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Just finished 15 hours and it’s one of the bleakest books I’ve ever read? Very 40k, love it
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Arquinsiel posted:Yeah that's only a hundred times what was dropped on Dresden. They'd probably want to drop way more to make a dent in a hive city. How much arty did they empty into Vraks during the Siege? When the goal was literally getting the 1 in a million shot by shooting a million shells (equivalent anyway).
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Dec 1, 2022 06:25
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Dec 1, 2022 08:51
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This also applies to money
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Dec 1, 2022 10:08
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Spear of the Emperor was pretty good
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Dec 1, 2022 11:15
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Decided to read the first Siege of Terra novel and it was terribly boring, just absolutely bland nonsense. Are the rest any better or should I just skip to the Wraight/Abnett/ADB novels?
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Dec 1, 2022 16:26
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You can pretty much skip to Echoes of Eternity. Avoid Mortis like the plague.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:30
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I think they have all been pretty bad. I don't think i have finished one SOT book. edit This is just my opinion. By bad I mean "I did not enjoy them" euphronius fucked around with this message at 17:19 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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Dec 1, 2022 17:04
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Saturnine was really good, Warhawk was really good, the rest have been ok (Echoes) to bad (literally everything I didn’t name)
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Dec 1, 2022 17:17
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Saturnine was really good, Warhawk was really good, the rest have been ok (Echoes) to bad (literally everything I didn’t name) I would reverse the positions of Echoes and Saturnine but otherwise this is accurate.
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Dec 1, 2022 17:23
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I’m back into Horus Heresy books and I’m reading Galaxy in Flames. I gotta say, there is far too much talking from pathetic not-Astartes and too little of Astartes and Primarchs killin and doin poo poo. Also, fuckin Sindermann just goes on-and-on-and-on-and-on-and-on when he talks, saying nothing at all.
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Dec 1, 2022 18:10
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rufius posted:I’m back into Horus Heresy books and I’m reading Galaxy in Flames. I gotta say, there is far too much talking from pathetic not-Astartes and too little of Astartes and Primarchs killin and doin poo poo. Yeah he's a propagandist for a fascist-by-design hellstate. Talking for a long time and saying absolutely nothing is like, his job.
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Dec 1, 2022 18:12
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I think all the Siege books are good except saturnine and to a lesser extent mortis. Echoes might be my favorite.
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Dec 1, 2022 18:38
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orphean posted:Remember to always add extra bonus 0s to any number Black Library publishes.
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Dec 1, 2022 19:41
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Biplane posted:I think all the Siege books are good except saturnine and to a lesser extent mortis. Echoes might be my favorite. Saturnine is so moody though.
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Dec 1, 2022 19:59
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Now that I check, Abnett seems to have pretty much no standalone stuff other than Titanicus and Brothers of the Snake, and even those are subsidiary Sabbat Worlds stories. (I’m a bit worried about The Armour of Contempt and His Last Command - they’re the ones that no one seems to ever mention liking) FPyat fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Dec 1, 2022 |
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Dec 1, 2022 20:28
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FPyat posted:Now that I check, Abnett seems to have pretty much no standalone stuff other than Titanicus and Brothers of the Snake, and even those are subsidiary Sabbat Worlds stories. They're both good but they really only work well in the context of the Lost arc. The Lost is just brutally depressing throughout the four books and those two in particular hammer home how far the Ghosts have dragged themselves and how many are left. Right before the sledgehammer of Only In Death reminds you that things absolutely can get worse.
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Dec 1, 2022 20:43
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Saturnine is one of the best BL books of all time, y’all tripping.
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Arc Hammer posted:They're both good but they really only work well in the context of the Lost arc. The Lost is just brutally depressing throughout the four books and those two in particular hammer home how far the Ghosts have dragged themselves and how many are left. Right before the sledgehammer of Only In Death reminds you that things absolutely can get worse.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:19
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My favourite Siege book is still Warhawk.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:30
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I recently finished The Damnation of Pythos. Pretty good book. It doesn't really advance the HH's plot but it's got good characterization and fun acrion scenes. The ending and epilogue are especially grimdark in a way I appreciate.
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Dec 1, 2022 21:42
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Saturnine is one of the best BL books of all time, y’all tripping. I find primarchs to be incredibly corny
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Dec 1, 2022 22:08
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Saturnine is one of the best BL books of all time, y’all tripping. It's trite bolter porn with serial deus ex machinas, even if it didn't hang on a gambit everyone knows will fail. I mean, if it scrarched the right spot for folks, good for them. But it moves exactly zero stories forward, while having barely any good character moments/development.
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Dec 1, 2022 22:48
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Saturnine is one of the best BL books of all time, y’all tripping. I don't know why I didn't like it as much as Echoes, and that bugs me. All I know is that Echoes worked for me, while Saturnine was just "fine".
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Dec 1, 2022 23:01
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Sephyr posted:It's trite bolter porn with serial deus ex machinas, even if it didn't hang on a gambit everyone knows will fail. I mean, this opinion just can go right into the trash can. Insofar as the book has a failing, a point I will not admit to, it’s too focused on character development. This is the book where we first see hints of 40K Abbadon; this is the book where Fulgrim’s arc reaches its climax and he abandons all loyalty to anything but himself; this is the book where Mortarion’s psychology and motivation come into focus (to be excellent developed in Warhawk); the book gives suitable sendoffs to Jenetia Krole, Horus Aximand and Camba-Diaz. The self-contained story arcs (Hari Harr and Olly Piers, Clement Brohn, Basilio Fo) are appropriately touching, funny, and sad. The book even advances the metaplot to the extent that it brings the Dark Angela to Sol, sets the stage for Perturabo’s later abandonment of the Siege, and takes the Mournival off the board. I suppose if you’re reading the Siege series with a Wikipedia page and a checklist open, Saturnine may seem disappointing, but the entire rest of the series (outside of Warhawk and to a lesser degree Echoes) feels like a dreary box-checking exercise in comparison.
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Dec 1, 2022 23:03
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Jenetia Krole's last stand might be my favourite passage in all of WH. The Lost and the Damned is a pretty solid book. Might be Haley's best.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I mean, this opinion just can go right into the trash can. Insofar as the book has a failing, a point I will not admit to, it’s too focused on character development. I thought Perty's bit was in "The First Wall". Personally the whole series like they felt to constrained by what had already been written. The Space War takes a comparative minute to finish, then it just DRAGS as it tries to describe the seventeenth way that forces of the Imperium are failing to hold. This is particularly bad in Mortis, and not helped by the characters not being able to put together that warp entities might be doing morale damage to their troops. Echoes at least had a few bits where the Imperium feels triumphant (and some payoff to Warhawk) with Sanguinious' fight and the ending. You can sum up two and a half books with "And then the point was lost." And I just realized I've spent the past several months thinking that Gav Thorpe and Guy Haley are the same guy, and I'm not sure why.
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https://youtu.be/bi6wG3imbAc
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I mean, this opinion just can go right into the trash can. Insofar as the book has a failing, a point I will not admit to, it’s too focused on character development. Admittedly, I don't care about the Perpetuals sideplot. So that is a big factor in my not caring for that book. As for the rest? Hard disagree. Oh no, the all-important mournival is gone! It's not like they stopped being any factor twenty books back. In fact, one of my main issues with the whole Heresy is how secondary the sons of horus and Horus himself are. Fulgrim's arc was pretty much already concluded in Slaves to Darkness, when it takes being magically bound to even get him to come to Terra. In fact, a lot of the events of Saturnine are just retreads: Aximand had been merc'd really early in the series, did nothing since, then re-merc'd for good. Fulgrim had bugged out to do raves and warp dust after ascending past Angel Exterminatus, and now he bugs off again. I mean, they were so starved for meaningful events they somehow kill Falkus Kibre, who is alive in the current continuity. And Mortarion's bit is much better done in Warhawk.
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Sephyr posted:I mean, they were so starved for meaningful events they somehow kill Falkus Kibre, who is alive in the current continuity.
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I feel like I've read an entirely different series of books compared to some folks in the thread. I can't say the criticisms aren't justified, but my peasant mind has mostly enjoyed SoT.
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orphean posted:Remember to always add extra bonus 0s to any number Black Library publishes. Always add a few zeroes to scifi and subtract a few zeroes from historical sources and fantasy
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Pro click right here, I was grinning like the drunken idiot I am throughout.
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I’m not sure I’m gonna make it through Galaxy in Flames. Ben Counter is like a bad GRRM, spending endless paragraphs describing every vein and mole one Horus’s dick. Sweet gently caress what a boring book.
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rufius posted:I’m not sure I’m gonna make it through Galaxy in Flames. Ben Counter is like a bad GRRM, spending endless paragraphs describing every vein and mole one Horus’s dick. You should read Battle for the Abyss then, it's his most outstanding book yet. Angry Lobster fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 2, 2022 |
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rufius posted:I’m not sure I’m gonna make it through Galaxy in Flames. Ben Counter is like a bad GRRM, spending endless paragraphs describing every vein and mole one Horus’s dick. All I want to know is if Horus is cut or uncut
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lonelylikezoidberg posted:All I want to know is if Horus is cut or uncut first we need to know whether or not he's actually Italian
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The flesh is weak.
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I can’t place the voice Toby Longworth does for Gaunt. Gotta be taken from war movies, just don’t know which one.
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War and Pieces posted:first we need to know whether or not he's actually Italian Stealing Italian valor is the greatest heresy of all.
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