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Snowman_McK posted:I think prequel hate is like that guy in high school who you loving hated over some stupid thing. Neither of you can remember what started it, maybe one of you pushed in line, maybe you're too similar, who knows? But you're at each other's throats all the time. Now, in you late 20s or so, you run into the guy. You chat for a few minutes, you have a beer, and you wonder what all the fuss was about. You wonder how you got so invested in hating something. That's pretty much prequel hate. It was some dude you hated, and you didn't know why, and now you can't remember. It's because the films were terrible, made the original films worse, and after fighting through contemporary delusion and denial it eventually became accepted that this was the case, until recently when a small percentage of the less intelligent four year olds who watched them
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it should have been predicted how easily capitalism has wholly absorbed fanboys. they are, after all, people with severe partisan loyalty towards brands and intellectual property they do not own, whose identity derives from consumption and purchase of mass-produced products. couple that with marketing's embrace of "positivity" as an abstract and you've got a base of consumers who not only feel obligated to buy your product, but more, to like it, and more than that, to denounce criticism of it. and not just in star wars; console warriors, DC fanboys, people who really care what kind of phone you have, and Gamerz all fit this mold. it's really unbelievably sad and it would be sadder if they weren't so generally unpleasant.
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May 12, 2017 14:18
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But what about the Star Wars films?
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May 12, 2017 14:25
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Are these greatest hits reposts or new posts?
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sassassin posted:But what about the Star Wars films? it depends if you include the clone wars film. if so then on average they are Bad
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euphronius posted:Are these greatest hits reposts or new posts? Begun, the cloneposts have
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John Cena says he likes all Star Wars films.
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May 12, 2017 14:57
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The MSJ posted:John Cena says he likes all Star Wars films. If The Rock said that, maybe you'd have something. Let me know when The Rock weighs on Star Wars.
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May 12, 2017 14:59
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I've seen the force awakens about 10 times this week since I've been home with my sick son. The only question I have is how Rey knew darth vaders name. Also the movie is very well made.
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euphronius posted:The only question I have is how Rey knew darth vaders name. Kinda in that vein, I'd really like to have some idea of what the average person thinks happened to the Emperor and why the second Death Star exploded. Is it common knowledge what happened there? Does the general public think it was just a stroke of luck that the station had a catastrophic accident while the Emperor was on board? Was the Rebellion open about its role in all that and was Luke's role widely known? We know people like Luke, Leia and Han are legends but that's about it, their reputation could have been built up more from events that happened after the death of the Emperor.
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"There was a second death star? Pull the other one."
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We're actually only seeing the made-for-Hollywood version of what really happened in Republic space a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away. Prime Minster Palpatine died of injuries sustained when his staff speeder was strafed by X-Wing fire. Luke Skywalker was in officer training with a Rebel Alliance unit on Dantooine at the time.
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May 12, 2017 16:21
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Do you think there is a bustling market for Clone Wars Holocron sets using real archival footage for dads across the galaxy? I bet there were tons of complaints of human-washing when filming these movies.
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Tezzora posted:it depends if you include the clone wars film. if so then on average they are Bad You don't like star wars? Why not, they are tons of fun
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Basebf555 posted:Kinda in that vein, I'd really like to have some idea of what the average person thinks happened to the Emperor and why the second Death Star exploded. Is it common knowledge what happened there? Does the general public think it was just a stroke of luck that the station had a catastrophic accident while the Emperor was on board? Was the Rebellion open about its role in all that and was Luke's role widely known? We know people like Luke, Leia and Han are legends but that's about it, their reputation could have been built up more from events that happened after the death of the Emperor. I'd think Darth Vader would be legendarily infamous in the galaxy. I got the impression in Rogue One that he's reclusive but by the time the OT starts happening, but from Rogue One on you sure as hell know who Darth Vader is because he's just steamrolling through everything and everyone looking for Luke and seems like an actually on the front lines guy. That gap between him being really active starting with Rogue One also creates a big enough gap so that not everyone in the galaxy is like "Oh poo poo Anakin's back in some black armor."
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Neo Rasa posted:I'd think Darth Vader would be legendarily infamous in the galaxy. I got the impression in Rogue One that he's reclusive but by the time the OT starts happening, but from Rogue One on you sure as hell know who Darth Vader is because he's just steamrolling through everything and everyone looking for Luke and seems like an actually on the front lines guy. That gap between him being really active starting with Rogue One also creates a big enough gap so that not everyone in the galaxy is like "Oh poo poo Anakin's back in some black armor." That's not really what I'm asking though. Sure, Vader is famous by the time of the OT, but how many people know what actually went down in that throne room? Do people know he killed the Emperor? Do they even know that Luke Skywalker was there?
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It's just conveyed to the audience that Darth Vader enjoys a special relationship with the Emperor and is his personal hatchetman. Tarkin outranks him, but the Joint Chiefs are afraid of him.
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Oh yeah just going by the movies I got the impression that people know that Luke is one of the rebellion's greatest heroes and could use the force but not much else. There's news in the setting and so on so I'm sure anyone interested knows the general swath of where everyone was whenever the major battles went down i.e., Han Solo+Leia+Luke+Chewie lead a brave small vanguard before the final assault on the Death Star but not much beyond that other than that it obviously succeeded.
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Neo Rasa posted:Oh yeah just going by the movies I got the impression that people know that Luke is one of the rebellion's greatest heroes and could use the force but not much else. There's news in the setting and so on so I'm sure anyone interested knows the general swath of where everyone was whenever the major battles went down i.e., Han Solo+Leia+Luke+Chewie lead a brave small vanguard before the final assault on the Death Star but not much beyond that other than that it obviously succeeded. That's kinda what I was thinking, there's no reason to believe from what we see in TFA that anyone knows the specifics of what happened. It's just so easy to fall back on assumptions that are based on the old EU stuff, which I grew up with and kinda became ingrained in my head as the way things went(I had no idea what "canon" meant back then). In the EU Han ended up joining the military officially as a general for instance, so when I watch TFA I have to remind myself that this version of the character basically did the direct opposite of that. Same goes for Leia, in the EU she was the New Republic's most important figurehead and diplomat, she wasn't spending time in dingy rebel bases organizing suicide missions anymore.
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Neo Rasa posted:Han Solo+Leia+Luke+Chewie lead a brave small vanguard before the final assault on the Death Star but not much beyond that other than that it obviously succeeded. mmmm LANDO???? You remembered the wookie but not Lando?
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euphronius posted:mmmm LANDO???? You remembered the wookie but not Lando? Force Awakens forgot Lando but remembered Chewie.
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11th time watching TFA this week, brain melting . Blue good , red bad. Diagonal light and objects against the sky
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May 12, 2017 21:20
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Are you sure your sick son didn't put on The Neon Demon?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSf2GYzB7-g Oh poo poo, guys! Star Wars Explained put out a Canon-only version of All AT Walker Types & Variants! Updated with new "Canon" walkers from the mobile game, Star Wars Commander! I loving love canon! Taintrunner fucked around with this message at 21:52 on May 12, 2017 |
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I have finally accepted that the star killer bases laser would be visible across the galaxy and travel at super luminal speeds while still being visible . I get it .
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There's seven other movies ya'll could watch.
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euphronius posted:I have finally accepted that the star killer bases laser would be visible across the galaxy and travel at super luminal speeds while still being visible . It's a weird one, to be honest, because the audience perspective shots make sense - sure, it doesn't work like that, but it's communicating an idea, so you can let it slide. Why do the shots from Takodana have the lasers? Doesn't that kinda muddy the impact of Finn and Leia being able to feel '
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Supposedly, in the EU, Leia's career in the Senate is damaged when opponents reveal that Darth Vader was her father. And no one thinks to point out that Luke Skywalker is her brother, I guess?
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Hodgepodge posted:Supposedly, in the EU, Leia's career in the Senate is damaged when opponents reveal that Darth Vader was her father. No actually in that stupid book everyone knows that Luke is Leia's brother, so when the truth comes out about Leia, everyone else becomes instantly suspicious of Luke and his disappearance. It's dumb and stupid. edit: Also it doesn't really damage her career so much as force her out of the senate entirely which provides the push she needs to keep investigating the First Order with her band of resistance fighters.
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euphronius posted:11th time watching TFA this week, brain melting . 11 times, drat  I legit can't stand watching the Phantom Menace anymore is because I watched that movie 8 times as a kid. That drat movie is burned into my brain
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May 12, 2017 23:44
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Black Bones posted:You don't like star wars? Why not, they are tons of fun They're generally bad. Most fandoms don't feel obligated to affirm the crap.
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Movies about spaceships going woosh and people with laser swords fighting are generally cool. It's possible to screw this thing up to the point where not even those pleasures come across (Wing Commander, lookin' at you), but the Star Wars movies are all pretty good at it.
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PenguinKnight posted:11 times, drat Also she loved TPM, ranks it second behind R1, and loved Jar Jar and Anakin in particular. You know, if we want more data points on whether anyone likes the prequels. 
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PenguinKnight posted:11 times, drat 12 now. Harrison ford has amazing delivery of lines.
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Tezzora posted:They're generally bad. Most fandoms don't feel obligated to affirm the crap. Most people don't go in to threads for movies they don't like.
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I read a rumour that e9 will mention Earth as a place to hide the Jedi. God ugh no.
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euphronius posted:12 now. Harrison ford has amazing delivery of lines. Once our society breaks inevitably down within the next few years, we will go to you for renditions of The Force Awakens, like how we would go to the village elders for tales of our forefathers.
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UmOk posted:Most people don't go in to threads for movies they don't like. It will be like Battlestar Galactica '80 like everything we've seen and know so far is from the first ten minutes and the entire rest of the movie is them bumbling around earth.
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Here's a really good video that goes into the various ways George Lucas truly does know his stuff, in many ways far better than many of the most successful blockbuster filmmakers working today, using the podrace as a study: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz7xgfawz44 I think I've mentioned a few things along these lines before as reasons why pretty much all the action sequences in the new Star Wars films tend to leave me feeling bored and checking my watch. They all tend to lack the sense of clear, overriding purpose and carefully modulated escalation that Lucas's (and Spielberg's, and Cameron's) action sequences always exhibit. Rogue One's action sequences in particular suffer from being too samey all throughout, there being a clear lack of emotional calculation involved in the sequences' construction and progression--at least in comparison to the older films. The newer films really do seem to not even think about this sort of thing, and just assume that it's as simple as just animating a bunch of X-wings and TIE fighters whirling through the air shooting lasers and doing cool maneuvers. They really are like Marvel films in that regard. ILM does all the heavy lifting while the directors rest on their laurels, and the result is just a bunch of pretty CGI debris flying haphazardly across the screen. Cnut the Great fucked around with this message at 00:24 on May 13, 2017 |
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