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CrazyLittle posted:netgear is... bad. the last netgear unit that i configured because the customer didn't/couldn't do it themselves was early this year, and the latest firmware was from 2011, didn't support ipv6, and each web gui page load took ~30-60 sec. yea I guess I'll look into the cheapest Cisco router option... the cable tech guy swore the router they provided would be up to snuff but it's getting weird with 20 computers connected
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Silver Alicorn posted:yea I guess I'll look into the cheapest Cisco router option... the cable tech guy swore the router they provided would be up to snuff but it's getting weird with 20 computers connected once upon a time the linksys wrt54g default nat table was only 4096 entries long. most of the edgerouters i setup have a 32k nat table configured
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well I guess the tp-link router is the one that fits our budget... I thought tp-link was a garbage brand tho? or am I thinking of linkskey
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I've seen breakdowns on the internals of tp-link equipment and the build quality can be extremely poo poo however they don't seem to skimp on internal components so the SoC stuff is generally good
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I just need it to be better than an arris whatever & handle up to 30 devices all spewing out UDP
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CrazyLittle posted:get a ubiquiti edgerouter X or edgerouter lite how do these compare to mikrotik? theyre pretty price comparable and ive been curious
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Silver Alicorn posted:well I guess the tp-link router is the one that fits our budget... I thought tp-link was a garbage brand tho? or am I thinking of linkskey they used to be really cut rate stuff, but these days their mid and high end stuff is very good
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o wow that's a good price on the edgerouters too. don't really need wifi
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Raluek posted:how do these compare to mikrotik? theyre pretty price comparable and ive been curious both have a really good rep. ubiquiti stuff is managed through a web server interface thign so its a bit more iphoney where mikrotik is androidy. but i havent really used any mikrotik stuff before. ubiquiti stuff is good
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bobbilljim posted:both have a really good rep. ubiquiti stuff is managed through a web server interface thign so its a bit more iphoney where mikrotik is androidy. but i havent really used any mikrotik stuff before. ubiquiti stuff is good ive used ubiquiti's airos wap stuff for years but i have no idea how good their wired stuff is. good poo poo. is there any kind of cleverness or interoperability between edgerouter and unifi ap that might make that combination more attractive than the same ap with a mikrotik?
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yeah they would all come up in the same network "site" in the UI it would be easier to configure it all / look at whats goin on in ur net. plus you get a cool diagram of your network n all that also i think some of the edgerouters n stuff have powered ports so u can just dangle the ap right off
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bobbilljim posted:yeah they would all come up in the same network "site" in the UI it would be easier to configure it all / look at whats goin on in ur net. plus you get a cool diagram of your network n all that also i think some of the edgerouters n stuff have powered ports so u can just dangle the ap right off oh right on. since the edgerouter has a web interface and the unifi needs ~~an app~~ to configure normally, does this circumvent that and allow me to set up the wap from the edgerouter web interface?
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huh, seems not... im kind of disappointed. Some 'community' posters have noted that since they wrote their app to use mongodb it would run liek poo poo on the router os. https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Integrated-UniFi-Controller-in-Edgemax/td-p/915742 you;d think tehy woudl at least let you configure it vOv e: this thing is teh one that works more with the APs https://www.ubnt.com/enterprise/#unifi-gateway:overview looks new
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ubiquiti has 2-3 branches of product. airos is all the point to point wireless backhaul stuff and runs on fancy binary proprietary firmware. unifi is the cloud/butt/web managed stuff where you can configure a simple router firewall on the same page as your managed wifi aps and unifi switch. the web gui server uses mongodb as its back end so you can't run the server on the same box as the router. edgemax is the enterprisey router gear that's mips/arm cortex CPUs driving a port of Debian/vyatta router os and has a simple gui interface plus a full featured cli shell which shares similar samey command syntax as juniper junos. meanwhile microtik relies heavily on their own Windows gui tool called winbox. otherwise their cli syntax is horseshit. if you want to try microtik I can send you a rb750 that I have no interest in plugging in anymore. oh and the programming team for microtik is in Poland or Latvia and they have a history of not implementing basic things or breaking things on new releases
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CrazyLittle posted:ubiquiti has 2-3 branches of product. yeah i love the airos stuff and i wish their unifi stuff had that as an option, i dont want to have to run their stupid app or have a cloudbutt thing in my drat router. but it sounds like the edgerouter is the way to go to sidestep all that. although im still gonna have to deal with their stupid thing to get the good wap. any info on longevity? i was mainly interested in mikrotik since they have a p good nerd-reputation for being no-nonsense and stable/solid, and ive been using dd-wrt routers that are kind of poo poo so ive been looking to upgrade. mainly want something that will last a decade and have decent performance without needing to be all whizbang gamer. something i can install at my folks' house and not have to tell them how to power cycle the router when it gets confused every month or so. the airos ubnt stuff has been that kind of quality so far, so i was hoping their other stuff also was. if that is an earnest offer for the rb750, hell yea ill take your old junk. would be a decent way to figure out if i hate mikrotik or not. so are the unifi gateway things any good? or are they too consumer-y?
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the unifi line seems to be ubiquiti's attempt to bridge the soho / home market. it's probably robust enough to simple offices up to 30-40 ppl but hooking your internet gateway router config into a cloud/server creates some interesting chicken & egg problems... but then again meraki does the same cloud thing soooooo unifi aps: v good, v cheap. assumes you have some idea of what you're doing in setting up a wireless network deployment. if you have a bunch of devices or ppl who want lots of wifi speed then you're going to need more than 1-2 aps in an office space, so this lets you do it on the cheap from a centralized management and planning console. only drawback is that you need a windows/osx/linux server on site to run your webgui/config/provisioning/firmware server. if you're really unwilling or have multiple sites you can host it on a remote server or in the cloud but you're adding complexity that you might not need. unifi switches: ok so now you have a bunch of poe-driven aps all over your ceiling but you want a way to control the switch ports in detail from the same management console, well here you go, have a ubiquiti edgemax switch that pulls its configs from the same server as the unifi aps. if you manage to orphan the switch management interface from the config server, welp time to reset the switch unifi voip phones: these are kinda in limbo. they had this grand plan where you'd run a ubiquiti pbx but it was poo poo and it took way too much cpu power, and voip features like auto attendants, voicemail, call bridging are a bitch to implement so ubiquiti said gently caress that and dumped it. now they're just android phones with a sip client and a handset built in and nowhere near enough features-on-the-phone to make them a viable alternative to polycom/snom/grandstream/whatever. they sound pretty damned good for the price tho and you can totally sideload poo poo onto the android tablet. unifi video cameras: just kidding these things aren't integrated into the rest of the unifi poo poo and it requires their own video recording dvr server-or-hardware. unifi security gateway: still haven't gotten enough webgui server driven config? here stick your router on it. it's got the same cpu/ram/ports as the edgerouter lite, but now it's shifted the web gui management over to the cloud/butt/web server. so this is super awesome if you're dumbthumbs and want all the management in a single simple interface, but if you go superadmin and put your config in the cloud and lose internet connectivity you also lose the ability to make changes to the router. maybe i'd sell these as a deployment to my customers where they're able to poke at the pretty buttons and make their own port forwards under a managed services umbrella, but i prob wouldn't run the non ap stuff myself for 100+ employee sites. once you get outside the gui's config ability for the router you're stuck with the cli anyways so why not just play with the edgemax gui that has more features and/or learn some junos syntax?
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can the unifi edgemax poo poo do a combo of site-to-site VPNs and remote access VPNs without being a pain in the rear end? i might need to set up a small company with basically main poo poo in colo on a 100 mbps internet connection, two remote offices and a few remote employees they do scientific computing on severs with a shitload of ram so the power of the ~*cloud*~ doesnt work for them i dont want to deal with this poo poo being flakey so im thinking meraki but these guys are cheap assholes and will probably balk at the recurring costs even though it's cheaper than them hiring someone competent to babysit their garbage full time
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sounds good. so basically dont bother trying to integrate router and ap, because nothing is really gained. use an edgerouter x or lite, and a unifi ap and deal with the stupid configuration thing for those only. worksforme
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Raluek posted:if that is an earnest offer for the rb750, hell yea ill take your old junk. would be a decent way to figure out if i hate mikrotik or not. tossed them both on sa-mart
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mishaq posted:can the unifi edgemax poo poo do a combo of site-to-site VPNs and remote access VPNs without being a pain in the rear end? edgerouter lite, poe and pro models have ipsec hardware offload so they should be able to push a good amount of site-to-site vpn throughput. i haven't done any benchmarks for it yet though. config is possible through gui and is super easy for site-to-site stuff. here's a sample config snip of vpn lan-to-lan and vpn remote access: http://pastebin.com/hQ4vtkQ3 mishaq posted:i dont want to deal with this poo poo being flakey so im thinking meraki but these guys are cheap assholes and will probably balk at the recurring costs even though it's cheaper than them hiring someone competent to babysit their garbage full time yeah there's real value in having the ability to pick up the phone and yell at cisco.
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CrazyLittle posted:yeah there's real value in having the ability to pick up the phone and yell at cisco. 
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CrazyLittle posted:netgear is... bad. the last netgear unit that i configured because the customer didn't/couldn't do it themselves was early this year, and the latest firmware was from 2011, didn't support ipv6, and each web gui page load took ~30-60 sec. please do not use sonicwalls sonicwall bad
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Captain Foo posted:please do not use sonicwalls agreed but the alternatives for small office tend to be: cisco asa 5508-x meraki/cisco MX64W juniper SSG5 sonicwall tz300 lmao netgear trashfire random soho poo poo unix-box
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CrazyLittle posted:agreed but the alternatives for small office tend to be: i got us out of some nonsense sonicwall to an HA pair of Palo Alto 3020s but that is probably an unreasonable upgrade for this situation
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palo alto pa-500 is $5000 laffo
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Welp. what do ya'll use to back up UEFI drives?
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Silver Alicorn posted:Welp. what do ya'll use to back up UEFI drives? you mean gpt? same thing as you use for mbr drives
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I tried PING but it dun werk
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oh clonezilla exists
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CrazyLittle posted:palo alto pa-500 is $5000 laffo lol if u don't get fat discounts from list price
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i have a little box that i put openbsd and pf on and i want it to be a firewall for a couple of hosts. right now i got it configured where it's also a dhcp server passing ips to my hosts, but before i spin up any vms i don't know how many layers of nat i should really have. i thought maybe it would be easier if i just got rid of dhcp and gave static addresses to all the physical hosts? there's no dhcp server on the other end, it's all static addresses and i'm fine with that, but i'm dumb at networking and don't know if what i'm doing or thinking of doing is a good idea. i think i might have to configure routes to make my hosts use my firewall as a gateway, or maybe it just works if i tell them to use the gateway that my firewall is using? thank you in advance for your input.
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whats the least effort way to fetch a url on an interval and have it alert u when it gives a different result using windows
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:this router is older but its dirt cheap with a lot of ram and a good cpu and it can handle 900mbit u/d sustained on my home jiggabit connection. 3rd party firmware might kill the cut to forward feature (does on tomato, not sure about ddwrt) which will take throughput down to the 100mbit range. you can enable hardware nat again in the settings after installing tomato
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Dec 26, 2015 04:20
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why does my computer keep waking up from sleep?
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Silver Alicorn posted:why does my computer keep waking up from sleep? powercfg /waketimers powercfg /lastwake
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well that's a cool command but it doesn't tell me much wake history is just 0?? /wake timers gives me something about media center (mcupdate_scheduled). but it's been waking up repeatedly for a few days now
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Silver Alicorn posted:well that's a cool command but it doesn't tell me much yeah okay so if you ever launch media center it puts in a task scheduler job to wake your computer in the middle of the night to download updated OTA tv schedules even if you don't have a tuner (Michael$$$oft) so you have to go in to task scheduler under Microsoft/Windows/Media Center, find the mcupdate or mcupdate_scheduled job and either edit it so it can't wake your computer or delete it.
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