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Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!

a bone to pick posted:

I think its infinitely funny that the 2 biggest actors in the movie, Forest Whitaker and Madds Milkensen, had a combined screen time of like 10 minutes. My friend said its because they couldn't afford them but this is Disney we're talking about, they could hire whoever they wanted at whatever cost for their movies.

They probably realised that Edwards literally couldn't direct Whitaker and cut his screen time

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dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.
scientology kills.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Guardians of the Galaxy was kind of bad, watched it twice and never felt like I ever wanted to watch it again.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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whyd you watch a movie you didnt like twice m8

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 7 hours!

Zzulu posted:

whyd you watch a movie you didnt like twice m8

For some reason I got it into my head that Avengers wasn't a bad movie so I watched it twice. Yikes!

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.


So what's better?

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Quantum of Phallus posted:

For some reason I got it into my head that Avengers wasn't a bad movie so I watched it twice. Yikes!

Same, happens to me for a lot of Marvel movies.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ashpanash posted:

So what's better?

The Force Awakens, but I'm sure you have lots of reasons you don't like it. And those are perfectly valid.

I think you try to bring too much "objectiveness" to movies from reading your posts. People like different things, it's okay.

Thom and the Heads
Oct 27, 2010

Farscape is actually pretty cool.
has anyone brought up the meatball cthulu mind monster from r1 yet? yknow, the one that makes you "lose your mind"? don't worry though. you can get someones mind back real quick by just saying "hey you're the pilot right?"
:wtc:

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

ashpanash posted:

So what's better?

The Fifth Element was "Star Wars for the 90s," according to the ads.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
GotG was ok, but the Star Lord thing got really grating after a while and the whole thing tried a little too hard to be clever all the time with everybody trying to be funny all the time.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thom and the Heads posted:

has anyone brought up the meatball cthulu mind monster from r1 yet? yknow, the one that makes you "lose your mind"? don't worry though. you can get someones mind back real quick by just saying "hey you're the pilot right?"
:wtc:

I filed that under Mr Suck Air.

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

The Fifth Element was "Star Wars for the 90s," according to the ads.

This is extremely questionable, but it in no way impacts it's greatness.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

WampaLord posted:

The Force Awakens, but I'm sure you have lots of reasons you don't like it. And those are perfectly valid.

I think you try to bring too much "objectiveness" to movies from reading your posts. People like different things, it's okay.

Nah I'm cool with it (Check out my post history in the Westworld thread). Yeah I disagree on TFA but I would like to hear why you didn't like GotG as much, just out of curiosity. Cause how am I going to learn anything if I only hear my own opinion?

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

The Fifth Element was "Star Wars for the 90s," according to the ads.

I find The Fifth Element to be borderline unwatchable. It feels like it was directed by an 8-year-old with ADD on cocaine.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

oohhboy posted:

This is extremely questionable, but it in no way impacts it's greatness.

I was suggesting that GotG cannot be the best Star Wars movie of the last two decades.

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

ashpanash posted:

I find The Fifth Element to be borderline unwatchable. It feels like it was directed by an 8-year-old with ADD on cocaine.

Ok, now you have offended me.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)

ashpanash posted:

Nah I'm cool with it (Check out my post history in the Westworld thread). Yeah I disagree on TFA but I would like to hear why you didn't like GotG as much, just out of curiosity. Cause how am I going to learn anything if I only hear my own opinion?


I find The Fifth Element to be borderline unwatchable. It feels like it was directed by an 8-year-old with ADD on cocaine.

I'm so triggered right now

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

oohhboy posted:

GotG was ok, but the Star Lord thing got really grating after a while and the whole thing tried a little too hard to be clever all the time with everybody trying to be funny all the time.

I think it's to the movie's credit that, realizing this, they made the villain just a straightforward bad guy. People often claim that the villain in the movie "sucks," but a more interesting villain would have taken away from the character building.

I'd note that it's not as if any of the Empire are particularly compelling villains in ANH. (Though I love Peter Cushing's performance.) They only became more interesting in retrospect.

ashpanash
Apr 9, 2008

I can see when you are lying.

a bone to pick posted:

Ok, now you have offended me.

Zzulu posted:

I'm so triggered right now

I think it might be time for a Re:View!

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ashpanash posted:

Nah I'm cool with it (Check out my post history in the Westworld thread). Yeah I disagree on TFA but I would like to hear why you didn't like GotG as much, just out of curiosity. Cause how am I going to learn anything if I only hear my own opinion?

I love GotG. But calling it the "best Star Wars" movie makes no sense. The main character is from Earth, just to start.

Just because a movie is set in space doesn't make it a Star Wars movie. Galaxy Quest is the "best Star Trek movie" because it is clearly referencing Star Trek specifically, not just sci fi.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


stop quoting this everyone already said it was wrong

Krinkle fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Dec 21, 2016

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:

I was suggesting that GotG cannot be the best Star Wars movie of the last two decades.

GotG is movie. It's not Star Wars anymore than The Fifth Element. If they were both SW films, the Fifth Element wins hands down, it was borderline experimental, insane, fun and had just the right amount of plot with excellent pacing. It left you wanting more at the end and I still hunger for more of it today.

ashpanash posted:

I'd note that it's not as if any of the Empire are particularly compelling villains in ANH. (Though I love Peter Cushing's performance.) They only became more interesting in retrospect.

The villain was the monolith that is the Empire. People like Tarkin and Vadar become no more than functionaries themselves in such a large organization with a boss we don't get to see.

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

ashpanash posted:

I'd note that it's not as if any of the Empire are particularly compelling villains in ANH. (Though I love Peter Cushing's performance.) They only became more interesting in retrospect.

The visual design takes care of that. Everything about the Empire as it's presented is so dang cool to look at. Star Destroyers, stormtroopers, Darth Vader, TIE fighters, and the Death Star itself are all striking and memorable. One of the ways that the prequels failed is in not creating any new designs that stick in the mind. Meanwhile, the best the new movies can do is crib from the old ones.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Krinkle posted:

I saw the movie. The entire thing was based on a single loving line from Star Wars.
Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

:lol: wrong loving movie. You're looking for episode 6

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Krinkle posted:

I saw the movie. The entire thing was based on a single loving line from Star Wars.
Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
200 million dollar budget and not a single loving bothan. What the gently caress?

I don't know if this is a joke post but the Many Bothans Died line is referring to Return of the Jedi and the second Death Star.

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


awwwwww gently caress

Hemingway To Go!
Nov 10, 2008

im stupider then dog shit, i dont give a shit, and i dont give a fuck, and i will never shut the fuck up, and i'll always Respect my enemys.
- ernest hemingway
Different people like different little aspects of Star Wars and when they think of something like Star Wars theyll see different things.

Honestly the thing that makes Star Wars and not just a space movie is if the force actually feels mystical. This is one reason why empire is my favorite.
Prequels failed there despite featuring Jedi but they turned it into generic organized religion, gotg just had the infinity stone crossover macguffin that all marvel movies have... tfa is a good start towards what I want.
But to others there's other factors that play in that make gotg more of a Star Wars movie... for instance it might have tried a little hard with its humor at times but it was trying.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

WampaLord posted:

I don't know if this is a joke post but the Many Bothans Died line is referring to Return of the Jedi and the second Death Star.

I have seen people elsewhere make the same mistake in earnest. It's not a joke post.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Bothans died to bring the 2nd death star plans, you fuckboy.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
are we gonna get a prequel movie for teh 2nd deathstar as well, with a bothan main character

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Krinkle posted:

I saw the movie. The entire thing was based on a single loving line from Star Wars.
Many Bothans died to bring us this information.
200 million dollar budget and not a single loving bothan. What the gently caress?

Okay, gently caress the extended universe, you don't want to have a cast of two and a half foot dog people? gently caress what wookiepedia says. Make these people soldiers from the bothan rebel colony. Make bothan a career path in the rebellion. Make them Mon Mothma's Bothans Little League team I don't give a gently caress. Say the loving word Bothan in any context. I will bend over backwards for you to make it work. Nope. No bothans.

I could care less how many EU books toes it steps on but loving Star Wars 1977 should be pretty loving canon.

The camera pauses in the middle of a zoom in on a character, to swerve and focus on loving blue milk, of all things, but no bothans anywhere to be seen.

Bothans got the plans for the second death star. You idiot. gently caress. I had to check wookipedia, do you realise that? Do you understand what I had to do?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSSSS

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer
Despite all my feelings I'm still interested to see where Disney goes with the license- how much gas exactly is in the Star Wars tank? How long will it be before they make a true stinker of a movie? The tFA was great, R1 is probably at the very least competent and fun enough to watch once. They haven't made any grand errors or anything yet.


Krinkle posted:

awwwwww gently caress

hand in your Big Insufferable Internet Movie Dork card right now and get out of here

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Monkey Fracas posted:

Despite all my feelings I'm still interested to see where Disney goes with the license- how much gas exactly is in the Star Wars tank? How long will it be before they make a true stinker of a movie? The tFA was great, R1 is probably at the very least competent and fun enough to watch once. They haven't made any grand errors or anything yet.

Yes, thank you. This is my entire point, the two new movies have been great and good, why is everyone then turning around and going "Ugh, there's gonna be new Star Wars movies for years."

Why bitch in advance? What does that gain you? Will the movies be lovely eventually? Probably, but why don't we wait until they are before complaining.

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Hemingway To Go! posted:

Different people like different little aspects of Star Wars and when they think of something like Star Wars theyll see different things.

Honestly the thing that makes Star Wars and not just a space movie is if the force actually feels mystical. This is one reason why empire is my favorite.
Prequels failed there despite featuring Jedi but they turned it into generic organized religion, gotg just had the infinity stone crossover macguffin that all marvel movies have... tfa is a good start towards what I want.
But to others there's other factors that play in that make gotg more of a Star Wars movie... for instance it might have tried a little hard with its humor at times but it was trying.

TFA went to far with Force Powers. It was like watching a session of D&D. OT was subtle in comparison, the most showboating thing was when the Emperor started tazing Luke to death. Everything else was a sort of boost to existing strength. "these are the droids you are looking for" rides the line, but the execution is subtle and gentle.

Monkey Fracas posted:

Despite all my feelings I'm still interested to see where Disney goes with the license- how much gas exactly is in the Star Wars tank? How long will it be before they make a true stinker of a movie? The tFA was great, R1 is probably at the very least competent and fun enough to watch once. They haven't made any grand errors or anything yet.

TFA drained the tank hard for me. I was quite reluctant in seeing R1, but I did it because we were celebrating a friend's birthday. I was quite surprised how much I liked it compared to how much I don't like TFA. Even so I don't look forward to more for the time being.

Krinkle posted:

awwwwww gently caress

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcz36EfinJw

dreezy
Mar 4, 2015

yeah, rip.
think about star wars like cumming. the original trilogy ranged from top quality head to solid p in v spooge action but that ended in 1983 and you've had decades of blue balls with only 3 very rough and unsatisfying handjobs to try and make you nut but they didn't work. then a skilled twink named JJ gives you a really skilled handjob and you cum 32 years worth of built up cum. but then next year you get another decent handjob but it doesn't really do it for you because you just got one and the handjob in 1999 gave you a venerial disease.

Monkey Fracas
Sep 11, 2010

...but then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you!
Grimey Drawer

WampaLord posted:

Yes, thank you. This is my entire point, the two new movies have been great and good, why is everyone then turning around and going "Ugh, there's gonna be new Star Wars movies for years."

Why bitch in advance? What does that gain you? Will the movies be lovely eventually? Probably, but why don't we wait until they are before complaining.

I think the negative feelings at this point are more because we sorta have a model for what they're going to do with Star Wars- the Marvel Universe movies. It's irrational at this point and nothing but a gut feeling but I'm not looking forward to Star Wars movies becoming tiresome because they keep releasing more and more of them.

There's a chance that they'll handle it gracefully and not milk the setting/universe until nothing but blood is being pulled out of the teat but I feel like we'll eventually get there. Usually when Hollywood smells money they'll just hump any concept to death.

*hisses, jerkily walks backwards on all fours into Pessimism Hole*

FrankeeFrankFrank
Apr 21, 2005

Say word son.

Zzulu posted:

are we gonna get a prequel movie for teh 2nd deathstar as well, with a bothan main character

SERIOUS POST

I want to see what happened between IV & V... at the end of IV the deathstar is exploded and the empire seems to be in really bad shape... the rebels are partying getting medals etc. Han is probably banging Leia every night.

Then empire starts and theres a couple hundred rebel troops hiding on a frozen gently caress of a planet.

wtf happened?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Don't get me wrong, I ended up being glad I saw R1 and I welcome the change from the fan wank JJ vomit that was TFA. I figured R1 would be a better movie than TFA from the trailers but I didn't have the impulse to see it until then.

However that said I am not sure whether I give a poo poo anymore. I am certainly not going to see the mainline films at the cinema barring another social event. I don't care about Han Solo anymore. The next time they do something different and took a chance like R1 I might go see it on my own volition.

FrankeeFrankFrank posted:

SERIOUS POST

I want to see what happened between IV & V... at the end of IV the deathstar is exploded and the empire seems to be in really bad shape... the rebels are partying getting medals etc. Han is probably banging Leia every night.

Then empire starts and theres a couple hundred rebel troops hiding on a frozen gently caress of a planet.

wtf happened?

They spent whatever the time moving house and hiding. Han Solo did cargo runs with his cargo ship. Luke flew escort. the Empire arrive at Yavin to see what happened to their Death Star. vadar spends however many months spamming probe droids. not sure there is much story in there.

X-wing the game did a pretty good treatment of what happened in the intervening time.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

dreezy posted:

think about star wars like cumming. the original trilogy ranged from top quality head to solid p in v spooge action but that ended in 1983 and you've had decades of blue balls with only 3 very rough and unsatisfying handjobs to try and make you nut but they didn't work. then a skilled twink named JJ gives you a really skilled handjob and you cum 32 years worth of built up cum. but then next year you get another decent handjob but it doesn't really do it for you because you just got one and the handjob in 1999 gave you a venerial disease.

How does EU fits into this?

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

Paladinus posted:

How does EU fits into this?

The EU is edging.

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Old Story
Jun 2, 2006

Oven Wrangler
this movie was gay where was darth maul

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