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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVkPT1i4LLQ Wonder how many promo ships they can whore out. Rx King fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Dec 2, 2019 |
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they released more promobox ships this year (5) than lockbox ships, truly amazing
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Dec 2, 2019 19:40
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Yeah it's pretty loving scummy.
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Dec 2, 2019 20:40
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What's the difference between a promobox and a lockbox?
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Dec 2, 2019 20:53
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Promo ships are 1) actually limited time, 2) come from DOFF or R&D packs which generally have nothing else really worth the effort of opening in them, and 3) have similar drop rates despite the packs being more expensive, and 4) are generally a lot flashier/stronger/more desirable than even lockbox boats to try and con people into opening their wallets. It's pure gambling exploitation without even the pretense of consolation prizes like a normal lockbox.
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Dec 2, 2019 20:57
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Asimo posted:Promo ships are 1) actually limited time, 2) come from DOFF or R&D packs which generally have nothing else really worth the effort of opening in them, and 3) have similar drop rates despite the packs being more expensive, and 4) are generally a lot flashier/stronger/more desirable than even lockbox boats to try and con people into opening their wallets. It's pure gambling exploitation without even the pretense of consolation prizes like a normal lockbox. Oh like when that JJ frigate came as part of some R&D packs. F that.
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Dec 2, 2019 21:10
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Asimo posted:Promo ships are 1) actually limited time, 2) come from DOFF or R&D packs which generally have nothing else really worth the effort of opening in them, and 3) have similar drop rates despite the packs being more expensive, and 4) are generally a lot flashier/stronger/more desirable than even lockbox boats to try and con people into opening their wallets. It's pure gambling exploitation without even the pretense of consolation prizes like a normal lockbox. Ironically, now that I’ve taken over the LP from Moon Slayer lockbox ships are way less attractive. Almost all of them make zero narrative sense, and they’re annoying if you run into other players flying them in group content.
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Dec 2, 2019 22:09
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There's no telling whether it is a copy/paste error or not because who the gently caress knows with STO but the mishmash of stats and abilities on the Jellyfish are horrible.
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Dec 2, 2019 22:48
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Coq au Nandos posted:Ironically, now that I’ve taken over the LP from Moon Slayer lockbox ships are way less attractive. Almost all of them make zero narrative sense, and they’re annoying if you run into other players flying them in group content. 
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Dec 2, 2019 23:11
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Asimo posted:Don't worry, all the recent promo boxes have been flashy canon ships instead of weird alien ones. Because God knows we can't just put hero ships in the store when we can wring thousands out of the whales. If they hadn't been available at launch when the game was sub-only, I bet the Defiant, Galaxy and Voyager class ships would be lockbox ships now.
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Dec 2, 2019 23:40
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An unprompted list of new species ships that Cryptic has made that don't suck to look at: Vadwaar Nakhul Tzenkethi End of list
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Dec 3, 2019 03:40
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Hunter Noventa posted:If they hadn't been available at launch when the game was sub-only, I bet the Defiant, Galaxy and Voyager class ships would be lockbox ships now. It's honestly rather disgusting. I bitched about the lock boxes when they were added and that hasn't changed, but they're at least more... fair? They even have some bad luck protection even if nothing tells you this. If you're purely F2P you can just buy most of the goodies and even a ship off the exchange once or twice per year without needing to exploit the economy. Good loving luck with a promo ship though, they invariably cap out the max price because the odds are so poo poo. It's just predatory and there's no excuse for it besides 
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Dec 3, 2019 08:40
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Asimo posted:I wouldn't be shocked to see new promo-only versions of those at some point too. Pilot Defiant, Flight deck cruiser galaxy, science dreadnought warship voyager, whatever, spend $500+ on gamble boxes and maybe get one, suckers. This may have gone away, I rolled over the old threshold by a hundred without it kicking in? Also the secondary lockbox prizes have really been diluted over the years. Most of it is crummy doff packs and boosts and the lobi store doesn't get much either. You get a costume with every box, but ships are few and far between. Y'all laughing about there being more promo ships than lockbox lately, but lobi ships are also becoming a relic of the past. The last lobi ship that wasn't a T5 update was like over a year ago now.
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Dec 3, 2019 09:46
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Yeah, I wouldn't put it past Cryptic to have taken that out at some point, especially since it wasn't publicized. Gotta eke out as much cash as possible from the whales, I guess? And to be honest I didn't even really think about how infrequent lockboxes had become, even if I did notice how abandoned the lobi shop was. Anything that doesn't give huge immediate cash influx just isn't worth bothering with I guess.  I don't want to get all reddit-whiny, but christ it's really blatant how little they give a gently caress about non-gambling players. Even the c-store has been relatively dry lately too, especially considering most of the recent disco promo boats would be the sort of thing they'd release on the shop once a month or so in the old days, probably with some big nine-pack of hero ships or something. But they can't even do that, I guess? I wonder how long it'll be until they get away with quietly retiring the c-store and just making everything a promo-style box reward instead, or just making a functionally new tier of ships and only giving them as promo drops. It sounds unlikely, but the fact we've had two free T6 c-store boat events so far this year shows that they're probably considering it a secondary revenue stream at best.
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Dec 3, 2019 11:44
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The worst part is I would glady trade Dil for Lobi to get a couple of the lobi-only ships.
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Dec 3, 2019 13:08
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Hunter Noventa posted:The worst part is I would glady trade Dil for Lobi to get a couple of the lobi-only ships. Buy keys, open boxes, get lobi. It isn’t a great conversion rate but it’s built into the game.
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Dec 3, 2019 14:41
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Phoenix boxes are just a permanent thing now it seems. They might be panicking about the exchange, but it probably also means no new stuff being added to it, all hail the mudd market and 60$ consoles. 
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Dec 4, 2019 01:31
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Cyrano4747 posted:Buy keys, open boxes, get lobi. It isn’t a great conversion rate but it’s built into the game. If I knew how to make enough EC to buy keys regularly, I'd use it for a ship. Endeavours and selling R+D mats only goes so far. I'd love to hear a better way though.
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Dec 4, 2019 02:23
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Flip items on the exchange. Find a commodity and learn what the high / low cycles are. I’d estimate I clear about 5m a day like that for about 30 seconds of buying and listing and that’s pretty modest.
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Dec 4, 2019 02:29
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Asimo posted:Phoenix boxes are just a permanent thing now it seems. They might be panicking about the exchange, but it probably also means no new stuff being added to it, all hail the mudd market and 60$ consoles. Is that official or just that they broke/forgot to end the phoenix event w/ the patch?
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Dec 4, 2019 03:25
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Is that official or just that they broke/forgot to end the phoenix event w/ the patch? I didn't see phoenix prize as available.
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Dec 4, 2019 03:28
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Cythereal posted:I didn't see phoenix prize as available. You can still buy them on the Dil store it seems. I picked up a 10-pack because I really love those 50k tech upgrades.
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Dec 4, 2019 03:42
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I do like those huge upgrades too. Gives me something to spend dil on besides Reputation gear.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Is that official or just that they broke/forgot to end the phoenix event w/ the patch? EDIT: Proof I guess! https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1202014145962397696?s=20 Asimo fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Dec 4, 2019 06:38
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Asimo posted:Phoenix boxes are just a permanent thing now it seems. They might be panicking about the exchange, but it probably also means no new stuff being added to it, all hail the mudd market and 60$ consoles. confirmed: https://twitter.com/trekonlinegame/status/1202014145962397696?s=21 that also means that crafting the experimental r&d upgrades is now futile as well, glad I already sold most of my r&d materials edit: didnt scroll down to the end Asimo was faster Teron D Amun fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Dec 4, 2019 09:17
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Asimo posted:Its official apparently. The boxes will just stay in the dil shop, while the weekend events with the free box per day won't appear again. hahaha gently caress Well since I'm half-whale it means I can now gamble for more Breen ships and the Ferengi warship whenever I want Fidel Cuckstro fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Dec 4, 2019 |
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Dec 4, 2019 10:00
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Is that official or just that they broke/forgot to end the phoenix event w/ the patch? ahahahahahah no dilex is forever hosed instead of occasionally seeing the dill exchange bumped down lower cryptic thinks the whales will never run out of dollars god, I wish I'd dumped my dil when this thread said so a little while back. I had so little to dump, and this game is like 20gb I couldn't afford to download, so I didn't. Guess I just just dump every dill the moment I can afford a single zen from here on out. No use waiting for a Phoenix weekend. Oh, and no more free Phoenix boxes because gently caress YOU that's why.
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Dec 4, 2019 10:24
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Yeah, it'll basically be permanently at 500 the second there's another promo or something else to push it up again since there's absolutely no downward pressure now. I have no loving idea what Cryptic is thinking at this point, but they obviously don't give a gently caress about common players ever buying realistic amounts of zen again. The only real upside is that this completely neutered the overcomplicated upgrade system and finally makes it a little more worth upgrading up more than 3-4 times per year. But that clearly isn't what they were trying to do here, so...
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Dec 4, 2019 12:04
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Whoever said they need to add in some personal bank slots or bags for vanity items and kit stuff...man that's true.
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Dec 5, 2019 07:10
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Well I got some real science magic working on my Mirror Nova finally. Man spamming Gravimetric Torps with Torpedo Spread is amazing.
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Fidel Cuckstro posted:Whoever said they need to add in some personal bank slots or bags for vanity items and kit stuff...man that's true.
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g0del posted:Assuming pets count as vanity items, agreed. Also, if they're going to keep dumping R&D mats on you for doing anything in game, they really need to increase the R&D inventory space. Just trash it all, its worthless. There's only a bare handful of things worth crafting and they all require either specific doffs or dil cost components to make, the mats have been devalued to the point they're completely pointless now
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Dec 6, 2019 19:34
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Yeah on the rare occasion that you actually need any just buy them off the exchange for next to nothing.
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Dec 6, 2019 19:38
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Hunter Noventa posted:Well I got some real science magic working on my Mirror Nova finally. Man spamming Gravimetric Torps with Torpedo Spread is amazing. Space magic is in a good place now. Improved Gravity Well from the science flavored Alliance pilot escort is a good use of the free T6. The escort itself is pretty fantastic too!
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Dec 6, 2019 21:37
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I threw some goodies in the Dental bank, Merry Christmas.
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Dec 7, 2019 20:16
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In case anyone was wondering what the full assimilated set looks like on a Bastion, I've been bored.
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Dec 7, 2019 21:17
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Cythereal posted:I've been bored. It's because you're playing STO.
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Dec 7, 2019 21:56
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Wizard of the Deep posted:It's because you're playing STO. Grinding it out wasn't too bad. One Hive Onslaught a day, it's usually pretty fast. Or Breach when that was running.
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faxmachine posted:I threw some goodies in the Dental bank, Merry Christmas. Thanks! Weird question: I have a title in my inventory that I can't interact with (except for moving it, but only with autosort). Is there any easy fix for that? 
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