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Just wondering, but does the Ultimate universe have a number?
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Oct 24, 2014 14:56
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Yes. It's 1 (the number of books left  )It's 1610 though. All universes get a number someway or another.
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Oct 24, 2014 15:08
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What's interesting to note is that Cloak and Dagger are both on that cover, despite being seemingly killed in the last issue of Ultimates, and the Peter currently in the Miles book is nowhere to be seen.
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Oct 24, 2014 19:30
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Deadpool posted:What's interesting to note is that Cloak and Dagger are both on that cover, despite being seemingly killed in the last issue of Ultimates, and the Peter currently in the Miles book is nowhere to be seen. They're also on the cover of the final issue of All New Ultimates. I'm guessing they're not really dead
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Oct 24, 2014 19:44
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The shots were drawn as beams of light with no blood too, no?
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Oct 24, 2014 19:46
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I just read Millars' Ultimates vol. 1 and 2 and really enjoyed them, but I know there's a lot of hate for Ultimates 3 here. Where do I go from here in the Ultimate universe? As I understand it Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four seem to be the two other big series. I'm not really an X-Men fan outside of Remender's UXF, but I the thought of not being weighed down by 30 years of canon is appealing. I'm also not really a Spider-Man fan so I'm not really looking to dive into the past 15 years of USM.
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Oct 26, 2014 05:55
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SMP posted:I just read Millars' Ultimates vol. 1 and 2 and really enjoyed them, but I know there's a lot of hate for Ultimates 3 here. Where do I go from here in the Ultimate universe? As I understand it Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Fantastic Four seem to be the two other big series. I'm not really an X-Men fan outside of Remender's UXF, but I the thought of not being weighed down by 30 years of canon is appealing. I'm also not really a Spider-Man fan so I'm not really looking to dive into the past 15 years of USM. If you don't like Spider-Man and you don't like the X-Men, just stop reading all ultimate books because the rest of them range from mediocre (Ultimate F4) to loving awful (pretty much everything that's not USM).
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Oct 26, 2014 06:45
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TheJoker138 posted:If you don't like Spider-Man and you don't like the X-Men, just stop reading all ultimate books because the rest of them range from mediocre (Ultimate F4) to loving awful (pretty much everything that's not USM). Ultimate Fantastic Four by Casey is pretty great
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Oct 26, 2014 06:46
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bobkatt013 posted:Ultimate Fantastic Four by Casey is pretty great Which arc was he? I found the series to be alright up until the Thanos arc at which point it totally lost me.
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Oct 26, 2014 06:53
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TheJoker138 posted:Which arc was he? I found the series to be alright up until the Thanos arc at which point it totally lost me. Issues 19-20, then 33-57
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Oct 26, 2014 07:00
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I'd still say go ahead and read USM anyway. It is early enough in Bendis' career that his Bendis-isms aren't too noticeable, it is a good book, and several Ultimate characters appear or debut there that'll later appear elsewhere. Your public library probably has a bunch of trades or hardcovers. Millar's UXM was actually pretty good but no one was able to match it after that. There's also a short two issue break that introduces Gambit in the middle of Millar's run by, believe it or not, Chuck Austen. It might be the best Gambit story ever told. If I remember correctly, Brian Vaughn followed up Millar's run but....it wasn't really that good, and in a couple cases, he kind of ruins some characters and makes them less unique. For example, he has Gambit hooking up with Rogue because...you know, it just has to happen, right? Bendis UXM is basically a short Wolverine title featuring Spider-Man and Daredevil. Kirkman's is forgettable and lets just not enough mention anything that came after it.
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Oct 26, 2014 12:15
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If you don't like Spider-Man just read Ultimate Fantastic Four which is great, aside from a bit of art from Greg Land on some issues, and then stop. The Ultimate Universe is pretty Spider-Centric. You could also check out the Ultimate Galactus trilogy which is pretty drat fun.
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Oct 26, 2014 17:23
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Inkspot posted:Didn't Norman rant about being Peter's father in Ultimate Six? Feels pretty samey. Yup. Hail Hydra.
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Nov 12, 2014 21:04
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I gotta say, even though I was against it at first if Bendis brought Peter back just to have a happy ending and ride off into the sunset like that I'm totally fine with it. I loved this issue. Also, Hail Hydra!
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Nov 12, 2014 21:17
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Deadpool posted:Also, Hail Hydra! Did anyone else notice the amazing ad placement after that scene?
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Nov 12, 2014 21:22
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Deadpool posted:I gotta say, even though I was against it at first if Bendis brought Peter back just to have a happy ending and ride off into the sunset like that I'm totally fine with it. I loved this issue. We have our passing of the torch scene. Now let's never see Peter ever again. I'm fine with the outcome, but this was still really stupid.
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Nov 12, 2014 23:24
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Shinjobi posted:We have our passing of the torch scene. Now let's never see Peter ever again. I'm fine with the outcome, but this was still really stupid. Stupid but fitting. He died for no good reason, he came back for no good reason.
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Nov 12, 2014 23:29
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Him loving off into the sunset was kinda lame imo. Story-wise he's best off leaving, but all that leaves me with is that Peter got a second chance at life and decided to not be a hero anymore, the city's still pretty messed up. It's an out and that's fine to tak and all, but I like stories where the hero refuses the out. :/ I'll see where the dad thing goes, but I think i'll drop this after next issue.
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Nov 13, 2014 00:01
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Did I miss it where Bendis confirms it's the real 100% deal Peter?
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Nov 13, 2014 00:17
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Rhyno posted:Did I miss it where Bendis confirms it's the real 100% deal Peter? I don't think there was any confirmation other than Peter's own words and MJ being with him to corroborate that his grave was empty.
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Nov 13, 2014 00:49
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He woke up alone in a warehouse halfway across the country, came back to NYC, creeped on Miles, helped fight Osborn, then hosed off with MJ in her mom's mini-van. The Hero's Journey is complete. So, ... no. And I wouldn't hold your breath.
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Nov 13, 2014 00:51
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Inkspot posted:He woke up alone in a warehouse halfway across the country, came back to NYC, creeped on Miles, helped fight Osborn, then hosed off with MJ in her mom's mini-van. The Hero's Journey is complete. That is actually nice, especially after that lovely death. Best not be a clone. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 01:16
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CharlestheHammer posted:That is actually nice, especially after that lovely death. The death may not have been great, but showing him being given a hero's welcome in Valhalla was nice.
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Nov 13, 2014 01:21
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Sigh. The All-New Ultimates continue to get punked by Taskmaster, the cops who got canned decide to go rogue, Sidewinder steals Taskmaster's white van full of dead/incapacitated kids, Bombshell chases after them, and thank the gods that Copra is coming back soon because this book needs put out to pasture.
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Nov 13, 2014 02:58
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My only concern was that Peter would take Miles role, but he is gone so I don't mind that he is back, since Miles is still Spider-Man.
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Nov 13, 2014 06:08
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I really hate the conclusion of the Peter storyline. Peter's death was a perfect, if sad, closure to his story. This just reads like a fanfic that someone else wrote just to give MJ and Aunt May a happy ending. And on some level, I appreciate that because poo poo, I just like happy endings, but on the other hand, the story is just so weak. "Oh it turns out that Peter is immortal like Norman because ??? then Peter and Miles totally beat Norman and then Peter and MJ go drive into the sunset and live happily ever after. THE END" Actually, let me revise my statement: I really hate this whole storyline, because if the conclusion of "happily ever after" was bad, the alternate would've been "clone/symbiote/some 3rd thing" and that would've been infinitely worse.
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Nov 13, 2014 06:28
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TwoPair posted:And on some level, I appreciate that because poo poo, I just like happy endings, but on the other hand, the story is just so weak. "Oh it turns out that Peter is immortal like Norman because ??? then Peter and Miles totally beat Norman and then Peter and MJ go drive into the sunset and live happily ever after. THE END" You mean besides the way that they got their powers came from the same source?
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Nov 13, 2014 06:31
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Okay I guess I shouldn't complain about him being immortal like Norman and more him and Norman being immortal at all because that's still just loving stupid. e: On that note, it's really great that after saying multiple times how he's immortal and how, you know, he's come back to life multiple times, everyone just up and leaves Norman's body on the ground. Sure, Maria Hill empties a clip into the body but sorry if I'm skeptical that just because a TV in the background of a scene later says he's dead no really guys for real that that's the end of Osborn. Ugh, the more I think about the end the more I dislike the story. TwoPair fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Nov 13, 2014 |
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Nov 13, 2014 07:36
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Ultimate Spider-Man is officially a bad comic book as of November the 11th of the year 2014.
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Nov 13, 2014 07:44
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Bendis did this to soften the blow of Marvel finally old yeller-ing the Ultimate line next year.
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Nov 13, 2014 09:43
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Wouldn't that just make it worse? Okay, Peter came back and his friends and family got a happy ending oh wait poo poo they're all dead now.
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Nov 13, 2014 10:04
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TwoPair posted:Okay I guess I shouldn't complain about him being immortal like Norman and more him and Norman being immortal at all because that's still just loving stupid. It's not like he'd be any more secure in the Trisklion
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Nov 13, 2014 15:45
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net cafe scandal posted:Ultimate Spider-Man is officially a bad comic book as of November the 11th of the year 2014. Honestly, I don't think the book (and the entire Ultimate line) has been the same since Ultimatum. It's not that it was outright bad post-Ultimatum but it never reached the levels of issues 1-133 + Requiem again.
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Nov 13, 2014 18:49
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This whole arc feels really pointless. Why bring Peter back if he's just going to swing off into the sunset? Why bring Norman back if he's just going to get punked in a dumb filler fight with no stakes? It feels like a self-indulgent tying up of loose ends that haven't been relevant for years.
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Nov 13, 2014 20:04
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What the hell was up with that fight? Norman is in human form and is beaten! No wait he's a goblin again. OK now he's human again and totally knocked the gently caress out. Nope Goblin yet again. Punched some more, back to human. Dead now. for real.
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Nov 13, 2014 20:23
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Squidster posted:This whole arc feels really pointless. Why bring Peter back if he's just going to swing off into the sunset? Why bring Norman back if he's just going to get punked in a dumb filler fight with no stakes? It feels like a self-indulgent tying up of loose ends that haven't been relevant for years. It was tying up lose ends and rectifying a really, really lovely story. It gave Peter a happy ending, I guess that is the eye of the beholder, but still it did serve a purpose. Though I do wonder if that means DOSM was editorally mandated or if Bendis just wanted to do something nice for the fans.
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Nov 13, 2014 20:25
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TwoPair posted:Okay I guess I shouldn't complain about him being immortal like Norman and more him and Norman being immortal at all because that's still just loving stupid. JJJ did the same thing barely an issue ago and we've seen how well that worked. You're right, this story gets worse the more you think about it.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:01
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Senjuro posted:Honestly, I don't think the book (and the entire Ultimate line) has been the same since Ultimatum. It's not that it was outright bad post-Ultimatum but it never reached the levels of issues 1-133 + Requiem again. Without a doubt.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:04
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Senjuro posted:JJJ did the same thing barely an issue ago and we've seen how well that worked. You're right, this story gets worse the more you think about it. I think she also set his body on fire? But I'm not sure how well that works, since he seems to be on fire constantly when he's the Goblin. But I guess unconsciousness + bullets + fire is the key to defeating immortality. It really seems like they're wrapping things up. J.J.'s dead, Peter and company got a happy ending, it looks like Miles is about to hash things out with his dad. I'm starting to believe the rumors that Miles is getting moved to the regular universe.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:20
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Senjuro posted:What the hell was up with that fight? Pretty sure it was all the Norman fights merged into one.
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Nov 13, 2014 21:32
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