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mycot posted:Really once people start using logical fallacy terms that's when threads go to poo poo. Get real mate. Fair enough the derail is unnecessary and not worth having here, but 'false equivalency' is just the educated term for 'not the same thing, even though you're claiming it is' and not at all the internet debating nonsense terminology you're hinting at. Back on topic, it's a shame 24 disappeared up its own arse. Was the 'reboot' series any good? 24 The End fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Sep 26, 2015 |
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The last season of 24 was the best season of the show period.
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Sep 26, 2015 07:36
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Daily reminder that Supernatural is still on the air for some reason If someone has already mentioned Supernatural: go gently caress yourself in the ear
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Sep 26, 2015 07:56
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It's gonna be hilarious to see South Park outlive the Simpsons.
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Sep 26, 2015 14:58
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Heroes. And I'm not talking about season 2 onwards. It should have been canceled in season 1. Everybody on that show was like the most annoying person ever. Except for Ando. He was awesome.
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Sep 26, 2015 16:05
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The End posted:Get real mate. Fair enough the derail is unnecessary and not worth having here, but 'false equivalency' is just the educated term for 'not the same thing, even though you're claiming it is' and not at all the internet debating nonsense terminology you're hinting at. I like using "moving the goalposts" myself but I'm just being entirely honest from observation when that's always the point when internet arguments go to seed.
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Sep 26, 2015 17:17
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computer parts posted:It's gonna be hilarious to see Family Guy outlive the Simpsons. Fixed
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Sep 26, 2015 18:47
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computer parts posted:It's gonna be hilarious to see South Park outlive the Simpsons. I figure the Simpsons will get a 30th season if only to have the most episodes for an American prime time scripted show. Gunsmoke is currently the leader with 635 episodes.
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Sep 26, 2015 18:50
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X-O posted:The last season of 24 was the best season of the show period.
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JediTalentAgent posted:SNL has this tendency of every few years when you've just sort of forgotten about it a new performer or two will show up and the media will declare, "SNL IS BACK with the BEST CAST SINCE THE FIRST SEASON" I'll then tune and and find myself just going, "Oh, this is worse than ever!" Ummmmm.... Did you guys miss the seasons with Tina fey and Amy Poehler? Then Kristin Wiig came in and made me forget about both of them? I haven't had TV in years, but I'd be shocked if the show is currently awful, and if it is, it'll surely get better again.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:35
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Sadly, the one true legacy of P&R is that it made everybody forget how bad Amy Poehler was on SNL.
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Sep 28, 2015 00:56
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Speaking of SNL and one example of a show that was canceled way sooner than it should have been: Fridays. They only had 2 seasons back in the early 80s. Michael Richards was on it as well as Larry David. Man on the Moon with Jim Carrey showed the time Andy Kaufman and Michael Richards got very hostile with each other on live TV... and then Jack Burns almost kicked his rear end. I just saw it for the first time recently (it's on Amazon Prime Video I think?) That show was awesome. Hell, In Living Color was another, but the people who made that show great were getting too famous so ending it only made sense. Watch Fridays if you haven't.
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Sep 28, 2015 01:15
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Shadow posted:Speaking of SNL and one example of a show that was canceled way sooner than it should have been: Fridays. They only had 2 seasons back in the early 80s. Michael Richards was on it as well as Larry David. Man on the Moon with Jim Carrey showed the time Andy Kaufman and Michael Richards got very hostile with each other on live TV... and then Jack Burns almost kicked his rear end. I just saw it for the first time recently (it's on Amazon Prime Video I think?) That show was awesome. I loved that show! I can still remember REO Speedwagon being introduced as 'REO Speedway'. Yes, watch it if you haven't.
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Sep 28, 2015 02:51
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Shadow posted:Hell, In Living Color was another, but the people who made that show great were getting too famous so ending it only made sense. By the time In Living Color went off the air, the Wayanses had all been long gone. I think the cast was mostly white people at that point too.
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Sep 28, 2015 14:42
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Prison Break was/is a never-dying zombie show. They break out of prison in the 21st episode. It continues to air for another 3 seasons for 81 episodes total. Don't worry though, the name still works because characters keep getting locked in prison and need to be broken out. And now, despite the fact that nobody wants it, it's going to get rebooted! Even after they killed one of the main characters in the series finale (spoilers!). Luckily, the show brought so many dead characters back to life during its original run, it would be more surprising if the guy was actually dead.
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Sep 28, 2015 15:19
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Prison Break would have been a great one-season show. Just get rid of the silly conspiracy plot and end it with them escaping and it would have been fine.
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Sep 28, 2015 15:24
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Phylodox posted:Prison Break would have been a great one-season show. Just get rid of the silly conspiracy plot and end it with them escaping and it would have been fine. *homeland
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Sep 28, 2015 15:27
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Phylodox posted:Prison Break would have been a great one-season show. Just get rid of the silly conspiracy plot and end it with them escaping and it would have been fine. Or if they had toned down the sill conspiracy plot in the second season and ended everything in a cohesive manner then. There was no need for that show to go 4 seasons and a stupid made for TV movie
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Sep 28, 2015 15:40
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raditts posted:By the time In Living Color went off the air, the Wayanses had all been long gone. I think the cast was mostly white people at that point too. It had also gotten pretty unfunny from what I recall. Not Mad TV levels of unfunny, but still. Speaking of which, MadTV should have been cancelled... probably after one season. I don't even remember if it was ever funny.
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Sep 28, 2015 16:25
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Irish Joe posted:Sadly, the one true legacy of P&R is that it made everybody forget how bad Amy Poehler was on SNL. SNL is like minor league baseball, it's never good or entertaining on its own merits, the value is in evalutating the players and trying to see who could be funny at some point in the future.
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Sep 28, 2015 17:20
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I assume you mean "post-90s SNL" because Chevy Chase, Steve Martin, Jim Belushi, Eddie Murphy, Chris Farley, Mike Meyers, Dana Carvey, etc etc One could even argue that SNL was the only time Dana Carvey was funny
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Sep 28, 2015 18:06
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Shima Honnou posted:It's been years since I've seen any Real World but reality in general is something that can basically run forever since it's pretty cheap on the whole thing is pretty much just a concept that you can plug different people in with little problems, unless it revolves around a given host or cast of people or something. This is old but to piggyback off the concept: Road Rules was on for 14 seasons, but the Real World/Road Rules Challenge has been on (with various name changes) for 25 seasons. Even after RR was canceled, they had players on 'Team Road Rules' who had never been on the actual show. Also  that Real World is on its 30th season.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:04
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Sheriff posted:Prison Break was/is a never-dying zombie show. They break out of prison in the 21st episode. It continues to air for another 3 seasons for 81 episodes total. Don't worry though, the name still works because characters keep getting locked in prison and need to be broken out. And now, despite the fact that nobody wants it, it's going to get rebooted! Even after they killed one of the main characters in the series finale (spoilers!). Luckily, the show brought so many dead characters back to life during its original run, it would be more surprising if the guy was actually dead. Prison Break had a goofy moment partway through the first season where they had gotten to where they had already finished filming and would originally be the season finale. Except they got good ratings and Fox ordered more episodes, so even though they were actually escaping they had to stop and go back to prison. The weather had also completely changed so outside shots no longer matched up.
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Prison Break season 4 is definitely the most egregious example of a show stretching out long after its original premise expires that i've seen. It involved nobody breaking out of any kind of prison, kept the original cast together, including the guard, for a ludicrous nonsensical reason, and made very little sense even on its own merits.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:37
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Phylodox posted:Prison Break would have been a great one-season show. Just get rid of the silly conspiracy plot and end it with them escaping and it would have been fine. Uh-oh. As long as T-Bag comes back, I'm in.
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Sep 28, 2015 22:53
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Mister Kingdom posted:Uh-oh. Seriously. I watched Prison Break mostly for T-Bag's antics. Also Peter Stormare's character was great, too.
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Sep 28, 2015 23:08
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I'm echoing whoever said 'any live Adult Swim show'. Stayed in a hotel recently that got the channel and it was the most 'lol so random!' garbage. Black Jesus is hilarious though. Everybody watch Black Jesus.
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precision posted:It had also gotten pretty unfunny from what I recall. Not Mad TV levels of unfunny, but still. Mad TV was solid for at least the first two seasons. Then the funny cast members all left and you were left with the characters that didn't leave because they weren't funny enough for anywhere else.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I'm echoing whoever said 'any live Adult Swim show'. Stayed in a hotel recently that got the channel and it was the most 'lol so random!' garbage. Black Jesus is hilarious though. Everybody watch Black Jesus. Have you seen Childrens Hospital? I'm not a fan of the wacky/random Adult Swim style of humor, but I love that ridiculous little show and everyone on it. Most of them have built up a lifetime of goodwill with me, and sometimes it's amazingly clever and ambitious for what they accomplish in 12-minute episodes.
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LadyPictureShow posted:I'm echoing whoever said 'any live Adult Swim show'. Stayed in a hotel recently that got the channel and it was the most 'lol so random!' garbage. Black Jesus is hilarious though. Everybody watch Black Jesus. Love Black Jesus. Especially to see Charlie Murphy being a dick.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Have you seen Childrens Hospital? I'm not a fan of the wacky/random Adult Swim style of humor, but I love that ridiculous little show and everyone on it. Most of them have built up a lifetime of goodwill with me, and sometimes it's amazingly clever and ambitious for what they accomplish in 12-minute episodes. Also its spiritual cousin NTSF:SD:SUV. I want more of that.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:25
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Children's Hospital is loving great and I will fight anyone who says different.
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Sep 29, 2015 01:47
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red19fire posted:Real World is on its 30th season. When the fresh Hell did they do more than one season per year?! I think the last season I watched any of was the sixth? It was the one that had a poetry slam guy on it, and I pretty much only watched it cause he was a friend of mine.
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precision posted:When the fresh Hell did they do more than one season per year?! Probably multiple cities in a single count as different seasons?
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Sep 29, 2015 03:17
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precision posted:When the fresh Hell did they do more than one season per year?! I think they started doing two-a-years around the 10th season or so.
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Snowman_McK posted:Children's Hospital is loving great and I will fight anyone who says different. Let's go.
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Sep 29, 2015 06:39
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Gaunab posted:Let's go. Put 'em up.
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stop it goonicide is a sin 
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Phylodox posted:Prison Break would have been a great one-season show. Just get rid of the silly conspiracy plot and end it with them escaping and it would have been fine. Similarly, The Pretender. The episodic bits were cool, Jarod pretends to be a <profession> in order to expose <injustice>, and also discovers <pop culture>, all while being hunted by the institute he escaped from. The overarching conspiracy was also acceptable, with everybody coming to terms with the fact that everybody else has been lying to them, and some flashbacks suggesting that Jarod was the mind behind certain pivotal events. Unfortunately, at some point the conspiracy climbed up its own rear end and became a Goddamn soap-opera of nothing anybody knew being at all true and everybody being related to everybody else.
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High concept shows tend to run into that problem where you need to tell a story but it can't end because the show needs to go on indefinitely. You saw it with Twin Peaks, which didn't know how to not be about a murder investigation, you saw it with Lost where half the show felt like they made it up as they went along. Even shows that aren't high concept fall into the trap of trying to do too much with their story. House is a great example of a show where they lost sense of what made the show work. Oddly, the more they tried to deal with how House's actions would play out in reality, the show got tougher to watch and harder to accept. It worked best when it was happy to be an offbeat drama with heavy comedic elements instead of the melodrama it became.
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