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Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Bicyclops posted:

Christ, I'd forgotten that was even a thing. I remember reading the reviews, and I think the most positive that they got was "It's possible there are children who could enjoy this, but they do not seem to be the show's target audience." That has to be as niche as MST3K, I hope.

A surprising number of people have Stockholm Syndrome for Dave Coulier et al. I almost wonder if that's why The Real Ghostbusters finally made it on there.

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duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


LabyaMynora posted:

I have a feeling Iron Fist sees a large drop off of views per episode as the season goes on. It's really stupid, and I'd be shocked if there's an Iron Fist season 2 (even knowing he's going to be in Defenders). It's that lovely.

Also, LOL at Marco Polo costing a million per ep.

Isn't Fuller House getting another season? Jesus, I have to think that way more people are watching MST3K: The Return than loving Fuller House.

Marco Polo was $10mil an ep. For reference, Futurama's new seasons cost $1mil per ep and Simpsons is in the neighborhood of $2mil an ep. Not the best examples, but ones that come to mind as being more expensive than you'd think.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
To be fair, the Simpsons costs that mostly because of the talent cost. The 6 principals all make like 250 grand an episode.

I assume if the MST cast took any pay, they were working for scale.

The point still stands that 1 season's budget for Marco Polo would buy Netflix something like 10 seasons of MST.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

I'm not surprised animated shows cost a ton, tbh.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Crazy Ferret posted:

I just cant believe the climax of the movie is the main character swinging back and forth on a rope swing to lure a dinosaur into a swamp. Its so bafflingly dumb and it almost feels like the Beast just kind sits and watches him for a few moments in equal awe at how silly it is.

I forget the exact line but one of them talked about how he never thought he'd be bored by a cowboy fighting a dinosaur, which is perfect. And good god the Mexican dance thing was just... it was something. "That wasn't us."

The villain on Starcrash is also my new favorite actor.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
That skit was excellent, and I liked how all 3 humans had different responses. Jonah is just baffled and worried, Max is terrified and Kinga is sobbing.

EatinCake
Oct 21, 2008
They say in the Comedy Bang Bang podcast that they want to keep doing more episodes. Yay!

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

The principal continuing cost for any show that isn't like, Rome or Deadwood or some grand historical drama that involves a ton of costuming is actor salaries continuing to increase, which is why The Simpsons is now at the point where the network plays chicken with the voice actors every renewal and why Friends was an enormously expensive show compared to what you'd think. Excepting cameos, it's probably less of a problem for a trio of relatively unknown comedians and for someone like Felicia Day, whose whole brand (and, I think, genuine personality) is geek humor lady, (and this show virtually has to be kinder with scheduling than something like Supernatural when it comes to arranging around a new baby). Patton is their biggest liability there, because while I'm sure he's not going to demand a high price for appearing as Max, he seems to get asked to be in every other TV show that's made all of a sudden, and there has to come a point where if they go to a more regular filming schedule, he has to drop for other commitments.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Push El Burrito posted:

The villain on Starcrash is also my new favorite actor.

Then you need to check out the original "Maniac" from 1980! It even has Stella Star in it!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081114/?ref_=nv_sr_3

(You will want to shower after watching this movie.)

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Mantis42 posted:

I'm not surprised animated shows cost a ton, tbh.

I suppose it makes sense but on the flip side the main Simpsons voice actors have it pretty easy compared to what they make. Not that they haven't earned it but I'm sure more than one of them has a recording setup in their house and knock out a episode pretty quickly.

RoyKeen
Jul 24, 2007

Grimey Drawer

Franchescanado posted:

The cast of MST3k is on today's episode of Comedy Bang Bang podcast, for those interested.

Also, Jonah is on the latest Doug Loves Movies if podcasts are your thing.

Bruteman
Apr 15, 2003

Can I ask ya somethin', Padre? When I was kickin' your ass back there... you get a little wood?

LabyaMynora posted:

Then you need to check out the original "Maniac" from 1980! It even has Stella Star in it!

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081114/?ref_=nv_sr_3

(You will want to shower after watching this movie.)

They were also both in another obscure slasher film two years later:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Horror_Film

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer
Honestly, they'll announce a renewal for another season in a few weeks at most if it's happening. For context, Love got renewed 3 days after launch, Bojack Horseman got renewed 2 days BEFORE it launched. If people keep watching, it'll happen.

Crazy Ferret
May 11, 2007

Welp

Push El Burrito posted:

The villain on Starcrash is also my new favorite actor.

That actor understood what kind of movie he was in and played it to perfection. The ridiculous cape fluttering behind him whenever he moved was just great.

There is no way to find out what ratings/views certain things get on netflix is there? I legit curious to see how well MST3K is doing cause I'm surprised by the media coverage I've seen. The reviews for this show have all been very positive from what I've seen that is.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Crazy Ferret posted:

.

There is no way to find out what ratings/views certain things get on netflix is there? I legit curious to see how well MST3K is doing cause I'm surprised by the media coverage I've seen. The reviews for this show have all been very positive from what I've seen that is.

No, they keep it hidden.


According to that CBB ep, each episode actually cost $350k to make

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Bicyclops posted:

The principal continuing cost for any show that isn't like, Rome or Deadwood or some grand historical drama that involves a ton of costuming is actor salaries continuing to increase, which is why The Simpsons is now at the point where the network plays chicken with the voice actors every renewal and why Friends was an enormously expensive show compared to what you'd think. Excepting cameos, it's probably less of a problem for a trio of relatively unknown comedians and for someone like Felicia Day, whose whole brand (and, I think, genuine personality) is geek humor lady, (and this show virtually has to be kinder with scheduling than something like Supernatural when it comes to arranging around a new baby). Patton is their biggest liability there, because while I'm sure he's not going to demand a high price for appearing as Max, he seems to get asked to be in every other TV show that's made all of a sudden, and there has to come a point where if they go to a more regular filming schedule, he has to drop for other commitments.

That's possibly true, but they have a built-in replacement with Rebecca's Pearl-clone. Just have her act more 'normal' and boom, instant new sidekick.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Franchescanado posted:

Honestly, they'll announce a renewal for another season in a few weeks at most if it's happening. For context, Love got renewed 3 days after launch, Bojack Horseman got renewed 2 days BEFORE it launched. If people keep watching, it'll happen.

But I want to know that it's coming back next April now! :mad:

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Crazy Ferret posted:

That actor understood what kind of movie he was in and played it to perfection. The ridiculous cape fluttering behind him whenever he moved was just great.

There is no way to find out what ratings/views certain things get on netflix is there? I legit curious to see how well MST3K is doing cause I'm surprised by the media coverage I've seen. The reviews for this show have all been very positive from what I've seen that is.

Yeah they hide it which has begun to worry film makers and such because netflix currently doesnt share that information with them either, so theyre entirely at the behest of Netflix and thus limited when negotiating.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Gaz-L posted:

A surprising number of people have Stockholm Syndrome for Dave Coulier et al. I almost wonder if that's why The Real Ghostbusters finally made it on there.

Why won't they bring back Out of Control? :ohdear:

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Crazy Ferret posted:

That actor understood what kind of movie he was in and played it to perfection. The ridiculous cape fluttering behind him whenever he moved was just great.

There is no way to find out what ratings/views certain things get on netflix is there? I legit curious to see how well MST3K is doing cause I'm surprised by the media coverage I've seen. The reviews for this show have all been very positive from what I've seen that is.

Netflix is super secretive about ratings/views. I don't think they even share it with the producers of a given show, which is crappy because it takes power away from them when it comes to negotiating future seasons.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Push El Burrito posted:

I forget the exact line but one of them talked about how he never thought he'd be bored by a cowboy fighting a dinosaur, which is perfect. And good god the Mexican dance thing was just... it was something. "That wasn't us."

The villain on Starcrash is also my new favorite actor.

The weirdest host segment for me was when they started screaming at the end of the movie and then just kept it going through the closing segment like it was "Requiem for Soprano" or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhwWAciO6F4

TVGM
Mar 17, 2005

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent"

Yam Slacker
Anyone else have the music from commercial breaks stuck in their head?

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

tvgm2 posted:

Anyone else have the music from commercial breaks stuck in their head?

Yes yes yes yes yes. And I love some of their little jigs as they play. That trumpet player's got moves.

Sushi in Yiddish
Feb 2, 2008

tvgm2 posted:

Anyone else have the music from commercial breaks stuck in their head?

I would buy an album of MST3k Ska covers in a heartbeat tbqh

My current favorite is the "To Earth~" one from Danger! Diabolik

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Push El Burrito posted:

The villain on Starcrash is also my new favorite actor.

Joe Spinell was also in The Godfather, The Godfather Part II, Taxi Driver, Rocky, Rocky II, and Sorcerer (amongst many other things). If you wanted 1970s NYC personified on film, you wanted Joe Spinell.

As others have said, his best film was MANIAC:



And yup, like LabyaMynora said it even co-stars Caroline Munro.

It also has an infamous sequence of somebody taking a shotgun to the face, made more interesting by the fact that it was actually gore special effects maestro Tom Savini shooting a dummy of himself for the scene. The 2012 remake starring Elijah Wood is actually really good too, but obviously doesn't have Joe in it since he died in the 80s.

Pleasing Shape
Jan 9, 2004

The Vitally Important Pelvic Thrust
I'd give anything to hear Joe Spinell's original dialogue from Starcrash.

Ballz
Dec 16, 2003

it's mario time

Anyone else find it unusual that the new MST3K isn't featured prominently on Netflix? It didn't show up as a featured release, nor was it under new releases or Netflix originals. I had to go to the search menu to actually find it.

Don't know if it's like that for everyone, but it did happen like that with my friend as well.

Also I'm a little nervous that it's separated from the original show episodes, so people who've been watching the classic MST may not even realize the new season is there.

And before you say, "Well jeez *ALL* MSTies know about the knew season," I offer a brief anecdote: I went to Busch Gardens earlier this week rocking my MST revival t-shirt in honor of the new season. Had two different people stop me to compliment the shirt (yay!)... and neither one of them had any idea about the revival/new season on Netflix. I blew both of their minds telling them "Yeah new episodes on Netflix like, day after tomorrow. I am 100% serious."

So keep wearing your shirts, and keep spreading the word. More people need to know about the new season, and I'm not convinced they'll stumble upon it just by loading up Netflix.

InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

PINK GUITAR FIRE ROBOT

College Slice

Ballz posted:

Anyone else find it unusual that the new MST3K isn't featured prominently on Netflix?

It showed up as the featured show for me and it was also under new releases and was first in my "Top Picks for InfiniteZero" list.

I also got an email about it from Netflix when it went live (one of those "We've added a show you might like" emails).

That's about as prominent as any other big release on Netflix.

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy
I had to search for it too.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Ballz posted:

Anyone else find it unusual that the new MST3K isn't featured prominently on Netflix? It didn't show up as a featured release, nor was it under new releases or Netflix originals. I had to go to the search menu to actually find it.

Don't know if it's like that for everyone, but it did happen like that with my friend as well.

Also I'm a little nervous that it's separated from the original show episodes, so people who've been watching the classic MST may not even realize the new season is there.

I was looking for it on day one (Friday), and it was the featured thing for the day. However, I think as of Saturday the featured spot was replaced with the new Adam Sandler "Sandy Wexler" or whatever thing.

Should note that I also was watching some of the old ones leading up to the release, so Netflix may have matched it to me for that (even though I'm skeptical that Netflix really matches much based on what you watch anymore. It always seems to be what THEY are looking to promote. For example, I have no interest in, nor have I ever watched anything with Adam Sandler in it on Netflix.)

This was both on the Comcast cable box app and the PS4 btw.

As for making it separate from old MST3K, I think they kind of have to for multiple reasons involving different production studios as separate legal identities. I would worry it would kind of get lost if they grouped it with the old episodes, anyway.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

InfiniteZero posted:

It showed up as the featured show for me and it was also under new releases and was first in my "Top Picks for InfiniteZero" list.

I also got an email about it from Netflix when it went live (one of those "We've added a show you might like" emails).


Same here. I tried to access it on Chromecast at first and couldn't find it, because the search functions are truly awful without the tablet that's tied to it available and it kept finding the old show, but the second I fired up Netflix, it was the first thing on my screen (and I did get an email as well).

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

LabyaMynora posted:

I was looking for it on day one (Friday), and it was the featured thing for the day. However, I think as of Saturday the featured spot was replaced with the new Adam Sandler "Sandy Wexler" or whatever thing.

Should note that I also was watching some of the old ones leading up to the release, so Netflix may have matched it to me for that (even though I'm skeptical that Netflix really matches much based on what you watch anymore. It always seems to be what THEY are looking to promote. For example, I have no interest in, nor have I ever watched anything with Adam Sandler in it on Netflix.)

This was both on the Comcast cable box app and the PS4 btw.

As for making it separate from old MST3K, I think they kind of have to for multiple reasons involving different production studios as separate legal identities. I would worry it would kind of get lost if they grouped it with the old episodes, anyway.

It would not be good for the new show or Netflix to have linked them together only for new viewers to tune into a "new" show that looked like it was straight out of the 90's or early 2000's.

Bruteman
Apr 15, 2003

Can I ask ya somethin', Padre? When I was kickin' your ass back there... you get a little wood?

Neglecting work and watching Starcrash again, and also googling for trivia on it.

It's funny they riff on the robot Elle trying to get with Caroline Munro, because Elle was played by Munro's husband at the time, Judd Hamilton (he was dubbed with the Texan accent by another actor).

All of Stella's dialogue is dubbed by Candy Clark, who was married to Marjoe Gortner (Akton) at the time.

LOL, Christopher Plummer talking to AV Club about his role:

quote:

Starcrash (1978)—“The Emperor”
CP: [Breathlessly.] Starcrash. Oh, my God. There are two things I can say about that: One, give me Rome any day. I’ll do porno in Rome, as long as I can get to Rome. [Laughs.] Getting to Rome was the greatest thing that happened in that for me. I think it was only about three days in Rome on that one. It was all shot at once. And the girl… What’s her name? Munro?

AVC: Caroline Munro.

CP: Caroline Munro. She was something incredible to look at. That was a great pleasure, too. But beyond those two things… I mean, how can you play the Emperor Of The Universe? What a wonderful part to play. [Laughs.] It puts God in a very dicey moment, doesn’t it? He’s very insecure, God, when the Emperor’s around.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Ahahaha that's amazing. "Look, I got to travel, look at some hot chick, and make believe I was basically God, tell me you wouldn't have done it."

Antiquated Pants
Feb 23, 2011

Oh god I'm so lonely in here...
:negative:

I was streaming through the mst3k collection Netflix had up right before the new release and when the new episodes came out they popped up at right away for me.

I didn't even realize I was selecting a different show until I went back to watch more the next day.

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.
maybe my brain has just been warped by a decade of deliberately watching bad movies, but Time Travelers seems like it would be fine on its own terms.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Bruteman posted:

Neglecting work and watching Starcrash again, and also googling for trivia on it.

It's funny they riff on the robot Elle trying to get with Caroline Munro, because Elle was played by Munro's husband at the time, Judd Hamilton (he was dubbed with the Texan accent by another actor).

All of Stella's dialogue is dubbed by Candy Clark, who was married to Marjoe Gortner (Akton) at the time.

LOL, Christopher Plummer talking to AV Club about his role:

This is hilarious, because there was a point in the movie where I said to my wife, "I think everyone's lines are overdubbed by different actors, and I think they're speeding up and slowing down the picture to match the voice over." Something seemed very hinkey about the picture quality of some scenes, like it was stop motion when there were no stop motion happening in the scene.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

HannibalBarca posted:

maybe my brain has just been warped by a decade of deliberately watching bad movies, but Time Travelers seems like it would be fine on its own terms.

Did you even see the "keyboard solo" scene?

So far, I'd only watch Cry Wilderness on it's own terms. I watched Starcrash on it's own terms when it was on Netflix a few years ago, and it was great.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

HannibalBarca posted:

maybe my brain has just been warped by a decade of deliberately watching bad movies, but Time Travelers seems like it would be fine on its own terms.

It's not just you. It seems like it's basically a bit of a long Twilight Zone episode, with some stuff in it that's definitely outdated but that's fun to sit through, and generally well executed for its time.

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Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




HannibalBarca posted:

maybe my brain has just been warped by a decade of deliberately watching bad movies, but Time Travelers seems like it would be fine on its own terms.

I have a feeling that when they bought the rights to Reptiicus, it was included, too. Same writer/director and production company, I think.

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