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gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/leslieleeiii/status/985564065459326976

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JUICY HAMBUGAR
Nov 10, 2010

Eating, America's pastime.
I feel embarrassed that I once had the impression that Fareed Zakaria had opinions to take seriously.

Percelus
Sep 9, 2012

My command, your wish is

JUICY HAMBUGAR posted:

I feel embarrassed that I once had the impression that Fareed Zakaria had opinions to take seriously.

:same:

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Byolante posted:

Somebody should ask how much american medical progress is from operation paperclip

basically zero, nazis were poo poo at medical research

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

mengele only did psycho poo poo instead of real research. the US probably got data from the japanese war criminal scientists but it was probably just for WMDs instead of medical research lol

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I wouldn't be surprised if we did learn something from their vivisections.

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

The Kingfish posted:

I wouldn't be surprised if we did learn something from their vivisections.

What would be possible that using recent corpses and animals couldn't?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)

Plutonis posted:

mengele only did psycho poo poo instead of real research. the US probably got data from the japanese war criminal scientists but it was probably just for WMDs instead of medical research lol

afaik the Unit 731 research was useless because they didn't have enough controls to prove anything.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



731 was garbage but the Nazis actually did make pretty significant accomplishments regarding public health, within the insanely specific parameters of the subgroup they regarded as the public, racially desirable Germans . despite that some of them were easily extrapolated onto general populations and were just good practice.

there are a few examples but what springs to mind is ovarian and breast cancer detection and treatment, characterized by a huge push for free mammograms (often performed in factories and stuff by traveling doctors) and quick treatment. also the whole anti smoking crusade.

we didn't get anything from mengeles gruesome experiments but Nazi science, even underpinned by wrongheaded racial assumptions, laid the foundation for a lot of important stuff in the world of cancer

my source is a great book called The Nazi War On Cancer which devotes a whole chapter to the question of using and interpreting Nazi data acquired through unethical means. interestingly many doctors chose not to use it at all even if it was relevant because they felt the data was sort of cosmologically tainted

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012



Plutonis posted:

What would be possible that using recent corpses and animals couldn't?

IIRC they acquired some meaningful data about blood loss and battlefield medicine, typically by shooting or wounding prisoners repeatedly and "treating" the wound, which wasn't exactly vivisection but did require live prisoners

ofc the vast majority of the quackery conducted by both the Nazi and Japanese regimes were useless abattoir style murder sprees but there are interesting questions surrounding the use of data that has already been gathered in a hosed up way

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


https://twitter.com/Milbank/status/984970156953792513

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
https://twitter.com/astrawednesday/status/985585270220345347?s=20

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


im the black flag

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


🎶 Every🌹 has its meeee. CTO @CrowdMed. @NYTimes-published Writer. Coder. Libertarian Socialist. Anarcha-Feminist. Zen Buddhist. Existentialist. Trans. She/her.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

This was a good article.

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

i'm the anarchist at the top of a corporate hierarchy

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/rainaftersno/status/985777685291974657

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

LuLaRoe or Youniquie?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

literally on video saying she was willing to accept constitutional restrictions on abortion

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...m=.1e6d7b990c85

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
I choose to believe this person just thinks the left should shrug and vote like the evangelicals on the right did, solely for a Supreme Court seat, because turnabout is fair play.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

🎶 Every🌹 has its meeee. CTO @CrowdMed. @NYTimes-published Writer. Coder. Libertarian Socialist. Anarcha-Feminist. Zen Buddhist. Existentialist. Trans. She/her.

Of course she's a white buddhist

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)


I can practically hear Hugh Hewitt sucking off Raytheon.

1982 Subaru Brat
Feb 2, 2007

by Athanatos

She's not wrong. This economy is optimized for financial services and rent-seeking, not producers or consumers.

But Rocks Hurt Head
Jun 30, 2003

by Hand Knit
Pillbug

1982 Subaru Brat posted:

She's not wrong. This economy is optimized for financial services and rent-seeking, not producers or consumers.

I think the hotness of the take is more related to her first sentence + her twitter name icons

Cyberpunkey Monkey
Jun 23, 2003

by Nyc_Tattoo

1982 Subaru Brat posted:

She's not wrong. This economy is optimized for financial services and rent-seeking, not producers or consumers.

They are the cancer that is killing America.

some plague rats
Jun 5, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

He's only wrong in that he intended the comparison as a compliment

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Re the Kendrick Lamar Pulitzer

Diet Crack posted:

"I got so many theories and suspicions
I'm diagnosed with real nigga conditions
Today is the day I follow my intuition
Keep the family close—get money, gently caress bitches"

Poetry in motion.

I can think of plenty of non-Jazz artists who are far more deserving for composing and engineering whole albums by themselves, but nope. Gotta give it to Kendrick for a rap album with a discourse about money and fuckin' bitches because it's what the masses like. It's not a veiled attempt to stay relevant or anything, no siree. I don't dislike his music or anything, I just think it's completely out of left field for such a conservative 'puritan' music award to suddenly change it's tune. Pun definitely intended.

Murray Mantoinette
Jun 11, 2005

THE  POSTS  MUST  FLOW
Clapping Larry

Party Boat posted:

Re the Kendrick Lamar Pulitzer

what was the intended pun?

sub supau
Aug 28, 2007

Murray Mantoinette posted:

what was the intended pun?

i think he thinks the "change it's tune" thing is a pun

because he's very stupid

Wraith of J.O.I.
Jan 25, 2012


https://twitter.com/davidklion/status/986304674453127168

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


I defend laizzes-faire capitalism, using Ayan Rand's Objectivism

Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

The Kingfish posted:

I defend laizzes-faire capitalism, using Ayan Rand's Objectivism

mods? name change?!

Plutonis
Mar 25, 2011

https://twitter.com/stereogum/status/986234742436696064

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

hahahahahah

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 17 days!)


Doesn't he know Hitler was a vegetarian?

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Modern Morrissey makes it really hard for me to enjoy The Smiths anymore.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

lmao fam

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Mordiceius posted:

Modern Morrissey makes it really hard for me to enjoy The Smiths anymore.

please don’t become broke brained. if you lack the emotional maturity to divorce art from artist you are a doomed reactionary.

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Junkiebev
Jan 18, 2002


Feel the progress.

nuclear

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