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Vahakyla posted:Let's sacrifice FDR on the altar of ideological purity. His family has been New York Old Money since before it was New York. Like some rich 1%er could ever give a gently caress about the working man.
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Cracker King posted:I hope some talking head pundit can draw attention to the fact that the latest Trump Tweet he specifically says "I" did not record. I think the "I" is more about proving face saving for the long and drawn out maybe lying series of statements about tapes. He wasn't delaying answering to intimidate Comey, he was checking if any of his staff was secretly taping him. Not obstruction! You're obstruction!
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Trabisnikof posted:To translate. Ok, I was able to figure the others out, but please help me parse #2
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Jun 22, 2017 20:06
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haveblue posted:Are the things Cruz is asking for compatible with reconciliation? Yes, just not with humanity.
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Dick Trauma posted:Guillotine production was sent overseas in 1994 and now no one will export them back to us because we can't certify that they won't be used to perform executions. Yeah, well, we don't want 'em anyway. I hear that "the gays" use them in their sex rituals.
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Boon posted:Tim Ryan tried to unseat Pelosi after the election, so yes, of course he did. Care to identify anything in his post that's wrong?
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Jun 22, 2017 20:07
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Lemming posted:How is "tons of people who rely on Medicaid for healthcare during pregnancy are going to get hosed over" an exaggeration or lie The tweet said "Pregnancy will make women ineligible to enroll Medicaid." This is not the case. Even the tweeter corrected himself: https://mobile.twitter.com/DavMicRot/status/877939968626237441
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Jun 22, 2017 20:08
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Is it even possible for them to amend this, get a new CBO score, and then vote on it before the recess? Seems like their whole timeline is based on having submitted it to the CBO early so they can have the score lined up by next week. And they need that score under reconciliation rules, no?
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Jun 22, 2017 20:08
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Zikan posted:https://twitter.com/foxreports/status/877962763493978112 I think that 1 is effectively complete abolition of insurance regulations and that won't fly, 4 is essentially that we must end medicaid and i don't know he can get that, its hard to tell what 2 is but it seems like it's block grants which i assume can't be gotten through. 3 seems like it has a lot of things they could easily throw in to give him a bone. What most strikes me about this is he's clearly positioning himself to be able to say he negotiated, they didn't, blame them for the bill's failure. On the other hand, I don't think he wants to be the decisive vote killing this. I think its a good sign but i'm still inclined to think it's going to pass.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:08
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Kekekela posted:Ok, I was able to figure the others out, but please help me parse #2 That means turning medicaid into a slush fund for Republican governors and legislatures to use for things that have nothing to do with healthcare
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Jun 22, 2017 20:08
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Trabisnikof posted:4. Massive Medicaid cuts.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:09
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mcmagic posted:Ron Johnson is at around the intelligence level of a Fox and Friends host. Elotana posted:I think RonJon can read a poll. He's stated this is his last term, so the polling probably doesn't mean poo poo for him.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:10
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Kekekela posted:Ok, I was able to figure the others out, but please help me parse #2 Republicans have forever wanted Medicaid to switch from a federal program where states have varying amounts of flexibility to a "block grant" program where states can do whatever the gently caress they want with the money. That would allow red states to be as evil with the program as they want.
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Elotana posted:Lol this bill literally allows states to zero out medicaid and shove everyone on the exchanges, what the gently caress more do you want? requiring them to do that
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Jun 22, 2017 20:10
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Nonsense posted:Kennedy retiring Monday would be the cherry on top. Wait, What? At this point i think we need to setup a go fund me for giving scotus members blood transfusions from 18 year olds. we can't afford another Trump SCOTUS pick.
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aware of dog posted:The tweet said "Pregnancy will make women ineligible to enroll Medicaid." This is not the case. Even the tweeter corrected himself: Fair, I jumped the gun. Sorry.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:11
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https://twitter.com/Chemzes/status/877962841327714304 https://twitter.com/MatthewNussbaum/status/877965347483201539 https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/877964620480167937 https://twitter.com/JohnJHarwood/status/877966851128668161 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/877964632643719168 https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/877965795992764416 uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh  https://twitter.com/chrislhayes/status/877964123530608641 "Kennedy is hosting an unusual alumni luncheon" https://twitter.com/Variety/status/877966977985265664
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Sloober posted:He's stated this is his last term, so the polling probably doesn't mean poo poo for him. he also just won re-election he has 6 years to walk that back
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Jun 22, 2017 20:11
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Zikan posted:https://twitter.com/foxreports/status/877962763493978112 If Cruz and company got even half this it would make the bill too toxic for even 'moderate' republicans, right?
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Xae posted:His family has been New York Old Money since before it was New York. Like some rich 1%er could ever give a gently caress about the working man. The rich can have empathy. Many don't but you've got good examples like Charles Darwin's fierce opposition to slavery. You can be a man for the people without being a man of the people. (That said, despite his hatred of slavery Darwin didn't see anything wrong with the conditions of the British working class so...)
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Ah, the "pro-life" party. Abortion must be banned since they claim to consider it murder, but who cares if the pregnant woman receives healthcare, which may be critical to the survival of the fetus? I guess for them if any thing happens to their health it's divine will?
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Aves Maria! posted:lol, I will laugh if Zodiac Killer blows poo poo up again because he's too obsessed with being the Jeezaus hero Reminder Z-Killer's father drilled it into his childhood mind that he was going to be St. Reagan's one truth regressive messiah .
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Jun 22, 2017 20:13
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Cabbit posted:If Cruz and company got even half this it would make the bill too toxic for even 'moderate' republicans, right? loving lol
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Jun 22, 2017 20:13
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Cabbit posted:If Cruz and company got even half this it would make the bill too toxic for even 'moderate' republicans, right? he might be able to get block grants, I do not think he can get #1 (everyone knows that means "there's the one billion dollar a year plan that covers pre-existing conditions, and there's all these others that don't!), I dont think he can get 4 which reads to me as abolish medicaid entirely, and he can probably easily get 3
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Cabbit posted:If Cruz and company got even half this it would make the bill too toxic for even 'moderate' republicans, right? If Cruz gets #1 there is literally no insurance regulation in this country anymore.
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Jun 22, 2017 20:14
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Kennedy retiring is a horrifying prospect
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Aves Maria! posted:lol, I will laugh if Ted Cruz blows poo poo up again because he's too obsessed with being the shakespearean hero 
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B B posted:Care to identify anything in his post that's wrong? Yeah sure. It's easy to point to flaws without solutions. The Democrats have put out plenty of solutions including everything he mentioned. Many D policies including those championed by Clinton AND Sanders were contested at best and are what Ryan is pushing now, and don't you dare mention the word tax raise. Maybe you can blame the messenger. Ryan has the luxury to lob bombs from his perch, but apparently no ability to articulate a vision, at least not in that article. E: edited to be more concise. I'll also note that the D's have a huge problem, not often discussed, in the fact that organized labor as a funding source has been so completely crippled. Boon fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jun 22, 2017 |
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/Chemzes/status/877962841327714304 Speaking of sexual assault, a girl was raped on Bachelor in Paradise(a Bachelor spin-off), on camera, essentially black out drunk, and a producer that witnessed it filed a complaint. But she has always been coded as a villain and bimbo on the show, the show did a review and announced no charges, she's kicked off the show and has been cut off of all social media from all former participants in the show and completely ostracized. It is supremely a hosed up situation and to make matters worse any news you find on it is just slut shaming her.
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Party Plane Jones posted:
Jesus gently caress, if he actually does retire, that's going to be some horrible loving poo poo.
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Party Plane Jones posted:
Surely he knows better than to do this right?
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I take a small bit of pleasure in the fact that every day Cruz is forced to remember he was beaten by Trump.
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Not a Children posted:lmao how in the blue gently caress did they convince young people to line up to catch a bullet after growing up in crippling poverty They were drafted and they heard about Pearl Harbor. Also yes, given that the average physical revealed that something like 25% of draftees were 4H due issues traced to childhood malnutrition, three squares a day after a decade+ of financial hardship went a long way.
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:Surely he knows better than to do this right? It's possible he doesn't really have a choice, like maybe he's been diagnosed with an illness that will prevent him from continuing as a justice or something. We won't know until it happens, if it does. If it's just a normal retirement, though, I'm thinking history might not end up looking back on him very kindly.
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Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/Variety/status/877966977985265664 Bill Cosby can go gently caress himself.
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ThisIsWhyTrumpWon posted:Surely he knows better than to do this right? He could announce he's planning to retire after the 2018 elections, which could be helpful. It doesn't have to be true, it's not like there's a "No take backsies" rule.
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Party Plane Jones posted:uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Don't worry, I'm sure in an effort to reach out in a bipartisan manner he will appoint Merrick Garlahahahhahahhaahaha.
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So if Kennedy retires, once Roe v Wade is gone, will abortion be basically illegal until the supreme court can be purged of republicans, so like, 5-6 generations? Or what? e: and gay marriage too I assume
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Kennedy knows if he retires, gay rights go bye bye And bodily autonomy
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