a half
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the dietary guidelines for salt strike me as slightly insane because i think there's like one country in the entire goddamn world that's considered to be meeting those, and if i remember right it's a country that's pretty severely impoverished and food-insecure. the dietary guidelines are pretty much all like, based around stuff for people with existing issues aggravated by sodium intake yeah Xaris posted:yes but not not always actual dialup, theres "AOL DSL". also most dont use it for service but they have an @aol.com email they keep paying for because oldes are frightened and scared of sending out "hey everyone, heres my new senileshriveleddickboomer@gmail.com email, please email me there for now on" emails one of the main things yahoo still did/i guess oath still does, is to run the email backends for a shitload of other isps and websites. it's why yahoo was able to have data leaks a few years back that affected 3 billion accounts or something, they ran email for so many others
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Dec 12, 2018 00:59
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fishmech posted:the dietary guidelines are pretty much all like, based around stuff for people with existing issues aggravated by sodium intake yeah yeah thats loving terrifying lmao imagine using loving yahoo as your email backend/ jfc
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:the dietary guidelines for salt strike me as slightly insane because i think there's like one country in the entire goddamn world that's considered to be meeting those, and if i remember right it's a country that's pretty severely impoverished and food-insecure. q.v. that harvard study that came out recently purportedly showing that the healthy number of french fries to eat at a sitting is six.
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Dec 12, 2018 01:05
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Xaris posted:yeah thats loving terrifying lmao heres a short list of major isps that use yahoo as their email backend: verizon (of course, since they bought them) at&t frontier rogers (canada) bt (uk) sky (uk) also all the old aol accounts are now on the yahoo backend service as a result of the merger
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the first thing my nutritionist did when I showed up with hepatic steatosis was cut me from 2% milk to 1% (she’s against skimmed because vitamin d absorption or something) long story short I’m down 25 lbs in six months and it’s probably because of that one thing also a strict diet and gym three times a week but mostly the 1% milk yeah
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Dec 12, 2018 01:09
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who still uses their isp for email? olds, ok sure but who else?
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Dec 12, 2018 01:10
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more like hepatic steakosis
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Dec 12, 2018 01:10
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Xaris posted:yes but not not always actual dialup, theres "AOL DSL". also most dont use it for service but they have an @aol.com email they keep paying for because oldes are frightened and scared of sending out "hey everyone, heres my new senileshriveleddickboomer@gmail.com email, please email me there for now on" emails these are the words of somebody who didn't have to deal with AT&T Broadband buying Excite@Home in 1999 and then Comcast buying AT&T Broadband in 2002
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Dec 12, 2018 01:14
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pseudorandom name posted:these are the words of somebody who didn't have to deal with AT&T Broadband buying Excite@Home in 1999 and then Comcast buying AT&T Broadband in 2002 during the time excite@home existed, there was also like comcast@home, cox@home etc and on some of those you'd have some sort of @home email as well as an @comcast email etc also there was tci@home customers who got bought by att cable and were att@home for a bit and then became regular att and then got bought by comcast poo poo was weird and hosed up
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Dec 12, 2018 01:18
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quote:Verizon’s Media business, branded Oath, has experienced increased competitive and market pressures throughout 2018 that have resulted in lower than expected revenues and earnings. These pressures are expected to continue and have resulted in a loss of market positioning to our competitors in the digital advertising business. Oath has also achieved lower than expected benefits from the integration of the Yahoo Inc. and AOL Inc. businesses. Effective August 1, 2018, Hans Vestberg became Chief Executive Officer of Verizon, and effective October 1, 2018, K. Guru Gowrappan was appointed Chief Executive Officer of the Media business. So, let me see if I got this: 2010: AoL buys Huffpost for $315 million 2013: Yahoo buys Tumblr for $1.1 billion (the PDF Killer!) 2015: Verizon buys AOL for $4.4 billion 2016: Verizon buys Yahoo for $4.8 billion so thats $10,600,000,000 in real money 2017: Verizon created oath, says Oath is worth about $4.8 billion 2018: Verizon says the Oath is really only worth about $200 million? 0.2 Tumblr 0.04 AOLs/Yahoos 0.6 Huffposts So, does this mean that once these very real companies with very real accounting practices got ahold of these tech companies they realized the ad bubble online was worthless? Also, how does this square with people who work at Yahoo? I assume this write down isn't "Yahoo is worth 100 million to us" but the brand oath is only worth $200m on the open market? Also also: quote:The Verizon media unit's poor performance led the company to make "unfavorable adjustments to Oath's financial projections" for the next five years. So what happens to Yahoo now? They shut it down? Spin it off? Sell it? They're already killing Tumblr (LOL the timing on that and this announcement is amazing).
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of course the "oath" brand has no value, Verizon hasn't done anything to promote "oath" and it doesn't have the 30 or 25 years of name recognition of yahoo or AOL
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pseudorandom name posted:these are the words of somebody who didn't have to deal with AT&T Broadband buying Excite@Home in 1999 and then Comcast buying AT&T Broadband in 2002 I’m curious explain
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Dec 12, 2018 01:32
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oath is a trashcan brand, so all this garbage they bought won't get on verizon's hands
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Xaris posted:I’m curious explain "@home" was a company that cobranded and partially ran isp services for various telephone and cable companies so that they could expand into dsla nd cable internet without really needing to develop in-house email and internet account and all that stuff it fell apart over 2000 and 2001 and many of those companies also sold off their services to other companies - like at one point AT&T operated seperate DSL and cable internet/TV operations in some places, and the cable stuff was mostly bought by Comcast (and to a small extent other companies) which is why AT&T doesn't still offer regular cable/cable internet
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Dec 12, 2018 01:39
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Optimus_Rhyme posted:so thats $10,600,000,000 in real money usually you offer them lots of your stock so generally it's not all real money. but yeah
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Dec 12, 2018 01:51
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Verizon paid $4.4 billion for aol and $4.8 billion for yahoo. They much rather still have $9.2 billion dollars than $9.2 billion of tax deduction. if they’d just bought their own stock they’d have a 16% return lol.
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Xaris posted:I’m curious explain my email address was forcibly changed twice in a three year period and I learned never to use my ISP's email service again paying for an @aol.com address is a perfectly reasonable decision
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qirex posted:oath is a trashcan brand, so all this garbage they bought won't get on verizon's hands i think it goes underappreciated, but your insight into branding is top notch edited from "marketing and advertising" Share Bear fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Share Bear posted:i think it goes underappreciated, but your insight into branding is top notch
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Dec 12, 2018 02:22
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verizon buying aol was pretty funny. the whole company was a shambling hulk propped up by dialup revenue, which by that point had really really fat gross margin. rather than admit that probably the best they could do was let the whole thing die naturally paying dividends for decades, mgmt wanted to pivot to adtech and content. everyone at director and above was obsessed with moonshots that would vault AOL back to the top. never did ofc but that dialup cashflow let them try again, and again, and again
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Dec 12, 2018 03:05
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“new” aol had a brief blip of relevance 10 years ago as a catchall blog owner for a lot of stuff young people were into but Facebook and particularly their false video claims nuked it
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shingy was right about people sitting on their couch with their phones
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:verizon buying aol was pretty funny. the whole company was a shambling hulk propped up by dialup revenue, which by that point had really really fat gross margin. rather than admit that probably the best they could do was let the whole thing die naturally paying dividends for decades, mgmt wanted to pivot to adtech and content. everyone at director and above was obsessed with moonshots that would vault AOL back to the top. never did ofc but that dialup cashflow let them try again, and again, and again the building they leased for a while across the street from their old campus was sad. loudoun county made them take down the banner with the aol logo they put on the side instead of a sign because it was against zoning to have a permanent banner in that office park. 
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hifi posted:shingy was right about people sitting on their couch with their phones what’s the quote?
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El_Elegante posted:what’s the quote? “Do you like the scent?” Shingy said. A diffuser released a fragrance (called London) designed by Tom Dixon into the air. Shingy’s office features another of Dixon’s scents (Orientalist), but Armstrong’s, he pointed out, was newer. “It’s funny,” Armstrong said. “I thought it was the cleaning materials. The cleaning lady was in here last night, and I’m like, ‘I love the smell of this table!’ She was like, ‘Um, O.K.’ ” “I still need to put some sound in here,” Shingy said. Armstrong looked around. “I have meetings here, and people don’t know where to sit,” he said. “They’ll figure it out, man,” Shingy said. He took an Uber car uptown to IPG Mediabrands, an advertising firm, where he was due to give a speech. “I think some folks from Applebee’s are going to be in the house,” he said. “I’m more of a caffeine-free, gluten-free, raw-food sort of guy, but I am able to find something to like in every brand once I hear their story.” He told the Applebee’s people that to make their brand “remarkable, reactive, and relevant” they have to tell stories in real time. Everyone is talking about SoLoMo—social, local, mobile—but they should be talking about HoMo: home/mobile, cell phones used on the couch.
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I can understand a company hiring a "digital prophet" in like 1998, but I really can't understand why he was getting paid for this in 2018.
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