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drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Lurdiak posted:

Yeah, I wanna slam dunk Hickman's Avengers tenure into a toilet, but at least good things came out of the peripheries.

Yeah people like to call Hickman Marvel's Morrison, but I'd say Ewing is a much better fit for that title, his Avengers books are already off to a good start

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Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


drrockso20 posted:

Yeah people like to call Hickman Marvel's Morrison, but I'd say Ewing is a much better fit for that title, his Avengers books are already off to a good start

I loving hate Morrison so I think the comparison is pretty apt. :v:

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I always thought Morrison was Marvel's Morrison.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Morrison-M and Morrison-D both exist at the same time but can never be in the same room or it will cause space-time itself to distort into a fracture-universe whereupon all things exist at once and yet do not exist at all.

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!

ImpAtom posted:

Morrison-M and Morrison-D both exist at the same time but can never be in the same room or it will cause space-time itself to distort into a fracture-universe whereupon all things exist at once and yet do not exist at all.

Morrison bursts into Dan Didio's office, spewing half-chewed mushrooms from his mouth as he screams "I'VE BEEN FREEBASING THE INTERNET AND I HAVE A GREAT NEW IDEA FOR A CROSSOVER"

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

drrockso20 posted:

Yeah people like to call Hickman Marvel's Morrison

Weird, he's obviously influenced by Ellis.

Granted, I haven't read much of Morrison's big sprawling superhero work, just self contained things like rear end and New X-Men.

VVV There's a reason I didn't type out the full title. VVV

Uthor fucked around with this message at 21:41 on Oct 14, 2015

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Uthor posted:

just self contained things like rear end

Still funny.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Personally I'm a fan of Grant Morrison's self-contained rear end

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I always thought Morrison was Marvel's Morrison.

You're right, but I'll admit as much as I love most of Morrison's stuff, I loathe most of his Marvel output that I've read(not counting his old Marvel UK Zoids comic), he just seems incapable of writing Marvel characters well

Lurdiak posted:

I loving hate Morrison so I think the comparison is pretty apt. :v:

You and me are enemies now

Uthor posted:

Weird, he's obviously influenced by Ellis.

Granted, I haven't read much of Morrison's big sprawling superhero work, just self contained things like rear end and New X-Men.

VVV There's a reason I didn't type out the full title. VVV

Most of his DC work is great outside of Batman Inc Volume 2(which falls apart horribly at the end, and has way too many continuity headaches caused by the New 52 switch), also New X-Men is awful in my opinion

Also if I weren't phone posting I'd start posting panels from Flex Mentallo

drrockso20 fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Oct 14, 2015

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

drrockso20 posted:

Most of his DC work is great outside of Batman Inc Volume 2(which falls apart horribly at the end, and has way too many continuity headaches caused by the New 52 switch), also New X-Men is awful in my opinion

I just don't see the Morrison/Hickman comparison. Granted, they both seem to play the long game. Morrison just seems to be about throwing everything in and making it work with some "it's comics, it's okay to be a bit out there". Hickman builds his stories more like clockwork, wheels within wheels. Morrison seems to be intricate with his themes while Hickman is intricate with his plots.

Their styles and approaches just seem different to me.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


drrockso20 posted:

You and me are enemies now

Sigh. I'll add you to the list.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

I don't like the Hickman/Morrison comparison mostly because I really like Hickman and don't care for Morrison at all. Hickman feels more like an Ellis that can focus on one idea for more than six issues at a time to me.

TwoPair
Mar 28, 2010

Pandamn It Feels Good To Be A Gangsta
Grimey Drawer

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

From Red Hood/Arsenal #5



I rewrote part of this page because I've been reading a lot of bat-books and it feels like everyone has the same meeting with amnesiac Bruce.



I'll put it here because we don't have an edit thread at the moment.

drrockso20
May 6, 2013

Has Not Actually Done Cocaine

Lurdiak posted:

Sigh. I'll add you to the list.

I'm joking(mostly)

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!
So in the last couple of years, Bruce has died and come back to life, discovered he had a son he didn't know he had, and now he's got amnesia for some reason.

The Brave and the Bold has somehow become the Bold and the Beautiful.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Fuego Fish posted:

So in the last couple of years, Bruce has died and come back to life, discovered he had a son he didn't know he had, and now he's got amnesia for some reason.

The Brave and the Bold has somehow become the Bold and the Beautiful.

His son has also died and come back to life.

Fuego Fish
Dec 5, 2004

By tooth and claw!

Travis343 posted:

His son has also died and come back to life.

Have we gotten to long-lost evil twin and/or sudden inexplicable coma territory yet?

Knives Amilli
Sep 26, 2014

Fuego Fish posted:

Have we gotten to long-lost evil twin and/or sudden inexplicable coma territory yet?

Well Hush did get plastic surgery to look and sound just like Bruce when Bruce was timewarped by Darkseid.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Fuego Fish posted:

Have we gotten to long-lost evil twin and/or sudden inexplicable coma territory yet?

Lincoln Marsh, the villain from the Court of Owls, the first Batman arc since the reboot, was heavily implied to be Thomas Wayne Jr, Bruce's older brother who supposedly died in a car wreck some years before Bruce was born. So...almost?

dordreff
Jul 16, 2013

Fuego Fish posted:

Have we gotten to long-lost evil twin and/or sudden inexplicable coma territory yet?

There was that time Bane was (possibly) Bruce's brother.

Captain Bravo
Feb 16, 2011

An Emergency Shitpost
has been deployed...

...but experts warn it is
just a drop in the ocean.
If it were a true soap opera, he'd be revealed as Bruce's mother.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?



Sudden, emotional hug to a shocked individual followed by a slower hug in response is one of my favorite tropes.

See also: Despicable Me, Metalocalypse, that time Batman offered to adopt Tim Drake as his son.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

bobkatt013 posted:

Ms Marvel 19










And there are still people who think this is a bad book.

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


Rhyno posted:

And there are still people who think this is a bad book.

I want names. :toughguy:

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
I'd have rather Marvel announced that they were making that book into a movie than every single other comic book they announced including Infinity War.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.

Hollismason posted:

I'd have rather Marvel announced that they were making that book into a movie than every single other comic book they announced including Infinity War.

Let's let them go ahead and not gently caress up the Carol Ms. Marvel movie. If they can do that, then it's open season on Kamalah Ms. Marvel. Though personally, I think I'd rather see her get in on the Netflix action and get a series. It's not realistic, but a man can dream.

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

CzarChasm posted:

Let's let them go ahead and not gently caress up the Carol Ms. Marvel movie. If they can do that, then it's open season on Kamalah Ms. Marvel. Though personally, I think I'd rather see her get in on the Netflix action and get a series. It's not realistic, but a man can dream.

I don't think her power set really lends itself well to TV like, say, Luke Cage or Daredevil.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


CzarChasm posted:

Let's let them go ahead and not gently caress up the Carol Ms. Marvel movie. If they can do that, then it's open season on Kamalah Ms. Marvel. Though personally, I think I'd rather see her get in on the Netflix action and get a series. It's not realistic, but a man can dream.

They'd need to get a 22 year old who can realistically play a teen for a while.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Cabbit posted:

I don't think her power set really lends itself well to TV like, say, Luke Cage or Daredevil.

Considering the stuff Flash is doing, I think a Ms. Marvel show is totally doable.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Madkal posted:

Considering the stuff Flash is doing, I think a Ms. Marvel show is totally doable.

Ehhhh... did you see the morphing effects for Atom Smasher growing? Not good.

redbackground
Sep 24, 2007

BEHOLD!
OPTIC BLAST!
Grimey Drawer

Rhyno posted:

And there are still people who think this is a bad book.
Well they smell like diapers.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



I haven't heard anyone say it's a bad book, just that it's not to their taste, which is a perfectly fine opinion to have.

That said, I don't hang out in comic stores or read the CBR forums, so I'm probably blissfully ignorant.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I really like Carol as a character and I've only read what Ms. Marvel has been posted in the forums, but it's still blindingly obvious that Ms. Marvel is way better than Captain Marvel

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Yeah, I stopped reading Ms Marvel because I just wasn't digging it that much. But it's not bad by any stretch just not my thing. What's bad is Captain Marvel. Now that KSD is finally gone there might be some hope for interesting plots.

Endless Mike posted:

That said, I don't hang out in comic stores or read the CBR forums, so I'm probably blissfully ignorant.

This is exactly the right way to do things. Never step into a comic shop and never go to one of those sites for comic discussion.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Carol Danvers has had the worst luck with writers. Brian loving Reed, Bendis doing whatever the hell he was trying to do with her in New and Mighty Avengers, and then the nail in the coffin right out the gate of her reboot with KSD tied around her neck. And before that she had her weird alcoholic meltdown in Avengers. And of course there was the Jim Shooter incident...

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

I want Captain Marvel to be incredible just because the character has the absolute best visual of any superhero designed since Cassandra Cain's Batgirl but she has just not been in any really impressive comics. It's devastating.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Even though it kinda looks like porn fetish wear, I still maintain her old costume was about 30 times more iconic than her current one. But hey, what do I know.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Lurdiak posted:

Even though it kinda looks like porn fetish wear, I still maintain her old costume was about 30 times more iconic than her current one. But hey, what do I know.

Well nobody said it was iconic, it's barely what, two, three years old? It's an unequivocally better design, though. But then I'm a weirdo who latches on to characters solely based on the strength of their visual design, so she's become one of my favorites even though her comics have been pretty uninteresting.

Put her in some great comics for enough years and it'll become iconic, it's got the potential. It's a really good design.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Well what I mean is the old one is more visually striking and memorable to me. I could easily draw the old costume from memory. Domino mask, black bodysuit, lightning bolt, red sash, then boots and gloves. The new one is.... some kinda jumpsuit that everyone draws slightly different.... with a starburst... and then there's red, blue and yellow but I'm not sure where they go.

Maybe I just like black and lightning bolts.

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Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Lurdiak posted:

Well what I mean is the old one is more visually striking and memorable to me. I could easily draw the old costume from memory. Domino mask, black bodysuit, lightning bolt, red sash, then boots and gloves. The new one is.... some kinda jumpsuit that everyone draws slightly different.... with a starburst... and then there's red, blue and yellow but I'm not sure where they go.

Maybe I just like black and lightning bolts.



It always amazes me how DC has a perfectly good Dr. Doom quality character in Black Adam and rarely ever do anything good with him.

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