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lotus circle posted:I went to a convention in the DC area recently and recall walking through a very crowded area of the center. One girl who was cosplaying Homestuck just stopped in the middle of the walkway and sat down, leaving dozens of people behind her having to walk around. This area was crowded but there were some benches around it that she could have sat on that were free. But nope, she just had to stop where she was and sit down. The reason? I heard her muttering about a Condesce cosplayer that was nearby and just felt the need to sit down in the middle of the crowded area to awe at them. No joke. I've only been to one or two, but this exact sort of thing happened plenty at anime cons, well before Homestuck. People at
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 01:08 |
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lotus circle posted:Most people don't like Homestuck at cons because of the gray paint and a number of obnoxious fans. Said obnoxious fans tend to be very obnoxious teenagers, who can't seem to realize that they are not the only ones who matter in a convention with thousands of people attending. You probably look at homestuck con horror stories and think "no way that happened!" but it does. So...business as usual then? It's not like before homestuck, conventions were these great places where everything was wonderful and no one was rude or sexist or hostile towards other people. The only reason this is happening is because there's a considerably decent number of the obnoxious people who like the same thing so the other people can group them together and act like they're ruining the sanctity of their convention where they go to watch animes or listen to people talk about comics or whatever. You can switch out Homestuck with anything else and if the group that liked it was big enough the exact same thing would happen. Stereotypes and horror stories from conventions have been around probably since whenever the first convention was, it's just people are paying attention to homestuck now so suddenly all these homestuck horror stories are coming up.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 01:23 |
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Prison Warden posted:I'm in the UK and there were a few things I just didn't recognise. Like fruit gushers, or Betty Crocker as a company in general, though I did notice that apparently they sell pancake mix over here now but only around Pancake Day. I had no clue what juggalos were, or ICP in general pre-Homestuck. And I didn't know who Guy Fieri was, though his shows are on TV over here, just only on specialist digital stations so that's more of a gap in my own pop-cultural knowledge than anything else. I made a Devil's Mix chocolate cake with university friends before Christmas. Betty Crocker has been a thing here for some time, it's just seldom advertised.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 02:21 |
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IUG posted:Live in CT where our best locally hosted Cons are basically that. ConnectiCon! With all of your favorite webcomic book artists! Featuring special guest: Tim Buckley!
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 02:43 |
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The paint thing is weird. Setting greasepaint so it doesn't smear is not that hard. On your hands it can be more obnoxious and it'll tend to wear off regardless because of how much you use your hands, but there are solutions for that too. I guess that's though.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 02:57 |
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every homestuck person i've ever met has been really nice and every convention i've went to has been filled with very friendly and accepting people of various cultural backgrounds so like in all honesty i can say with almost 100% confidence that these nerds everyone hates are probably better people than whoever hates them for being nerds or whatever. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 04:30 |
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Nerd infighting is literally the dumbest thing. #JediMindMeld
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 05:13 |
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A Bloody Crowbar posted:every homestuck person i've ever met has been really nice and every convention i've went to has been filled with very friendly and accepting people of various cultural backgrounds so like in all honesty i can say with almost 100% confidence that these nerds everyone hates are probably better people than whoever hates them for being nerds or whatever. I will back this up, thus proving this scientifically through the process of peer review.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 06:00 |
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i reviewed my peers like i said they were pretty alright
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 06:29 |
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I hate my peers AND myself, so THERE How dare people enjoy themselves at all, they should be thinking about their own inevitable deaths, like Dave Strider which I can relate with and is why I read homestuck. And like Karkat Vantas I would probably gently caress the frog too
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 06:43 |
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bigmcgaffney posted:I hate my peers AND myself, so THERE I think you mean "gently caress up the frog". God, I hope you mean "gently caress up the frog".
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 07:00 |
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Batman's Shameful Secret > MSPaint Adventures - And like Karkat Vantas I would probably gently caress the frog too
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Megaspel posted:If only there were some sort of con for all comics. A "Con Comic" if you will...
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 08:38 |
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JT Jag posted:I try to avoid sounding like a hipster whenever possible, but Comic-Con has gotten way too ~mainstream~ to cater to the interests of the Homestucks of the world. I mean, they debut video games and movies there now. Fantastic general nerd convention, but you you'll have to figure out some other arrangement if you want webcomic-type stuff to get any sort of attention. I don't understand this. How are the cons supposed to cater for Homestucks? Hussie went to a big con this weekend, presumably a lot of people went to see him and went in cosplay - seems like a fairly decent set-up to me, and a good representation for the comic. I've also been to webcomics and small press comic cons in the UK - Much smaller scale, but a great way for artists to get out. Despite being mainly in a university dining hall in north London, Kate Beaton was there, and the guy from Diesel Sweeties, plus a whole bunch of other Webcomics you've probably heard of. Seems like Webcomics don;t do too badly out of the whole con thing. I think Homestucks are no better or worse than any other large group of people who all like to latch on to a specific fad or thing as part of their identity. There's always gonna be jerks and there's always gonna be not jerks. Honestly the entire concept of belonging to a 'Fandom' seems ridiculous to me, as does self identifying as a 'Nerd' or 'Geek'. I don't understand why people can't enjoy stuff without having to make it such a core part of their identity - That's where poo poo starts to get weird and you end up with a bunch of kids spitting in to a bucket.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 08:48 |
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I think it's a legitimate complaint from someone that specifically likes anime that for the last couple of years by far the most common thing to cosplay from at what are nominally Japanese pop-culture conventions is an American webcomic. There's a difference between there being a handful of stormtroopers or superheroes or Doctors Who and like one out of five attendees being trolls. The fact that the cosplayers are largely teenagers, who are by their nature pretty annoying to non-teenagers, makes it worse. And I say this as someone who has done Homestuck cosplay at a couple of anime cons.
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That makes sense, and I can certainly understand that frustration, though that's not I thought he was saying. I don't think that you can really say there isn't a place for Homestuck or other webcomics at cons, though. I guess I can't see an alternative either though. I'm suprised there haven't been any Homestuck cons organised though, considering the lengths some Bronies have gone to to organise their own things. I doubt that'd stop 'em turning up at the other cons too, though.
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"Organizing your own convention" actually IS a pretty big and difficult and particularly undertaking, especially if you want to do one at a scale large enough to accommodate the huge amount of fans you could potentially pull in. Anime conventions already have a pretty hefty existing framework and connections to go off of, when it comes to handling all the space, cash, shops, personnel, and personalities, even celebrities involved in making those things work. Ditto for other similar nerd venues. I don't know how Pony get-togethers work, but from what I heard in the usual Brony Horror Stories they're not much more than smaller-scale get-togethers at rented small venues, and that wouldn't really be all that much like an anime convention other than involving costumes and possibly sale of merchandise(possibly of dubious legality home-made stuff), and more of a glorified meet-up. An actual convention would have a hell of a lot more to it, with all the events and celebrities and activities and shops, thus a lot more fun, and also a larger, more public framework which makes it much more appealing and full of fun to warrant actually drive/fly long distances to, rather than doing the same just to hang out with a few costumed nerds who may not have anything to say in an empty rental hall/garage/whatever. But as said, it'd be very difficult to get off the ground, and Homestuck might be over before someone managed to actually put something meaningful together. Edit: And thus spoke the poster who's avatar looks like a Homestuck convention.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 09:53 |
I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention.
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Dorroile posted:I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention. Is he still broke? There was a time there a few years back he was absolutely wiped out and had to take any movie going.
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Dorroile posted:I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention. It'd be kind of like Tim Curry going to a Rocky Horror con, except unlike Nic, you'd expect Tim to actually know what it was about.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 15:15 |
Well it wouldn't be fun if he knew what was happening. I just want to see Nic Cage, alone and scared, surrounded by weird teenagers in body paint, begging him to say that thing about the bunny and the box again and sign their copy of Con Air. I'm a bad person.
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Midnight Raider posted:"Organizing your own convention" actually IS a pretty big and difficult and particularly undertaking, especially if you want to do one at a scale large enough to accommodate the huge amount of fans you could potentially pull in. Anime conventions already have a pretty hefty existing framework and connections to go off of, when it comes to handling all the space, cash, shops, personnel, and personalities, even celebrities involved in making those things work. Ditto for other similar nerd venues. On top of that, this is a fandom in which the creator has explicitly stated that they do not want to see fan-merchandise being sold. I guess I could kind of see a deal being struck with What Pumpkin to get some official stuff there, but fanart, commissions, and the like are usually a large draw to conventions.
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Dorroile posted:I just want to see Nic Cage, alone and scared, surrounded by weird teenagers in body paint, begging him to say that thing about the bunny and the box again and sign their copy of Con Air. He certainly has experience with that. He just had to make pachinko commercials for Japan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I think it's a legitimate complaint There's no such thing as a legitimate complaint when it involves people not being the right kind of cosplay for your ~anime purity~.
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Yeah it's just the same kind of idiotic nerd elitism stuff that has a bunch of geeks think that all anime is awful and that all anime fans are literally hitler while they spend thousands transforming their house into the bridge of the USS Voyager.
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I think part of the large amount of homestuck cosplayers is due to the fact that, relatively speaking, the costumes are generally quite easy to make. Most of the characters have normal clothes which are easy to assemble and bam, there's your costume. Add grey body paint and paper mâché horns if you're a troll. Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining.
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Lord of Laughton posted:Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining. I've seen a few decent ones, but none with the inner lining. I suppose you typically don't see much of that.
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Prison Warden posted:Yeah it's just the same kind of idiotic nerd elitism stuff that has a bunch of geeks think that all anime is awful and that all anime fans are literally hitler while they spend thousands transforming their house into the bridge of the USS Voyager. Hitler wasn't an anime fan, that was the Admiral that pulled off Pearl Harbor. Once I got mad because I happened to be downtown while the local Japanese cultural festival was going on, and amidst the traditional dances and singing and whatnot were tons of skinny white teenagers cosplaying Kingdom Hearts (they were so many Axels) and various anime maid outfits. They heard "Japanese culture" and thought "Anime and video games". I wasn't mad because I don't like those things, I do. I just thought they were missing the point completely. Then I went to body worlds and saw some dead bodies.
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bigmcgaffney posted:Then I went to body worlds and saw some dead bodies. That sounds like a good day
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 19:51 |
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Yo aside from dead bodies (which are awesome) and nerd-infighting (which is retarded) we have confirmation that a new album is on the way from Malcolm Brown.
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Dogbutt posted:That sounds like a good day Ever since word circulated that Body Worlds doesn't have a good paperwork trail backing up where they get their bodies and the rumours of various unsavoury sources (Chinese political prisoners, unscrupulous Russian doctors selling the bodies of the homeless), well, it's made the whole exhibit sort of creepy.
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Lord of Laughton posted:Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining. At least one, yeah. Here's a Caliborn to grow on:
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Dolash posted:Ever since word circulated that Body Worlds doesn't have a good paperwork trail backing up where they get their bodies and the rumours of various unsavoury sources (Chinese political prisoners, unscrupulous Russian doctors selling the bodies of the homeless), well, it's made the whole exhibit sort of creepy. Oh god I was not aware of this Edit: Speaking of Caliborn cosplay, I saw a good one at AX this year. Homestuck fans must be really fast... Dogbutt fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 6, 2013 |
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While we are waiting for an update, I want to run a theory about how Homestuck will end. Much of the theory is based on how two works that are important to Homestuck end: EarthBound and The Never Ending Story. Earthbound ends with a battle against an unbeatable boss. The player's only way to win is to select the "Pray" command, where the PCs send out a plea to the people that they have met in their journey so far. Finally, the prayer reaches out to the player, in a way moving the game beyond fiction. The human controller of the game enters the game and changes the outcome. (only can be beaten through glitches and exploits) the Never Ending Story, at least the first part of the book (from whence the movie comes), ends with the revelation that Atreyu's journey was meant to draw the reader (Bastian Bax, and also the actual reader) into the story, until they are able to call the name of the Childlike Empress. So maybe Homestuck ends with the characters admitting that their is nothing they can do, but calling out for someone else to help them...that "someone else" being the audience, and then we have an interactive session where we see what the fans have made of Homestuck and that defeats Lord English. What do you think?
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 21:35 |
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A Black security guy will pass by and scorn Caliborn into surrendering.
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# ? Mar 6, 2013 21:43 |
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Yo aside from dead bodies (which are awesome) and nerd-infighting (which is retarded) we have confirmation that a new album is on the way from Malcolm Brown. Softowl has said that volume 10 will be the last numbered volume of homestuck music and that they are planning to release it as late as they can. That doesn't mean that they won't release others, however.
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tinaun posted:Softowl has said that volume 10 will be the last numbered volume of homestuck music and that they are planning to release it as late as they can. That doesn't mean that they won't release others, however. Is the upcoming album Volume 10, though? I heard it was a cherub-centric album, so it might not be Volume 10 (though it could).
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Color Printer posted:Is the upcoming album Volume 10, though? I heard it was a cherub-centric album, so it might not be Volume 10 (though it could).
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glowing-fish posted:What do you think? I think that would be really anticlimatic and lame. I hope Hussie doesn't rip off an ending from something else!
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Dorroile posted:I think that would be really anticlimatic and lame. I hope Hussie doesn't rip off an ending from something else! Homestuck has always been a love letter to Earthbound in its own way.
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