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BUSH 2112
Sep 17, 2012

I lie awake, staring out at the bleakness of Megadon.


This was just a comment on an MSNBC article, iirc, that I just found very hilarious. Also, BENGHAZI!

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Elder Postsman
Aug 30, 2000


i used hot bot to search for "teens"

Agents are GO! posted:

Yeah, that's why I was asking (google turned up nothing.)

EDIT:


I think I'm not doing to well on this one.

There's also this: http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2010/12/phantom-menace-fantasies-falsehoods-and.html

Iran has been a few years away from having a nuclear weapon since 1984.

quote:

An April 24, 1984 article entitled "'Ayatollah' Bomb in Production for Iran" in United Press International referenced a Jane's Intelligence Defense Weekly report warning that Iran was moving "very quickly" towards a nuclear weapon and could have one as early as 1986.

quote:

A report by the U.S. House Republican Research Committee, released in early 1992, stated with "98 per cent certainty that Iran already had all [or virtually all] of the components required for two to three operational nuclear weapons made with parts purchased in the ex-Soviet Muslim republics," and suggested Iran would acquire these weapons by April 1992.

quote:

Speaking on French television in October 1992, then-Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres warned the international community that Iran would be armed with a nuclear bomb by 1999.

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


BUSH 2112 posted:



This was just a comment on an MSNBC article, iirc, that I just found very hilarious. Also, BENGHAZI!

The non-BENGHAZI bit is pretty stupid too. The song didn't get its nomination retracted because it was Christian but because the guy who composed it used his position in the Academy to unfairly boost it.

Mo_Steel
Mar 7, 2008

Let's Clock Into The Sunset Together

Fun Shoe

BUSH 2112 posted:



This was just a comment on an MSNBC article, iirc, that I just found very hilarious. Also, BENGHAZI!

I keep seeing this pop up. It seems to be on everyone's minds lately, but no one can explain it to me. I have to ask:

Kro-Bar
Jul 24, 2004
USPOL May

muscles like this? posted:

The non-BENGHAZI bit is pretty stupid too. The song didn't get its nomination retracted because it was Christian but because the guy who composed it used his position in the Academy to unfairly boost it.

That's an AV Club headline; in the tradition of The Onion their headlines are sarcastic and jokey. The actual article explains the reason the nomination was rescinded correctly.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Elder Postsman posted:

There's also this: http://www.wideasleepinamerica.com/2010/12/phantom-menace-fantasies-falsehoods-and.html

Iran has been a few years away from having a nuclear weapon since 1984.

And who could forget?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

I would have followed up the Neville Chamberlain / appeasement comparison to, again, the fact that ANY DAY NOW has been going on for about as long as you've been alive. The comparison falls apart because that poster is from the 1970s. Counting back ~34 years from Sep-1939 would put you ... 9 years before the FIRST World War.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?

BUSH 2112 posted:



This was just a comment on an MSNBC article, iirc, that I just found very hilarious. Also, BENGHAZI!

The onion is on point as usual.

borkencode
Nov 10, 2004


Abortion vaguely bad.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

borkencode posted:



Abortion vaguely bad.
If there's an actual live child (rather than a blob of cells with the potential to become a human being) and the mother is in fact neglecting the child, that's screwed up and should be called out. (I have more than enough friends who have emotional problems from that kind of thing.) But that's an argument *for* abortion, since there will be fewer women with kids they don't want.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

The pro-choice agenda is making sure abortions stay legal up through the 972nd week.

Ooh sorry son, college looks expensive, I'd better abort you while I'm still in the 74th trimester.

OAquinas
Jan 27, 2008

Biden has sat immobile on the Iron Throne of America. He is the Master of Malarkey by the will of the gods, and master of a million votes by the might of his inexhaustible calamari.

borkencode posted:



Abortion vaguely bad.

Children spring into existence fully formed, didn't you know? The whole "pregnancy" and "birth" and "permanent biological changes" things are irrelevant to the discussion.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

OAquinas posted:

Children spring into existence fully formed, didn't you know? The whole "pregnancy" and "birth" and "permanent biological changes" things are irrelevant to the discussion.

The mother doesn't even have to be alive. :stare: I'm glad they at least stopped that nonsense, but it was pretty creepy.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




A guy on my wall just posted this link from Reason.com on how stupid liberals are for banning plastic bags when a drought in CA is on the horizon and those darn hippie canvas bags need to be washed regularly:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/31/hey-california-want-to-conserve-water-th

Considering Reason is basically a propaganda wing for the Libertarian Party, exactly how full of poo poo is this article? I don't plan on debating this guy any time soon since he has a hair trigger temper when it comes to talking politics (even though all he posts on his wall are links to Fox News and Drudge), but I was still wondering. So far, two easy answers would be "just wash it along with the rest of your clothes when you can; it's not like you won't be able to wash your clothes period if a drought hits," and "plastic bags are most certainly NOT fully recyclable, what the gently caress."

ProperGanderPusher fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Feb 1, 2014

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
*completely destroys the water supply with plastic waste and byproducts*

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
A good washing machine uses about 50 liters of water and 0.75 kWh of energy. Divide that by 50 and wash it 12 times a year and it's going to cost you 12 liters of water and 0.2 kWh (20 grams of oil) per year. That already looks favorable. Besides, the real point about plastic bags isn't just their resource use, it's also the fact that plastic trash is a permanent pollutant and that making items with an expected lifetime of less than an hour out of a material that takes thousands of years to decay is probably not a good idea.

andrew smash
Jun 26, 2006

smooth soul

peak debt posted:

plastic trash is a permanent pollutant and that making items with an expected lifetime of less than an hour out of a material that takes thousands of years to decay is probably not a good idea.

Sort of along these lines, I use plastic grocery bags to pick up my dog's poo poo when we go walking etc but I think making little plastic -sealed bags of poop is not any more ecologically sound than just throwing the bags away to begin with. Anybody know of more green methods to dispose of dog poo (ignoring the obvious of just leaving it as that would piss off the neighbors)?

XyloJW
Jul 23, 2007

andrew smash posted:

Sort of along these lines, I use plastic grocery bags to pick up my dog's poo poo when we go walking etc but I think making little plastic -sealed bags of poop is not any more ecologically sound than just throwing the bags away to begin with. Anybody know of more green methods to dispose of dog poo (ignoring the obvious of just leaving it as that would piss off the neighbors)?

Bury it? I don't know.

The park in my town has these stations set up along the walking paths with dog bags set up for people to take. It's a rectangle of cardboard, with a hole cut into the center and a brown paper bag attached to the hole. You use the rigid cardboard part to slide under the poop, then it falls into the paper bag. You can then fold the cardboard closed.

I have no idea if these are available commercially, because they look homemade or at least locally made.

TerminalSaint
Apr 21, 2007


Where must we go...

we who wander this Wasteland in search of our better selves?
Plastic bag decomposition estimates are actually more on the order of 10-20 years, or as little as a year if it's in the ocean. Naturally this is still plenty of time to do harm to animals, but in most of them won't be kicking around in 4014.

Edit: VVV I'm not entirely familiar with the mechanism, but that sounds about right.

TerminalSaint fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Feb 1, 2014

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
Don't they degrade into microscopic particles that become a geologic marker for industrial civilization?

darthbob88
Oct 13, 2011

YOSPOS

TerminalSaint posted:

Plastic bag decomposition estimates are actually more on the order of 10-20 years, or as little as a year if it's in the ocean. Naturally this is still plenty of time to do harm to animals, but in most of them won't be kicking around in 4014.

Edit: VVV I'm not entirely familiar with the mechanism, but that sounds about right.
Apparently that's because the bonds holding plastic together break down under UV, so they just go from large pieces of plastic to smaller pieces. Unfortunately, those pieces are still large enough for animals to eat, so they starve with bellies full of plastic and/or absorb chemicals leaching out of the plastic.

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


andrew smash posted:

Sort of along these lines, I use plastic grocery bags to pick up my dog's poo poo when we go walking etc but I think making little plastic -sealed bags of poop is not any more ecologically sound than just throwing the bags away to begin with. Anybody know of more green methods to dispose of dog poo (ignoring the obvious of just leaving it as that would piss off the neighbors)?

You can buy oxo biodegradable dog poop bags. I know this because I left an unused one in my car after bringing the dogs to the park and it basically turned into dust after I forgot about it for a few months.

Guilty Spork
Feb 26, 2011

Thunder rolled. It rolled a six.

ProperGanderPusher posted:

A guy on my wall just posted this link from Reason.com on how stupid liberals are for banning plastic bags when a drought in CA is on the horizon and those darn hippie canvas bags need to be washed regularly:
http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/31/hey-california-want-to-conserve-water-th

Considering Reason is basically a propaganda wing for the Libertarian Party, exactly how full of poo poo is this article? I don't plan on debating this guy any time soon since he has a hair trigger temper when it comes to talking politics (even though all he posts on his wall are links to Fox News and Drudge), but I was still wondering. So far, two easy answers would be "just wash it along with the rest of your clothes when you can; it's not like you won't be able to wash your clothes period if a drought hits," and "plastic bags are most certainly NOT fully recyclable, what the gently caress."
Do reusable bags really need to be washed that often? I've had two of them for over a year with no real need to wash them. I don't know if there's any data, but I strongly suspect my usage pattern is closer to the norm than "hippies wasting tons of water putting bags through the wash."

Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


Guilty Spork posted:

Do reusable bags really need to be washed that often? I've had two of them for over a year with no real need to wash them. I don't know if there's any data, but I strongly suspect my usage pattern is closer to the norm than "hippies wasting tons of water putting bags through the wash."

Yeah they are just flailing now if the they are trying to paint hippies as people that do laundry too often.

Shalebridge Cradle fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Feb 1, 2014

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




Guilty Spork posted:

Do reusable bags really need to be washed that often? I've had two of them for over a year with no real need to wash them. I don't know if there's any data, but I strongly suspect my usage pattern is closer to the norm than "hippies wasting tons of water putting bags through the wash."

I only rewash bags that produce gets put in, and only then once in a blue moon, if only because it seems like common sense anyway. There was a big to-do in the media a while back about how reusable bags can harbor dangerous microbes and should be washed at least somewhat regularly (which conservative bloggers naturally jumped on as proof that A Liberal Thing is dumb and should never be used).

Corponation
Apr 21, 2007

Fantastic.

Guilty Spork posted:

Do reusable bags really need to be washed that often? I've had two of them for over a year with no real need to wash them. I don't know if there's any data, but I strongly suspect my usage pattern is closer to the norm than "hippies wasting tons of water putting bags through the wash."

If you're putting packages of meat in the bags and aren't wrapping them in plastic first, then washing those bags more often is probably a good idea. Sometimes slabs of beef are still bloody and it's not a good idea to leave that lingering.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
Look at those hippies wasting water by wearing clothes!

Melaneus
Aug 24, 2007

Here to make your dreams and nightmares come true.

VideoTapir posted:

Look at those hippies wasting water by wearing clothes!

Heh, like hippies wash anything including themselves.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

And this is why I keep semi-conservative Facebook friends, because some of their friends' comments are gold


"Oboingo can suck it!"
*Is bankrupted or dies from a treatable illness*
"Take that, NObama, I sure showed you!"

Kugyou no Tenshi
Nov 8, 2005

We can't keep the crowd waiting, can we?

VitalSigns posted:

And this is why I keep semi-conservative Facebook friends, because some of their friends' comments are gold


"Oboingo can suck it!"
*Is bankrupted or dies from a treatable illness*
"Take that, NObama, I sure showed you!"

All that's ignoring the whole fact that you don't have to sign up for healthcare if you actually can't afford it, and no fine will be assessed. I can't even tell you the number of people I've had to explain that to. Then again, they're "poor and proud" types who wouldn't take the Medicaid expansion even if our Governor hadn't refused it.

Defenestration
Aug 10, 2006

"It wasn't my fault that my first unconscious thought turned out to be-"
"Jesus, kid, what?"
"That something smelled delicious!"


Grimey Drawer

VitalSigns posted:

And this is why I keep semi-conservative Facebook friends, because some of their friends' comments are gold


"Oboingo can suck it!"
*Is bankrupted or dies from a treatable illness*
"Take that, NObama, I sure showed you!"
What's with all these people that got paid $0-$3,000 all year and still manage to live? Could it be that there is another earner in the picture they are sponging off?

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Defenestration posted:

What's with all these people that got paid $0-$3,000 all year and still manage to live? Could it be that there is another earner in the picture they are sponging off?

The OP is a student, I'm sure it's financial aid because the only moral Socialist Obammunism is my Socialist Obammunism.

I don't know about the other guy, but he looks older so maybe he has savings or a working spouse or something.

Edit:
Oh my God, tonight is a gold mine

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Feb 1, 2014

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

VitalSigns posted:

The OP is a student, I'm sure it's financial aid because the only moral Socialist Obammunism is my Socialist Obammunism.

I don't know about the other guy, but he looks older so maybe he has savings or a working spouse or something.

Edit:
Oh my God, tonight is a gold mine



I refuse to believe this is genuine. I simply cannot accept that there is someone in this country so mind-blowingly stupid that they really, truly believe that taxation as a concept didn't exist before 1913.

Staryberry
Oct 16, 2009
In 1913 the first constitutional federal income tax law was passed following the ratification of the 16th Amendment. It's a gross over simplification, since state income taxes existed (at least in some states) as well as sales taxes, tariffs etc.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020
I think that's referring to the federal income tax, not taxation in general.

To troll them I'd say "Yeah! We should have a capital gains tax instead!"

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Yeah ask people in the early 1900s how awesome the roads were before the Road Act of 1916 (they were poo poo) and how many highways we had for all the John Galts to ship their products on (none).

Although they have a point on the schools if they are apparently making GBS threads out people that stupid.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 08:07 on Feb 1, 2014

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

No I'm pretty sure we won helped win the Revolutionary War, beat the Barbary Pirates, didn't lose 1812, conquered half of Mexico, won the Civil War, and thrashed Spain and took her colonies with the money we found behind the couch.

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Feb 1, 2014

peak debt
Mar 11, 2001
b& :(
Nap Ghost
The revolutionary war was partly bankrolled by France, partly financed by a huge pile of debt. That debt was so huge the only way they could pay it back was by enacting tariffs so onerous it immediately sparked new insurrections, by inflating the poo poo out of their currency and by stealing land from Indians and selling it to European immigrants for hard cash. So you could ask conservatives which of these three options would be the most realistic way of paying for the Iraq War debt.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.
I have a Facebook friend who is arguing that, by the Quantity Theory of Money, an increase in the minimum wage would cause a spike in prices due to higher demand, and thus cause job losses. I retorted that the theory has been put into question by modern economists, but I want something more concrete. Ideas?

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ArchangeI
Jul 15, 2010

Negative Entropy posted:

I have a Facebook friend who is arguing that, by the Quantity Theory of Money, an increase in the minimum wage would cause a spike in prices due to higher demand, and thus cause job losses. I retorted that the theory has been put into question by modern economists, but I want something more concrete. Ideas?

Why would a spike in prices/demand lead to job loses? Higher demand means more sales for companies for higher profit, which, last I checked, is a good thing.

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