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Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
let us make america grape again

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spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

Third World Reggin posted:

let us make america gape again

Walker 2016

Pompous Rhombus
Mar 11, 2007

EugeneJ posted:

But correcting herself when going to say "Hillary Clinton" and switching her phrasing to "the opposing candidate" mid-sentence is suspicious as gently caress - who is she pleasing by doing that?

#berngazi

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

Third World Reggin posted:

let us make america grape again

That's racist

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Joementum posted:

My working theory is that Donald Trump is not an experienced or serious politician.

Additionally I have serious doubts that he actually wants to be President so much as loves running for President.

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

Here To Help posted:

Sometimes people identify a problem and begin to make honest attempts to enact change. These people can become angry or frustrated when they feel they are not being heard. This can result in a loss of social control which makes them appear spiteful, hypocritical & mean spirited. At large this may harm the movement they identify with which is why being a leader is so difficult (it requires endless patience).


Actually sjw's are just angry hateful people who justify their hate-spewing with a thin veneer of progressiveness. Them and the tea party are just two sides of the same coin.

It's a great example of how easy it is to co-opt leftist extremist movements, say the right things and these morons lap it right up (much like how the tea party was created).

1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo

Gyges posted:

Additionally I have serious doubts that he actually wants to be President so much as loves running for President.

It does look like a pretty fun time if you can afford it.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

echronorian posted:

That's racist

It's just a fact that America has been grape since Concord.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
Every media company wants a piece of Trump right now. He hasn't had it so good in years.

tsa
Feb 3, 2014

Brannock posted:

the best way to piss off sheltered whites is to prevent them from participating in their god-given right to drive around in our horrible car culture

They do realize 'sheltered whites' agreeing with you is a requirement for any movement that is actually going to change things, right? Like they didn't notice how gay rights were done?

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Agrajag posted:

Every media company wants a piece of Trump right now. He hasn't had it so good in years.
Maybe I missed it, but did anyone notice that he responded to the blood comment earlier by saying that anyone who thinks he meant that was a sick person?

Miltank
Dec 27, 2009

by XyloJW
A 'deviant' lol

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien
It was actually Ebola

tsa
Feb 3, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCwhlZtHhWs

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
A Biden-Trump presidential debate would be a glorious perfect storm

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"
This article is a pretty good display of the gap between the Republican consultant class and the base:

http://www.businessinsider.com/john-kasich-carly-fiorina-debate-winners-2015-8

quote:

Four years ago, at a Republican presidential debate moderated by Fox News host Megyn Kelly, a gay soldier asked GOP candidates a question.

"Do you intend to circumvent the progress that's been made for gay and lesbian soldiers in the military?" the soldier asked.

The crowd booed.

Fast forward four years to the first Republican presidential primary debate of the 2016 election — moderated, again, by Fox News host Megyn Kelly.

"Gov. Kasich, if you had a son or daughter who was gay or lesbian, how would you explain to them your opposition to same-sex marriage?" Kelly asked Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R), who was the 10th and final candidate to have qualified for the debate.

Kasich's answer left the hometown crowd in Ohio cheering.

"And guess what? I just went to a wedding of a friend of mine who happens to be gay," Kasich said. "Because somebody doesn't think the way I do doesn't mean that I can't care about them or I can't love them. So if one of my daughters happened to be that, of course I would love them, and I would accept them. Because you know what? That's what we're taught when we have strong faith."

It was one standout moment in a performance that earned rave reviews for Kasich, who barely even made the debate stage but ended up as one of its clear winners, according to political strategists and observers. Along with former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, who was part of the second-tier debate earlier in the day, the two under-the-radar candidates emerged with clear momentum from debate No. 1.

"Kasich came out on top," one veteran Republican strategist said.

"Kasich is killing it. Hopeful. Uplifting. Optimistic. And he has an appeal to those who think the GOP doesn't care," tweeted Ari Fleischer, the former press secretary in President George W. Bush's White House.

That seemed to be the broad consensus across the consultant class. In fact, as The New York Times' Maggie Haberman wrote in the paper's "First Draft" morning newsletter, Kasich essentially "introduced himself to the rest of the country as a conservative more in the vein of" George W. Bush than his brother, GOP candidate and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush (R).

It became clear Thursday that Kasich is not a candidate in the mold of former Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman, who was often thrown around as a potential comparison.

He sympathized with the sentiments of voters who have turned to Republican front-runner Donald Trump, admitting he had tapped into an "anger." And on the biggest potential stumbling block of his night — when he was asked about his decision to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act — he stressed a message of compassion.

"I had an opportunity to bring resources back to Ohio," he said. "To do what? To treat the mentally ill. Ten thousand of them sit in our prisons, at $22,500 a year. I'd rather get them the medication so they can lead a decent life."

He seemed to have a hunch that he had a good night.

"From what I understand, Twitter's kind of blowing up about me tonight," he told reporters after the debate.

Hours earlier, Twitter blew up about another candidate — Fiorina, the former Hewlett Packard CEO. If there was a candidate from the second-tier debate that could move into the top 10 in CNN's prime-time debate next month, the consensus was that it was not Texas Gov. Rick Perry — it was Fiorina.

She cast herself to a receptive audience as a political outsider; one who wouldn't be afraid to "throw a punch." She delivered harsh critiques of Democratic front-runner and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. And she wasn't afraid to throw punches at Trump, even tying him to the Clintons.

"I didn't get a phone call from Bill Clinton before I jumped in the race," she said, referencing a report of a phone call between the two just weeks before Trump's entry into the presidential race. "Any of you get a phone call from Bill Clinton? I didn't. Maybe it's because I haven't given money to the foundation or donated to his wife's Senate campaign."

What clinched it — at least for many conservatives on social media — was an interview between Fiorina and left-leaning MSNBC host Chris Matthews shortly after the first debate.

"Go through your list of where she's lied," Matthews told Fiorina, who had made the charge about Clinton.

And go through the list she did.

"I will ask her, for example, how she can possibly continue to defend Planned Parenthood. I will ask her why she continues to say she's a champion of the middle class, while every single proposal she puts forward makes 'crony capitalism' worse and worse and worse, which makes income inequality worse," Fiorina said.

"I would ask her why she declared victory in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2011. Why she called [Syrian President] Bashar al-Assad a 'positive reformer.' Why she thought she could stop [Russian President Vladimir] Putin's ambition, a man I have met, with a gimmicky red 'reset button.' I'll ask her why she got every single foreign-policy issue wrong as secretary of state."

"That's how I'll debate her," she declared. "On the issues."

Fiorina isn't on that level yet. But come next month, if the reception to her debate performance in Round 1 was any indication, she could very likely be on stage with Kasich in prime-time.

"Carly Fiorina clearly belongs on the big stage," said Greg Valliere, the chief political strategist at the Potomac Research Group. "She was scary good in the early debate."

Is there any genuine enthusiasm among the Republican rank and file for Kasich and Fiorina?

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Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien

Abner Cadaver II posted:

A Biden-Trump presidential debate would be a glorious perfect storm

Honestly I just want as many candidates running as humanly possible.

EXTREME INSERTION
Jun 4, 2011

by LadyAmbien
I want a hunger games 2016

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Round-up of Trump on the Sunday morning talk shows:

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2015/08/09/sotu-tapper-trump-i-did-nothing-wrong-whatsoever.cnn

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/trump-what-i-said-was-appropriate-n406661

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-offers-apologies-blood-comments/story?id=32965158

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-i-will-be-phenomenal-to-the-women/

Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

My dad thinks he's not a republican (the human capacity for self-deluding is amazing) and he's been trying to talk up Carly and thinks she's actually even a good businesswoman. (He's not a very good businessman).

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!

EXTREME INSERTION posted:

Honestly I just want as many candidates running as humanly possible.

:agreed:
I hope sanders' early success is making other Democratic presidential hopefuls consider throwing in (since he needs VP material).

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Joementum posted:

Alternate joke: Chafee rally completely free of protesters, a clear sign he's the candidate of racial justice.

Cant hold a KKK rally if you dont have anyone to rally with!

Lincoln Chafee: Your no-expectations candidate for an unenthusiastic tomorrow.

Xanderkish
Aug 10, 2011

Hello!

tsa posted:

Actually sjw's are just angry hateful people who justify their hate-spewing with a thin veneer of progressiveness. Them and the tea party are just two sides of the same coin.

It's a great example of how easy it is to co-opt leftist extremist movements, say the right things and these morons lap it right up (much like how the tea party was created).

The fun thing about the word SJW is that, like magic, it becomes whatever its user wants it to be.

I've seen so many people doing good and sincere work get labeled as SJWs that the term is utterly meaningless to me, except insofar as it tells me more about the person using the term than anyone else.

Although the winner for me was seeing Gamergaters label female videogame journalists and feminists in videogames SJWs and claiming they were trying to harass other people who didn't fit their worldview out of videogames, which was exactly what the Gamergaters were actually doing.

Rocks
Dec 30, 2011

Joementum posted:

My working theory is that Donald Trump is not an experienced or serious politician.

Fair point, but he's obviously not a dumb guy.

Gyges posted:

Additionally I have serious doubts that he actually wants to be President so much as loves running for President.

This could be closer to the truth I suppose. Too bad IMHO

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007

That CNN interview is pro

Probad
Feb 24, 2013

I want to believe!

Neurolimal posted:

Cant hold a KKK rally if you dont have anyone to rally with!

Lincoln Chafee: Your no-expectations candidate for an unenthusiastic tomorrow.

Lincoln Chafee: If everyone else died in a plane crash.

Hadaka Apron
Feb 12, 2015

Xanderkish posted:

The fun thing about the word SJW is that, like magic, it becomes whatever its user wants it to be.

I've seen so many people doing good and sincere work get labeled as SJWs that the term is utterly meaningless to me, except insofar as it tells me more about the person using the term than anyone else.

Although the winner for me was seeing Gamergaters label female videogame journalists and feminists in videogames SJWs and claiming they were trying to harass other people who didn't fit their worldview out of videogames, which was exactly what the Gamergaters were actually doing.

I prefer the non-partisan term "outrage warriors."

Let's be fair, anti-GG is very good at bullying their own.



Robotnik Nudes
Jul 8, 2013

I'm proud that I still don't know any details about Gamergate aside from the shocking revelation that the constructed consumer identity that is Nerd Culture is swamped with misogyny.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:
Oh my god please get GamerGate and "SJW" out of here. I'm begging you.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
i will only vote for a #gamergate supporter for president #ihatewomen #itsaboutgamejournalism

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Hadaka Apron posted:

I prefer the non-partisan term "outrage warriors."

Let's be fair, anti-GG is very good at bullying their own.





I hope all involved get in a better place mentally.

Probad
Feb 24, 2013

I want to believe!
Cruz plays video games, right? He's probably pretty close.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

zakharov posted:

Oh my god please get GamerGate and "SJW" out of here. I'm begging you.

gg is the pressing civil rights issue of our time, we elected a gay kenyan socialist for president, sexism is over.

Donovan Trip
Jan 6, 2007
Can't stump the trump

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Robotnik Nudes posted:

I'm proud that I still don't know any details about Gamergate aside from the shocking revelation that the constructed consumer identity that is Nerd Culture is swamped with misogyny.

Why in god's name are you talking about GamerGate poo poo in this thread?

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

echronorian posted:

Can't stump the trump

He will win it all.

Abner Cadaver II
Apr 21, 2009

TONIGHT!
which candidate will finally outlaw video games?

Hadaka Apron
Feb 12, 2015

Nonsense posted:

I hope all involved get in a better place mentally.

Couldn't agree with you more. I'll drop the subject now.

Third World Reagan
May 19, 2008

Imagine four 'mechs waiting in a queue. Time works the same way.
Black people love Trump

#BLM #Gamergate

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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

i wish my door was made of actual wood

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