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cov-hog posted:Hi thread, Uh honestly if he already digs Minecraft, work him through simple Redstone logic stuff. It's both simple and already has a use in the game he plays for doing things.
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cov-hog posted:Hi thread, Did he say that he wants to learn programming? All I see is a kid watching LPs/streams, like every other kid his age. He's not allowed to play games, and now someone else wants to convince him of a hobby. I mean maybe let the kid decide for himself for once.
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mike12345 posted:All I see is a kid watching LPs/streams, like every other kid his age. He's not allowed to play games, and now someone else wants to convince him of a hobby. I mean maybe let the kid decide for himself for once.
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mike12345 posted:Did he say that he wants to learn programming? All I see is a kid watching LPs/streams, like every other kid his age. He's not allowed to play games, and now someone else wants to convince him of a hobby. I mean maybe let the kid decide for himself for once. Yeah. I do a lot of mentoring with youth and technology. Help him make an easy-to-use modloader for his copy of Minecraft and show him a copy you already have. Make a Minecraft server together for him and some of his nerdier friends to share. Lookup how to get Minecraft running on ARM. Build a portable computer out of salvaged suitcases and eBay. Really it's about 1) the amount of time you're spending with the kid, 2) doing things that you both love, 3) leaving with all the tools necessary to do the next crazy thing. It's gotten so far I've got Eclipse IDE setup for 11 year-olds to hack their own blocks in and start learning Java. It's there, just make it fun.
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Hey, for anyone else who got that Liva X I posted a week ago: the rebate period on that one is 18 days from purchase. Mine still hasn't shown up yet, so be sure to mail that fucker as soon as it does.
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I bought one of those, and it is pretty awesome for a $70 computer. Installing Windows was kind of a pain in the rear end because UEFI, but it runs Windows smooth enough for web browsing and streaming video. Included wifi, eMMC, power supply, case, and Bluetooth put it on almost even footing price-wise with a decked out Ras Pi 2. Plus it can actually be used for Netflix and Amazon Prime Video.
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The Liva has memory and storage included (2GB memory, 32GB eMMC storage), whereas NUCs don't come with any memory or storage and you need to provide your own. This makes the Liva little cheaper but not as flexible since a NUC can have bigger drives and more memory. For a lot of things like a little media player, network server, etc. the Liva storage and memory should be perfect.
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It's like a NUC, but less powerful. On the flip side, the price is lower, and it ships with RAM and eMMC to boot off of. E: F, b
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Jamsta posted:Don't buy anything to start with. Scratch looks awesome! evil_bunnY posted:Get him a pi 2 or an Arduino, plus a solderless electronics kit. This is really true for this kid in particular. He's really hands-on, but he also really needs the feedback and support from other people. I don't think he's (I know he isn't) getting that at home or at school, so an online community might be important too. TVarmy posted:Processing is also a great "First Program" environment. Visual feedback is really encouraging for beginners, and it also gets you familiar with Java syntax without slogging through Java boilerplate. Processing might be a bit too technical but good to have on the radar. fishmech posted:Uh honestly if he already digs Minecraft, work him through simple Redstone logic stuff. It's both simple and already has a use in the game he plays for doing things. !! This is perfect. mike12345 posted:Did he say that he wants to learn programming? All I see is a kid watching LPs/streams, like every other kid his age. He's not allowed to play games, and now someone else wants to convince him of a hobby. I mean maybe let the kid decide for himself for once. I want to address this, even if it's a little e/n. You can bet your rear end that if he was interested in chemistry, or trumpet, or football, or ballet, or solving mysteries or literally anything else that I would be here encouraging the poo poo out of him. To give a little more context, the kid is essentially my step-kid. He lives across the country with his mom and her husband. His dad is with me. The kid is a lot like his dad: really excitable, a little overwhelming, doesn't sit still for long unless he's staring at a screen (so, maybe more accurately, his dad is a lot like any normal 10 year old boy?). His dad has not been involved enough, but that is getting turned around. The mom is not a bad person and she is trying her best, but she can't relate to the kid at all. She really just wants him to be quiet and out of trouble. That isn't happening, so the kid has learned that any attention is better than no attention and he acts out a lot. He gets unsupervised computer time (but no games except Minecraft). He doesn't have any parental oversight for things that should be habits, like brushing your teeth at night. He gets bullied at school. He doesn't know how to manage getting angry, and he regularly loses his poo poo. He still gets spanked (he's 10?). (He got in trouble for hitting the girl who is mean to him at school and everyone is like, "where did he learn how to hit?"  ) The "wrong direction" he's going in is more or less that he's getting the police called on him at school (again, he's 10), they're trying to put him in the 4th new school in two years, the teachers won't work with him because he's a "bad kid", he's fighting a lot, he's lying and manipulating for fun, and most recently he told the girls who bully him that he "had a gun" in his bag and "would shoot them". He did not have a gun, but you know, that's kind of a touchy thing to say in schools these days.IMO, the kid needs more guidance, attention and encouragement. He isn't a bad kid but he is going to become a bad teenager if this keeps going. I think he needs to have something to do that he wants to do, can be done with other people online or in real life, and can excel at, to maybe give him more confidence and to definitely stay busy with. If that's video games, then cool. But he can do more than watch LPs on youtube. Personally, I'd rather he played GTA V himself than watch 11 year olds play almost anything. If he is interested in building cool poo poo in Minecraft, then awesome. If he's interested in translating that into building cool poo poo in the real world (whether through code or woodworking, whatever) then that is also awesome. If skills he can start building now turn out to be lucrative for his future, then that is baller. I am not trying to choose a hobby for him, but if he's interested in games and gets excited about code and I can help, then I will do the best I can to support that. Unless posted:Yeah. I do a lot of mentoring with youth and technology. Help him make an easy-to-use modloader for his copy of Minecraft and show him a copy you already have. Make a Minecraft server together for him and some of his nerdier friends to share. Lookup how to get Minecraft running on ARM. Build a portable computer out of salvaged suitcases and eBay. Thanks for this post. We're kind of far away but we can still spend time with the kid; the minecraft server is a great idea. I guess many things come down to time, inspiration and having the right tools 
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mod sassinator posted:The Liva has memory and storage included (2GB memory, 32GB eMMC storage), whereas NUCs don't come with any memory or storage and you need to provide your own. This makes the Liva little cheaper but not as flexible since a NUC can have bigger drives and more memory. For a lot of things like a little media player, network server, etc. the Liva storage and memory should be perfect. I am REALLY impressed by the usability the little thing offers for such a small amount of money. I need to try it out as a Steam in home streaming client. If it can do that, it is pretty close to the perfect cheapo HTPC; it sips power, is tiny, and it runs Windows, so it has access to pretty much every streaming service, including the ones that have restrictions depending on what consumer electronics streaming device you are using. Edit to add: on a whim I bought a handful of the cheapest wifi dongles I could find from a US seller on ebay. The result: teensy tiny "150Mbps" RALink wifi dongles for $1.85 each, shipped to my door. And they actually work. Absolutely amazing. I remember wifi cards that cost $100+ and promised speeds up to 11 Mbps. Technology is amazing. Hopefully someone will make a RPZ case that has some room inside for the adapters that convert microUSB into real USB and microHDMI into real HDMI. PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 14:14 on Dec 1, 2015 |
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I want to start connecting my raspberry pi to old 70s/80s televsions that use VHF/UHF and Coaxial connectors. I was wondering how I would go about doing this? I heard something along the lines of an RF modulator. But what other things would I need. HDMI to RCA? Coax cables? Someone has done it here but doesn't really go into detail. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=19235
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oaok posted:I want to start connecting my raspberry pi to old 70s/80s televsions that use VHF/UHF and Coaxial connectors. I was wondering how I would go about doing this? I heard something along the lines of an RF modulator. But what other things would I need. HDMI to RCA? Coax cables? Someone has done it here but doesn't really go into detail. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=19235 The Pi has an RCA out in addition to HDMI. An RF Modulator will take care if everything for you.
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Moey posted:The Pi has an RCA out in addition to HDMI. An RF Modulator will take care if everything for you. The new one doesn't, not without an adapter
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oaok posted:I want to start connecting my raspberry pi to old 70s/80s televsions that use VHF/UHF and Coaxial connectors. I was wondering how I would go about doing this? I heard something along the lines of an RF modulator. But what other things would I need. HDMI to RCA? Coax cables? Someone has done it here but doesn't really go into detail. https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=19235 http://www.amazon.com/RCA-Compact-R...J7S341C3BRGNJTP http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-RCA-VGA-Cable-1-8m/dp/B002ZUI68G http://www.amazon.com/Coaxial-Cable-F-Male-Connectors--Wall/dp/B003FVX8GE/ref=lp_597550_1_1?s=aht&ie=UTF8&qid=1449509300&sr=1-1
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Skarsnik posted:The new one doesn't, not without an adapter poo poo, my bad.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput Well this Pine64 board looks promising. Ethernet not attached to USB, clock, battery charger, more resolution, bigger SD support, extra ports.
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Dead Goon posted:There is one mouse, there are lots of mice. Except when referring to computing peripherals, in which case you may find many mouses.
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Dylan16807 posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput Looks interesting to me too. Anyone have experience with that chipset's performance or what phone it would be equivalent to?
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Dylan16807 posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput Very, very similar to the odroid-c1. Better processor but slightly slower clock speed (I assume you can overclock it, it should be faster regardless) and cheaper, interesting! fishmech posted:Looks interesting to me too. Anyone have experience with that chipset's performance or what phone it would be equivalent to? https://community.arm.com/groups/processors/blog/2013/10/28/the-top-5-things-to-know-about-cortex-a53 Looks to be an upgrade of the A9, so expect better performance than the current rpi and odroid offerings (the XU4 might outperform it overall but it also costs $74 just for the board so no contest on price).
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I've been seeing a lot of references to ESP 8266 and Raspberry Pi. What advantage does one of these have compared to a USB wifi dongle? Are these 8266 things just popular right now because they represent a way to get wifi on a Pi Zero without having to use a USB OTG adapter? I got one of those Orange Pi PCs from Aliexpress. I had to wait a couple of extra days for a power adapter from Amazon, but to my surprise, the thing actually works. The software support is loving garbage compared to RPi, but there is enough there to use one of these as a light duty file/print server. Does anyone know if the ethernet implementation is more robust than the RPi's hackjob ethernet? PBCrunch fucked around with this message at 15:25 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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PBCrunch posted:I've been seeing a lot of references to ESP 8266 and Raspberry Pi. What advantage does one of these have compared to a USB wifi dongle? Are these 8266 things just popular right now because they represent a way to get wifi on a Pi Zero without having to use a USB OTG adapter? ESP8266 is a standalone embedded platform which can run Arduino or NodeMCU, it's not a plug and go adapter. The ESP-> Pi SDIO project is a hack of the highest order http://hackaday.com/2015/12/09/raspberry-pi-wifi-through-sdio/
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The 8266 is a full microcontroller (it happens to have both client and AP wifi front ends, but it's not exactly enterprise grade). It's been a popular way to give *duino boards a way to talk over the air (serial to wifi), but it can do a lot by itself (with I think micropython and lua) amd it's cheap as chips (he.. he kill me now). There's really good support from a bunch of places, so you can just talk to it from the duino IDE too: https://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-huzzah-esp8266-breakout/overview evil_bunnY fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Has there been any information on the next run of pi zeros? Is it a matter of weeks or months?
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Just took the plunge and got the starter kit and a usb harddrive. First time ever doing something hacky, going to attempt to make a wireless NAS. Any precautions for a utterly green noob?
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Famethrowa posted:Just took the plunge and got the starter kit and a usb harddrive. First time ever doing something hacky, going to attempt to make a wireless NAS. Any precautions for a utterly green noob?
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Famethrowa posted:Just took the plunge and got the starter kit and a usb harddrive. First time ever doing something hacky, going to attempt to make a wireless NAS. Any precautions for a utterly green noob? Enjoy, and if you decide you want to use something like that full time, transition to something more permanent and pick some other fun project to use the Pi for.
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Dylan16807 posted:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pine64/pine-a64-first-15-64-bit-single-board-super-comput I've been considering buying a 2gb Pine64+, but I'm also toying with buying this instead: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/139108638/lattepanda-a-45-win10-computer-for-everything Running Win10 on an x86 platform is tempting, but by the time you're buying the version with 4GB RAM, 64GB storage, and the 64 bit OS you're creeping into mini-itx territory pricewise. Only two USB ports too, but it would probably be more powerful computationally. Anyone else got any thoughts?
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That's probably true, but in the UK both of those are pricey - the cheapest (only) 4/64 Liva X i could find on sale here was £177, twice the price of the 4/64 LattePanda, while the Jetson is a $300 import.
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Oh, true. The pricing probably makes a lot more sense for EU customers. The Jetson TK1 is $192 in the US, the TX1 is just crazy expensive. It's $600 with the dev kit, or like $400 with just the embedded module. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 23:49 on Dec 13, 2015 |
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Pi Goons Looking to build a portable Raspberry Pi or Banana Pro. media player/server for either plugging into various none smart tv's or streaming in the car to a tablet/phone. Thinking i need a SSD for ease of use. Honestly it will just end up just dealing with media up to 1080p with Kodi... but i'd like an ssd because it's just easier. Wot do...?
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Rocksicles posted:Pi Goons Bpro still needs a microsd to boot. But, you can set the root fs to point at the ssd/hdd. Bpro does MUCH higher network throughput as well. I have one running debian for Octoprint to run my 3d printer. Having a real HDD instead of sdcard for the file system makes them hilariously faster.
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