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Tollymain posted:That's the first thing I noticed too. What the hell is it made out of? Thick, viscous mangas.
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Feb 8, 2013 11:23
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So I was surprised that we kept updating normally without getting a flash, but then I realized, that's not exactly what was irking me about it. What surprised me is that, doesn't it seem like, normally a flash would've started rrrright about here? I mean, I can just see us panning up Derse to see the Battleship Condescension and then panning across HIC's bigass hair as the music starts to ramp the Capital F up, but we're doing this "Act 6 Act 5 Act 1 X2 Combo" thing all the way through instead, it'd seem. I guess this must be what Hussie meant when he said something to the effect of "if I didn't do flash pages in Homestuck, I'd be done by now."
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Feb 8, 2013 12:37
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Tollymain posted:That's the first thing I noticed too. What the hell is it made out of? Uh, let me tell you something about Hanzo steel and fine Nipponese craftmanship... maybe you're not actually AWARE of how superior their swords are to our flimsy gaijin butterknives? And furthermore,
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Feb 8, 2013 13:16
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Gnome de plume posted:Oprah must be on cos EVERYONE GETS A GOD TIER Are god tiers guaranteed, if the sleepers and the beds all get blown to bits before they can even fall asleep? I mean, we're also assuming that the beds are actually on Derse and Prospit, just because Jane can hear the rumbling somehow.
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Feb 8, 2013 13:22
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J.theYellow posted:Are god tiers guaranteed, if the sleepers and the beds all get blown to bits before they can even fall asleep? All that is required for the beds is to die on them. Sleeping was never actually part of the deal; Vriska just told John it was so she wouldn't have to say, "By the way, this is totally going to kill you! But trust me, you'll come back." She lied. Quest beds/cocoons/whatever don't require sleep, they require death. Also, they're definitely in Prospit and Derse, did you miss the gold/purple chains? Or the gold and purple ruins around them as they emerge from the explosion? Or ... this entire update? 
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Feb 8, 2013 13:27
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This update is mighty pretty.
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Feb 8, 2013 13:59
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KaosMachina posted:HUSSIE YOU MASSIVE COCKTEASE It's only a tease if we're just about to cut away to something only tangentially related. We've got four god-tier kids who were already very combat-capable, facing down two cosmically powerful minions of Lord English. I'd honestly put the odds of a proper fight scene happening here at 5:1 against.
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Feb 8, 2013 14:24
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Dominic White posted:It's only a tease if we're just about to cut away to something only tangentially related. We've got four god-tier kids who were already very combat-capable, facing down two cosmically powerful minions of Lord English. The other option is that the left screen switches to the meteor and the right screen switches to the battleship.
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Feb 8, 2013 14:39
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dumb brunette posted:Also, they're definitely in Prospit and Derse, did you miss the gold/purple chains? Or the gold and purple ruins around them as they emerge from the explosion? Or ... this entire update? Only raising the question, given how little always is as it seems. But back to the other point, I don't think we've seen the bed get destroyed before the ascension happens, have we?
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Feb 8, 2013 16:05
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J.theYellow posted:Only raising the question, given how little always is as it seems. But back to the other point, I don't think we've seen the bed get destroyed before the ascension happens, have we? Yes, we have. Dave and Rose were obliterated in much the same way these guys were. Those beds seem quite sturdy. If you don't think they're god tier, what do you suppose we're looking at here?
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Feb 8, 2013 16:15
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J.theYellow posted:Only raising the question, given how little always is as it seems. But back to the other point, I don't think we've seen the bed get destroyed before the ascension happens, have we? First off, Aradia, Dave, and Rose all ascended under nearly the exact same circumstances. Secondly, they're right there, what do you think we're seeing? E: F,b
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Feb 8, 2013 16:20
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Ariong posted:If you don't think they're god tier, what do you suppose we're looking at here? Next update the glow fades, only to reveal... ...four blackened skeletons in singed godtier pajamas, which then immediately collapse into piles of bone and ash. The Condesce and Jack sweep them up into little dustpans and dump them unceremoniously into bins, where they become the fat nasty trash they were always destined to be.
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Feb 8, 2013 16:22
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But skeletons aren't fat! I have a problem with this idea.
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Feb 8, 2013 16:44
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That was my first thought too.
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Feb 8, 2013 16:47
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Next update the glow fades, only to reveal... Or rather, three of them ascend properly to god tier but when Jane turns to jake he is nothing but a charred skeleton in a pair of god tier page tights & pants. He collapses into dust and all that's left is what he has always been destined to be - a skull
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Feb 8, 2013 16:52
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Next update the glow fades, only to reveal... Four carapice people; this session's WV, PM, AR, and WQ.
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Feb 8, 2013 17:10
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Bongo Bill posted:But skeletons aren't fat! I have a problem with this idea. We're going to have to check Vriska's skeleton to be sure.
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Feb 8, 2013 17:14
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So what's the point of Jack/Condence helping them go god tier when they can basically wipe the floor with them?
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Feb 8, 2013 17:37
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Truly a legendary sword. The heart of Dirk's bifurcated soul is his bifurcating weapon.
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Feb 8, 2013 17:39
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Guys, the juju was just dropped. What if it survived the explosion? What if we ended up with four god-tier trickers? 
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Feb 8, 2013 17:46
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Fat_Cow posted:So what's the point of Jack/Condence helping them go god tier when they can basically wipe the floor with them?
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Feb 8, 2013 18:04
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Yonic Symbolism posted:Guys, the juju was just dropped. What if it survived the explosion? What if we ended up with four god-tier trickers? Well technically there would only be two since the juju was dropped on prospit. Though I kinda doubt Hussie would revisit the tricksters Edit:this phone is awful senseinobu fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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Feb 8, 2013 18:20
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Edit;Quote is not edit
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Feb 8, 2013 18:28
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They're doing it man. They are making it happen.
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Feb 8, 2013 18:30
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Bongo Bill posted:But skeletons aren't fat! I have a problem with this idea. Of course not; they're just big-boned. RuanGacho posted:Truly a legendary sword. Now I'm wondering if Dirk can't somehow merge with the corpse of his beta-universe self when the battleship kids arrive with the planets.
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Feb 8, 2013 18:55
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Fat_Cow posted:So what's the point of Jack/Condence helping them go god tier when they can basically wipe the floor with them? ...Actually that brings up a thought. What if the game is actually going to (or has been) be in a groundhog day situation. If Caliborn's session is the one right after the Beta-Alpha kid session, that means he's going to go backwards in time to the very beginning. The only way they would be able to stop a situation like that is eliminating Caliborn, but doing it in a way that doesn't cause a time paradox. I'm thinking that's the actual glitch that Lord English is exploiting. He's indestructible because even if he should happen to die in the Beta-Alpha kid session, he's going to be born in the next session and then go backwards and be reborn all over again. It also incorporates the Ouroboros myth, as the snake continues to eat itself in a spiral and never die because of it.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:00
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lotus circle posted:It's part of Lord English's plans I imagine. While Caliborn is mind controlling Jack, Lord English most likely ordered Condesce to make sure the Derse kids ascend. As he's going backwards-forwards he knows everything that is going to happen in this session with help from all the monitors. When you kill a time traveler, you only resign yourself to not killing his past selves when they come for vengeance. How can you think you can kill me, when I am already dead?
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Feb 8, 2013 19:13
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Midnight Raider posted:Of course not; they're just big-boned. They're boned, big times.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:16
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Midnight Raider posted:Now I'm wondering if Dirk can't somehow merge with the corpse of his beta-universe self when the battleship kids arrive with the planets. The hat goes on the head! It's all so obvious now!
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Feb 8, 2013 19:19
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Prison Warden posted:The hat goes on the head! It's all so obvious now! And on the hat? A picture of a shirt ...with a hat on it. #whoa.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:34
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I know this is a lot of drawing work for Hussie and he likes to update fairly regularly, so maybe he just didn't get all the way to drawing them as god-tiers yesterday and will do the rest of the reveal next, but... for some reason, him stopping juuuust before they make their debut makes me really suspicious. It's almost certainly nothing and we're going to see them all god-tiered up soon. Comedy option: next update he cuts away immediately for an intermission.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:41
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I hope all the Alpha and Beta kids being god-tier doesn't result in any non-god tiered trolls being "left behind" in relevance once everyone meets back together.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:46
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Are you implying Karkat will, in fact, become Krillin?
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Feb 8, 2013 19:53
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H.P. Shivcraft posted:Next update the glow fades, only to reveal... Void session.  So maybe Roxy would survive.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:53
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We learned from the Beforans that if a Scratch happens while immortals are in the process of resurrecting, they stay dead because they have nowhere left to resurrect to. But I don't think something like that can happen here.
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Feb 8, 2013 19:54
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Zerilan posted:I hope all the Alpha and Beta kids being god-tier doesn't result in any non-god tiered trolls being "left behind" in relevance once everyone meets back together. There's been some speculation lately that Mituna's sacrifice might have involved psycho-tossing A1 Prospit's moon out of their incipisphere so that it'll eventually end up in the B2 session; it'd naturally include quest slabs for the A1 Prospit dreamers, all of whom had the same aspects as their A2 dancestors - and all of the surviving A2 players were Prospit dreamers. (Including Gamzee, who might of course still be genuinely god tier despite the fake wings. Could have been a double bluff for practically no reason! Clowns.) There are holes in that idea, the biggest I can think of being the question of exactly why Mituna would know to do that and precisely where to aim it when, but it's not completely impossible. Hamiltonian Bicycle fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Feb 8, 2013 |
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Feb 8, 2013 20:07
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:There's been some speculation lately that Mituna's sacrifice might have involved psycho-tossing A1 Prospit's moon out of their incipisphere so that it'll eventually end up in the B2 session; it'd naturally include quest slabs for the A1 Prospit dreamers, all of whom had the same aspects as their A2 dancestors - and all of the surviving A2 players were Prospit dreamers. (Including Gamzee, who might of course still be genuinely god tier despite the fake wings. Could have been a double bluff for practically no reason! Clowns.) There are holes in that idea, the biggest I can think of being the question of exactly why Mituna would know to do that and precisely where to aim it when, but it's not completely impossible. Anyways this is just a weird theory. Why does Mituna have to toss Prospit's moon out of the incipisphere so that it ends up in the B2 session? Prospit and Derse are planets that appear in every session by design, like how every session has the same set of agents. There's no reason to do something like that. Furthermore it's irrelevant because no one ascended in the A2 session except Vriska and MAYBE Gamzee, who knows really.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:30
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:There's been some speculation lately that Mituna's sacrifice might have involved psycho-tossing A1 Prospit's moon out of their incipisphere so that it'll eventually end up in the B2 session; it'd naturally include quest slabs for the A1 Prospit dreamers, all of whom had the same aspects as their A2 dancestors - and all of the surviving A2 players were Prospit dreamers. (Including Gamzee, who might of course still be genuinely god tier despite the fake wings. Could have been a double bluff for practically no reason! Clowns.) There are holes in that idea, the biggest I can think of being the question of exactly why Mituna would know to do that and precisely where to aim it when, but it's not completely impossible. People having to do things without knowing why simply because it's part of their destiny is the very essence of Homestuck, Mituna getting a future-vision saying "Throw the moon thataway!" is child's play.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:31
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lotus circle posted:Aradia is a surviving A2 member and she's a Derse dreamer. But most people forget she exists considering she practically never gets any screen time since she went god tier. Yeah, I wasn't thinking of Aradia because she's not headed for the B2 session and acquired the tiger long ago. Still, though, why would Mituna have to move his session's Prospit moon to another's? That part's easy: because it's needed there if the remaining living non-god trolls are to catch up to the humans. What isn't so easy is filling in the details of what Dolash said above. If this is what happened, where did Mituna's information come from precisely, and how does that work with Aranea's description of what happened to him? There are a few possibilities, none of them terribly tidy at the moment, in my opinion. Presumably we'll get a partial answer if this does turn out to be true. I don't get your idea of irrelevance. Yes, no one ascended in the A2 session except Vriska and Aradia (we still can't be 100% sure about Gamzee but it's harder to argue that he did than that he didn't), and that's exactly why it'd be useful if they could fix that now.
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Feb 8, 2013 20:45
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