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IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

alg posted:

$30 star wars product coming out for Force Friday. Hopefully it's a new core set with decent X-Wings :getin:

A product? That could mean like... anything. A book, a toy lightsaber, a collectable Snoke drinky-bird...

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alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

FFG doesn't make that stuff and sell it at FLGS.

DogCop
Aug 6, 2008

Bake him away, toys.
It could still be for Destiny, Armada, Imperial Assault, Rebellion or even one of their RPGs though.

overdesigned
Apr 10, 2003

We are compassion...
Lipstick Apathy
Don't care, I want to believe.

Brunas
Nov 5, 2012

alg posted:

My FLGS owner wouldn't spill any details.

Wait, that was here? I didn't see who posted it to Reddit. That's really interesting.

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Brunas posted:

Wait, that was here? I didn't see who posted it to Reddit. That's really interesting.

I didn't post it to Reddit, just found out about it at the store.

Brunas
Nov 5, 2012

alg posted:

I didn't post it to Reddit, just found out about it at the store.

Ah gotcha, did you hear anything more than was posted on Reddit? Not sure if there was a release date or anything. Presumably it'll be announced at gencon!

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

banned from Starbucks posted:

Good bet although the trailer makes it look massive

what trailer?

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Raged posted:

what trailer?

the one from episode 8

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
I assume he means these:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
I did. I figured they were smaller based off the Lego set and such. I like being wrong.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Large based ship.
Statline is 3/2/4/5 with a 180 degree forward arc. Action bar has Focus and Target Lock.
Has 2 crew slots, 2 bomb slots, 2 torpedo slots, 2 missile slots, a systems slot, a tech slot, and a dial that's a U-Wing but with a white 5K turn.
The generic Resistance Bomber is 25 points, with an EPT. It includes a zero point title Revenge Fleet (not unique), which reads that the ship may ignore the "small ship only" restriction when equipping upgrade cards.
Deadeye torpedo scouts are back and worse than ever.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
An IG agressor title that let them ignore small ship only restriction would be pretty dope and not OP, given them downside.

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?
Lol how does the thing that literally doesn't move in the trailer have two agility

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Its a jumpmaster joke

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

banned from Starbucks posted:

Its a jumpmaster joke

it's this

hoiyes posted:

An IG agressor title that let them ignore small ship only restriction would be pretty dope and not OP, given them downside.

But serioustalk, I wonder if we see in the future a ship that gets to break the rules on upgrades like that.
Thus far, small ship only upgrades are Juke, Lightning Reflexes, Intensity, Deadeye, Selflessness, Primed Thrusters, Cloaking Device, and Vectored Thrusters.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





canyoneer posted:

it's this


But serioustalk, I wonder if we see in the future a ship that gets to break the rules on upgrades like that.
Thus far, small ship only upgrades are Juke, Lightning Reflexes, Intensity, Deadeye, Selflessness, Primed Thrusters, Cloaking Device, and Vectored Thrusters.

Do ya'll *really* want to see Intensity/Cloaking device brobots? I mean, I don't. What would decloak on a large-base ship look like, anyway? That's like a four-straight to either side, as written.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
I'm content with an expansion that gives me 3-4 Primed Thrusters upgrade cards so that I don't have to go buy 3 more HotR sets.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

ConfusedUs posted:

Do ya'll *really* want to see Intensity/Cloaking device brobots? I mean, I don't. What would decloak on a large-base ship look like, anyway? That's like a four-straight to either side, as written.

Naah I expect it will be something like the Snuggling Compartment mod, that allows a specific ship or two to use upgrades they usually could not.

Intensity brobots would be nutso. Get B and C together, boost for an evade and focus on the first engagement, ewww.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

ConfusedUs posted:

Do ya'll *really* want to see Intensity/Cloaking device brobots? I mean, I don't. What would decloak on a large-base ship look like, anyway? That's like a four-straight to either side, as written.

Yes I do, and it'd make agressors viable as a wingman rather than a pretty fixed archetype.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

canyoneer posted:

Naah I expect it will be something like the Snuggling Compartment mod, that allows a specific ship or two to use upgrades they usually could not.

Intensity brobots would be nutso. Get B and C together, boost for an evade and focus on the first engagement, ewww.

I mean, PTL adv sensors can already do this so it's not that big a deal.

Devlan Mud
Apr 10, 2006




I'll hear your stories when we come back, alright?

hoiyes posted:

I mean, PTL adv sensors can already do this so it's not that big a deal.

The stress hurts a hell of a lot more on the Aggressor dial than a dual card flip.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

Devlan Mud posted:

The stress hurts a hell of a lot more on the Aggressor dial than a dual card flip.

That's why you advanced sensor greens and bump to slow roll.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

hoiyes posted:

That's why you advanced sensor greens and bump to slow roll.

Still trading off Fire Control Systems which is a big part of what makes the offense work these days

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
Conjecture: Resistance Bombers expansion introduces TLJ Leia crew card who allows you to flip the table, give the opponent the double deuce, and then throw your opponent's spaceships into a trash compactor.

It will later be errata'd that you can only give your opponent a SINGLE deuce.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





My top wishes for X-Wing:

A viable Luke card
A viable Leia card
A rotation to remove old lovely cards from competitive play

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

canyoneer posted:

Still trading off Fire Control Systems which is a big part of what makes the offense work these days

Just roll natties hhii

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

ConfusedUs posted:

My top wishes for X-Wing:

A viable Luke card
A viable Leia card
A rotation to remove old lovely cards from competitive play

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

ConfusedUs posted:

My top wishes for X-Wing:

A viable Luke card
A viable Leia card
A rotation to remove old lovely cards from competitive play

What constitutes old lovely cards?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
ROLL INITIATIVE!!





Every T65. Every a wing. Every b wing. The TIE advanced. Interceptors. Y wings that aren't ps2 generics. The HWK 290.

Rotate these out and rebuild them with modern design and without some of the truly ridiculous pilot abilities that keep a handful of pilots relevant and stifle upgrades out of fear of making them too good. (Biggs, Soontir, etc)

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

ConfusedUs posted:

Every T65. Every a wing. Every b wing. The TIE advanced. Interceptors. Y wings that aren't ps2 generics. The HWK 290.

Rotate these out and rebuild them with modern design and without some of the truly ridiculous pilot abilities that keep a handful of pilots relevant and stifle upgrades out of fear of making them too good. (Biggs, Soontir, etc)

I don't think Soontir stifles the design space at all as PTL is stapled to him and he wouldn't even be OP if there was a 0 point mod that let him ignore bombs.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

ConfusedUs posted:

Every T65. Every a wing. Every b wing. The TIE advanced. Interceptors. Y wings that aren't ps2 generics. The HWK 290.

Rotate these out and rebuild them with modern design and without some of the truly ridiculous pilot abilities that keep a handful of pilots relevant and stifle upgrades out of fear of making them too good. (Biggs, Soontir, etc)

Nah, gently caress buying new minis for ships I already have

Chemmy
Feb 4, 2001

It wouldn't even be that hard for FFG to pack new cards for old ships in new expansions. "Oh cool the TIE Avenger has new Interceptor pilots too!"

Gumdrop Larry
Jul 30, 2006

The problem with this game and doing a full blown tabletop wargame-esque new edition is that they've tied more physical components than you usually see to the models in conjunction with monetizing it. Certain pilot cards they stuck in epic ships, upgrades across all expansions, dials, and the cardboard base plates. They can't do an unfettered revamp because they've sort of made a big part of the business model not giving the players this stuff too readily and spreading it all around very widely. I'd love to see a 2.0 but it seems like they may never actually take that approach, and instead just stick with stuff like titles and ship-specific mods to try and retrofit stuff. I don't think the business model is egregious just because outside of epic ships you do get good quality stuff for your buck, but I really do hate how it seems to make significant changes to older ships so difficult for everyone involved.

Cobaltshift
Jul 15, 2013

ConfusedUs posted:

Every T65. Every a wing. Every b wing. The TIE advanced. Interceptors. Y wings that aren't ps2 generics. The HWK 290.

Rotate these out and rebuild them with modern design and without some of the truly ridiculous pilot abilities that keep a handful of pilots relevant and stifle upgrades out of fear of making them too good. (Biggs, Soontir, etc)

Reduced point cost for most E-wing pilots too! Also, Dutch is a great Y-wing pilot :)

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
I like the HWK 290 with the title and Recon Specialist. Turns it into a humongous battery for focus tokens.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Anyone have any good ideas for a 35 point small ship build for a furball tourney?


I'm running the tourney at the local flgs with one of the kits and I haven't had any time to try anything out. No regen or lone wolf

hoiyes
May 17, 2007

Raged posted:

Anyone have any good ideas for a 35 point small ship build for a furball tourney?


I'm running the tourney at the local flgs with one of the kits and I haven't had any time to try anything out. No regen or lone wolf

Just run ps10 ten numb with manger and rek the fenns

alg
Mar 14, 2007

A wolf was no less a wolf because a whim of chance caused him to run with the watch-dogs.

Raged posted:

Anyone have any good ideas for a 35 point small ship build for a furball tourney?


I'm running the tourney at the local flgs with one of the kits and I haven't had any time to try anything out. No regen or lone wolf

Soontir Fel

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/8/15/vaksai/


Jesus that Harpooned condition is totally to gently caress with Biggs. Also that new ps4 pilot is a bombers best friend.

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