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KoB
May 1, 2009

lotus circle posted:

I went to a convention in the DC area recently and recall walking through a very crowded area of the center. One girl who was cosplaying Homestuck just stopped in the middle of the walkway and sat down, leaving dozens of people behind her having to walk around. This area was crowded but there were some benches around it that she could have sat on that were free. But nope, she just had to stop where she was and sit down. The reason? I heard her muttering about a Condesce cosplayer that was nearby and just felt the need to sit down in the middle of the crowded area to awe at them. No joke.

I've only been to one or two, but this exact sort of thing happened plenty at anime cons, well before Homestuck.

People at anime cons are weird, homestucks or not.

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Wrist Watch
Apr 19, 2011

What?

lotus circle posted:

Most people don't like Homestuck at cons because of the gray paint and a number of obnoxious fans. Said obnoxious fans tend to be very obnoxious teenagers, who can't seem to realize that they are not the only ones who matter in a convention with thousands of people attending. You probably look at homestuck con horror stories and think "no way that happened!" but it does.

So...business as usual then?

It's not like before homestuck, conventions were these great places where everything was wonderful and no one was rude or sexist or hostile towards other people. The only reason this is happening is because there's a considerably decent number of the obnoxious people who like the same thing so the other people can group them together and act like they're ruining the sanctity of their convention where they go to watch animes or listen to people talk about comics or whatever. You can switch out Homestuck with anything else and if the group that liked it was big enough the exact same thing would happen.

Stereotypes and horror stories from conventions have been around probably since whenever the first convention was, it's just people are paying attention to homestuck now so suddenly all these homestuck horror stories are coming up.

Pentachronic Snail
Nov 2, 2011

Prison Warden posted:

I'm in the UK and there were a few things I just didn't recognise. Like fruit gushers, or Betty Crocker as a company in general, though I did notice that apparently they sell pancake mix over here now but only around Pancake Day. I had no clue what juggalos were, or ICP in general pre-Homestuck. And I didn't know who Guy Fieri was, though his shows are on TV over here, just only on specialist digital stations so that's more of a gap in my own pop-cultural knowledge than anything else.

I wouldn't be surprised about any real mainstream holywood stuff, american movies are shown all over the globe.



I made a Devil's Mix chocolate cake with university friends before Christmas. Betty Crocker has been a thing here for some time, it's just seldom advertised.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

IUG posted:

Live in CT where our best locally hosted Cons are basically that. ConnectiCon! With all of your favorite webcomic book artists!

Featuring special guest: Tim Buckley!

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

The paint thing is weird. Setting greasepaint so it doesn't smear is not that hard. On your hands it can be more obnoxious and it'll tend to wear off regardless because of how much you use your hands, but there are solutions for that too. I guess that's :effort: though.

A Bloody Crowbar
May 9, 2009

every homestuck person i've ever met has been really nice and every convention i've went to has been filled with very friendly and accepting people of various cultural backgrounds so like in all honesty i can say with almost 100% confidence that these nerds everyone hates are probably better people than whoever hates them for being nerds or whatever.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Plom Bar
Jun 5, 2004

hardest time i ever done :(
Nerd infighting is literally the dumbest thing. #JediMindMeld

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

A Bloody Crowbar posted:

every homestuck person i've ever met has been really nice and every convention i've went to has been filled with very friendly and accepting people of various cultural backgrounds so like in all honesty i can say with almost 100% confidence that these nerds everyone hates are probably better people than whoever hates them for being nerds or whatever.

I will back this up, thus proving this scientifically through the process of peer review.

A Bloody Crowbar
May 9, 2009

i reviewed my peers like i said they were pretty alright

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009
I hate my peers AND myself, so THERE

How dare people enjoy themselves at all, they should be thinking about their own inevitable deaths, like Dave Strider which I can relate with and is why I read homestuck. And like Karkat Vantas I would probably gently caress the frog too

Cabbit
Jul 19, 2001

Is that everything you have?

bigmcgaffney posted:

I hate my peers AND myself, so THERE

How dare people enjoy themselves at all, they should be thinking about their own inevitable deaths, like Dave Strider which I can relate with and is why I read homestuck. And like Karkat Vantas I would probably gently caress the frog too

I think you mean "gently caress up the frog".

God, I hope you mean "gently caress up the frog".

A Bloody Crowbar
May 9, 2009

Batman's Shameful Secret > MSPaint Adventures - And like Karkat Vantas I would probably gently caress the frog too

JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Megaspel posted:

If only there were some sort of con for all comics. A "Con Comic" if you will...
I try to avoid sounding like a hipster whenever possible, but Comic-Con has gotten way too ~mainstream~ to cater to the interests of the Homestucks of the world. I mean, they debut video games and movies there now. Fantastic general nerd convention, but you you'll have to figure out some other arrangement if you want webcomic-type stuff to get any sort of attention.

krakagar
Sep 26, 2010

JT Jag posted:

I try to avoid sounding like a hipster whenever possible, but Comic-Con has gotten way too ~mainstream~ to cater to the interests of the Homestucks of the world. I mean, they debut video games and movies there now. Fantastic general nerd convention, but you you'll have to figure out some other arrangement if you want webcomic-type stuff to get any sort of attention.

I don't understand this. How are the cons supposed to cater for Homestucks? Hussie went to a big con this weekend, presumably a lot of people went to see him and went in cosplay - seems like a fairly decent set-up to me, and a good representation for the comic. I've also been to webcomics and small press comic cons in the UK - Much smaller scale, but a great way for artists to get out. Despite being mainly in a university dining hall in north London, Kate Beaton was there, and the guy from Diesel Sweeties, plus a whole bunch of other Webcomics you've probably heard of. Seems like Webcomics don;t do too badly out of the whole con thing.

I think Homestucks are no better or worse than any other large group of people who all like to latch on to a specific fad or thing as part of their identity. There's always gonna be jerks and there's always gonna be not jerks. Honestly the entire concept of belonging to a 'Fandom' seems ridiculous to me, as does self identifying as a 'Nerd' or 'Geek'. I don't understand why people can't enjoy stuff without having to make it such a core part of their identity - That's where poo poo starts to get weird and you end up with a bunch of kids spitting in to a bucket.

Omnomnomnivore
Nov 14, 2010

I'm swiftly moving toward a solution which pleases nobody! YEAGGH!
I think it's a legitimate complaint from someone that specifically likes anime that for the last couple of years by far the most common thing to cosplay from at what are nominally Japanese pop-culture conventions is an American webcomic. There's a difference between there being a handful of stormtroopers or superheroes or Doctors Who and like one out of five attendees being trolls. The fact that the cosplayers are largely teenagers, who are by their nature pretty annoying to non-teenagers, makes it worse. And I say this as someone who has done Homestuck cosplay at a couple of anime cons.

krakagar
Sep 26, 2010
That makes sense, and I can certainly understand that frustration, though that's not I thought he was saying. I don't think that you can really say there isn't a place for Homestuck or other webcomics at cons, though. I guess I can't see an alternative either though. I'm suprised there haven't been any Homestuck cons organised though, considering the lengths some Bronies have gone to to organise their own things. I doubt that'd stop 'em turning up at the other cons too, though.

Midnight Raider
Apr 26, 2010

"Organizing your own convention" actually IS a pretty big and difficult and particularly :retrogames: :retrogames: :retrogames: undertaking, especially if you want to do one at a scale large enough to accommodate the huge amount of fans you could potentially pull in. Anime conventions already have a pretty hefty existing framework and connections to go off of, when it comes to handling all the space, cash, shops, personnel, and personalities, even celebrities involved in making those things work. Ditto for other similar nerd venues.

I don't know how Pony get-togethers work, but from what I heard in the usual Brony Horror Stories they're not much more than smaller-scale get-togethers at rented small venues, and that wouldn't really be all that much like an anime convention other than involving costumes and possibly sale of merchandise(possibly of dubious legality home-made stuff), and more of a glorified meet-up.

An actual convention would have a hell of a lot more to it, with all the events and celebrities and activities and shops, thus a lot more fun, and also a larger, more public framework which makes it much more appealing and full of fun to warrant actually drive/fly long distances to, rather than doing the same just to hang out with a few costumed nerds who may not have anything to say in an empty rental hall/garage/whatever. But as said, it'd be very difficult to get off the ground, and Homestuck might be over before someone managed to actually put something meaningful together.

Edit: And thus spoke the poster who's avatar looks like a Homestuck convention.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Dorroile posted:

I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention.

Is he still broke? There was a time there a few years back he was absolutely wiped out and had to take any movie going.

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde

Dorroile posted:

I wonder if it would be possible to bring in Nic Cage to a Homestuck convention.

It'd be kind of like Tim Curry going to a Rocky Horror con, except unlike Nic, you'd expect Tim to actually know what it was about.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008
Well it wouldn't be fun if he knew what was happening.

I just want to see Nic Cage, alone and scared, surrounded by weird teenagers in body paint, begging him to say that thing about the bunny and the box again and sign their copy of Con Air.

I'm a bad person.

PurpleLizardWizard
Jun 11, 2012

Midnight Raider posted:

"Organizing your own convention" actually IS a pretty big and difficult and particularly :retrogames: :retrogames: :retrogames: undertaking, especially if you want to do one at a scale large enough to accommodate the huge amount of fans you could potentially pull in. Anime conventions already have a pretty hefty existing framework and connections to go off of, when it comes to handling all the space, cash, shops, personnel, and personalities, even celebrities involved in making those things work. Ditto for other similar nerd venues.

I don't know how Pony get-togethers work, but from what I heard in the usual Brony Horror Stories they're not much more than smaller-scale get-togethers at rented small venues, and that wouldn't really be all that much like an anime convention other than involving costumes and possibly sale of merchandise(possibly of dubious legality home-made stuff), and more of a glorified meet-up.

On top of that, this is a fandom in which the creator has explicitly stated that they do not want to see fan-merchandise being sold. I guess I could kind of see a deal being struck with What Pumpkin to get some official stuff there, but fanart, commissions, and the like are usually a large draw to conventions.

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde

Dorroile posted:

I just want to see Nic Cage, alone and scared, surrounded by weird teenagers in body paint, begging him to say that thing about the bunny and the box again and sign their copy of Con Air.

He certainly has experience with that. He just had to make pachinko commercials for Japan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYkw-5htPw0

Who What Now
Sep 10, 2006

by Azathoth

Omnomnomnivore posted:

I think it's a legitimate complaint

There's no such thing as a legitimate complaint when it involves people not being the right kind of cosplay for your ~anime purity~.

Rohan Kishibe
Oct 29, 2011

Frankly, I don't like you
and I never have.
Yeah it's just the same kind of idiotic nerd elitism stuff that has a bunch of geeks think that all anime is awful and that all anime fans are literally hitler while they spend thousands transforming their house into the bridge of the USS Voyager.

Lord of Laughton
Nov 11, 2008

It's hard to say for certain
But I think I like it here.
I think part of the large amount of homestuck cosplayers is due to the fact that, relatively speaking, the costumes are generally quite easy to make. Most of the characters have normal clothes which are easy to assemble and bam, there's your costume. Add grey body paint and paper mâché horns if you're a troll.

Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Lord of Laughton posted:

Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining.

I've seen a few decent ones, but none with the inner lining. I suppose you typically don't see much of that.

bigmcgaffney
Apr 19, 2009

Prison Warden posted:

Yeah it's just the same kind of idiotic nerd elitism stuff that has a bunch of geeks think that all anime is awful and that all anime fans are literally hitler while they spend thousands transforming their house into the bridge of the USS Voyager.

Hitler wasn't an anime fan, that was the Admiral that pulled off Pearl Harbor.

Once I got mad because I happened to be downtown while the local Japanese cultural festival was going on, and amidst the traditional dances and singing and whatnot were tons of skinny white teenagers cosplaying Kingdom Hearts (they were so many Axels) and various anime maid outfits.

They heard "Japanese culture" and thought "Anime and video games". I wasn't mad because I don't like those things, I do. I just thought they were missing the point completely.

Then I went to body worlds and saw some dead bodies.

Dogbutt
Nov 26, 2011

Look at my face.

bigmcgaffney posted:

Then I went to body worlds and saw some dead bodies.

That sounds like a good day

Ammat The Ankh
Sep 7, 2010

Now, attempt to defeat me!
And I shall become a living legend!
Yo aside from dead bodies (which are awesome) and nerd-infighting (which is retarded) we have confirmation that a new album is on the way from Malcolm Brown.

Dolash
Oct 23, 2008

aNYWAY,
tHAT'S REALLY ALL THERE IS,
tO REPORT ON THE SUBJECT,
oF ME GETTING HURT,


Dogbutt posted:

That sounds like a good day

Ever since word circulated that Body Worlds doesn't have a good paperwork trail backing up where they get their bodies and the rumours of various unsavoury sources (Chinese political prisoners, unscrupulous Russian doctors selling the bodies of the homeless), well, it's made the whole exhibit sort of creepy.

J.theYellow
May 7, 2003
Slippery Tilde

Lord of Laughton posted:

Has there been any photos of people cosplaying as Lord English? I'd love to know if someone had made that cloak, complete with sky blue inner lining.

At least one, yeah. Here's a Caliborn to grow on:

Dogbutt
Nov 26, 2011

Look at my face.

Dolash posted:

Ever since word circulated that Body Worlds doesn't have a good paperwork trail backing up where they get their bodies and the rumours of various unsavoury sources (Chinese political prisoners, unscrupulous Russian doctors selling the bodies of the homeless), well, it's made the whole exhibit sort of creepy.

Oh god I was not aware of this :gonk:

Edit: Speaking of Caliborn cosplay, I saw a good one at AX this year. Homestuck fans must be really fast...

Dogbutt fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 6, 2013

glowing-fish
Feb 18, 2013

Keep grinding,
I hope you level up! :)
While we are waiting for an update, I want to run a theory about how Homestuck will end.

Much of the theory is based on how two works that are important to Homestuck end: EarthBound and The Never Ending Story.

Earthbound ends with a battle against an unbeatable boss. The player's only way to win is to select the "Pray" command, where the PCs send out a plea to the people that they have met in their journey so far. Finally, the prayer reaches out to the player, in a way moving the game beyond fiction. The human controller of the game enters the game and changes the outcome. (only can be beaten through glitches and exploits)

the Never Ending Story, at least the first part of the book (from whence the movie comes), ends with the revelation that Atreyu's journey was meant to draw the reader (Bastian Bax, and also the actual reader) into the story, until they are able to call the name of the Childlike Empress.

So maybe Homestuck ends with the characters admitting that their is nothing they can do, but calling out for someone else to help them...that "someone else" being the audience, and then we have an interactive session where we see what the fans have made of Homestuck and that defeats Lord English.

What do you think?

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
A Black security guy will pass by and scorn Caliborn into surrendering.

tinaun
Jun 9, 2011

                  tell me...

Ammat The Ankh posted:

Yo aside from dead bodies (which are awesome) and nerd-infighting (which is retarded) we have confirmation that a new album is on the way from Malcolm Brown.

Softowl has said that volume 10 will be the last numbered volume of homestuck music and that they are planning to release it as late as they can. That doesn't mean that they won't release others, however.

Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


tinaun posted:

Softowl has said that volume 10 will be the last numbered volume of homestuck music and that they are planning to release it as late as they can. That doesn't mean that they won't release others, however.

Is the upcoming album Volume 10, though? I heard it was a cherub-centric album, so it might not be Volume 10 (though it could).

lotus circle
Dec 25, 2012

Jushure Iburu
So don't worry

Color Printer posted:

Is the upcoming album Volume 10, though? I heard it was a cherub-centric album, so it might not be Volume 10 (though it could).
Fairly certain it's Volume 10. We haven't had a "Volume" album in a long time now, so it should be due to come out (Volume 9 released in June 2012, three months from a year now) and we know Eternity Shylock has been the center piece for it since Caliborn's Enter flash. I'm sure it will be fairly Cherub and even villain centric, like how Volume 9 was mainly Alpha kids/session centric.

Freak Futanari
Apr 11, 2008

glowing-fish posted:

What do you think?

I think that would be really anticlimatic and lame. I hope Hussie doesn't rip off an ending from something else!

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JT Jag
Aug 30, 2009

#1 Jaguars Sunk Cost Fallacy-Haver

Dorroile posted:

I think that would be really anticlimatic and lame. I hope Hussie doesn't rip off an ending from something else!
Done right it'd be less of a ripoff and more of a homage.

Homestuck has always been a love letter to Earthbound in its own way.

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