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Mao Zedong Thot: Oct 16, 2008

read taocp or buy some textbooks

school sucks gently caress school

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:07

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Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

gently caress university

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:11

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

university is a good place to make friends

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:20

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

Awia posted:

university is a good place to make friends

aye, good friends with Jim Beam and Captain Morgan

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:24

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

Valeyard posted:

aye, good friends with Jim Beam and Captain Morgan

the only 2 friends you'll ever need

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:25

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

Awia posted:

university is a good place to make friends

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:26

oh no blimp issue: Feb 23, 2011

university is just as much about networking as it is about learning
perhaps more so

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:28

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Awia posted:

university is just as much about networking as it is about learning
perhaps more so

oh, maybe that's why i failed out so many times

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:34

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Awia posted:

university is just as much about networking as it is about learning
perhaps more so

oh, maybe i should have bothered talking to anyone when i went then

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:34

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

programmers don't get invited to the cool parties :smith:

it doesn't excuse the outsize proportion of them that become bitter and hateful randroids but it does at least partly explain it

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:36

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

perhaps the profession that involves interacting solely with a machine you can make you your bidding with minimal interaction required with other humans and is historically for shut-ins attracts a disproportionate amount of people with major empathy problems?

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:43

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

i have exacgtly enough holiday dayhs left to take the entire month of december off

# ? Aug 5, 2016 18:55

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

stay in school, fool

unless you'd have to borrow a bunch of money to do it in which case eh maybe spread it out a bit

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:13

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

HoboMan posted:

perhaps the profession that involves interacting solely with a machine you can make you your bidding with minimal interaction required with other humans and is historically for shut-ins attracts a disproportionate amount of people with major empathy problems?

I would like to say that there are a lot of people who struggle with social situations and it's not just because they're bad people who lack empathy.

i am an okay person and I am good at socializing with friends, but short of some sort of pua esque period of self exploration, im never going to be able to network, and i will never be socially comfortable around people i don't know really well.

i know you're totally right in the general case, which is why it's important to point out that you can be a good person AND a shut in

DONT THREAD ON ME fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Aug 5, 2016

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:16

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

lol, looks like i am also posting via dragon dictate

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:22

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

also please make programming into a profession for uncool losers again tia

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:24

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

MALE SHOEGAZE posted:

can you get a masters without a bachelors? because I really want to go to grad school but I don't want to do an entire undergraduate degree

well, you can in france. i applied for masters 2, they did an interview and i wrote a letter of intent and gave them a letter of recommendation from a CS PhD i work with, and they said "ok you're in the 2nd year masters program, hope you can speak enough french to pass"

JewKiller 3000 posted:

i have never heard of this happening ever, at least in the united states. it doesn't really make much sense either, a master's degree is basically just more of what you did in undergrad but at a more advanced level. you're not necessarily doing research unless you're seeking a phd. so it would be like trying to take calc 3 without ever taking calc 1, you won't get much out of it

they decided i knew enough of the undergrad stuff (and 1st year masters stuff) to be able to handle the final year of the masters program. i'm not sure how that's ok, but universite paris-sud is pretty well known in france and they deal with the CNRS frequently so I can only assume it's all good.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:32

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

thats completely unheard of in the US, any questioning will be like
"your highest degree is... "
"masters in CS"
"from?"
"universite paris sud"
"huh?"
"university of paris-sud"
"like, france?"

# ? Aug 5, 2016 19:48

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

even the compiler knows its friday:

code:

C:\usr\Boost\include\boost-1_60\boost/type_traits/common_type.hpp(42) : fatal error C1001: An internal error has occurred in the compiler.
(compiler file 'msc1.cpp', line 1325)
 To work around this problem, try simplifying or changing the program near the locations listed above.
Please choose the Technical Support command on the Visual C++ 
 Help menu, or open the Technical Support help file for more information
Internal Compiler Error in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Visual Studio 12.0\VC\BIN\amd64\cl.exe.  You will be prompted to send an error report to Microsoft later.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:01

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

"i can't loving deal with this poo poo"

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:04

Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

boost wonders never cease!

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:06

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

hobbesmaster posted:

thats completely unheard of in the US, any questioning will be like
"your highest degree is... "
"masters in CS"
"from?"
"universite paris sud"
"huh?"
"university of paris-sud"
"like, france?"

well i mean that's gonna happen with my work history now too

"centre national de what?"

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:07

NihilCredo: Jun 6, 2011; iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Condiv posted:

they decided i knew enough of the undergrad stuff (and 1st year masters stuff) to be able to handle the final year of the masters program. i'm not sure how that's ok, but universite paris-sud is pretty well known in france and they deal with the CNRS frequently so I can only assume it's all good.

the smartest dude in my year at uni did his phd + postdoc in pure maths at orsay (paris-sud)

i checked up on him, he now works at a parisian startup with eight people that, quote from the founder, 'expects to reach profitability around 2018'

it was founded in 2011

european startups, ladies and gentlemen

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:24

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

does startup just mean "a small company", because i object to calling a 5-year-old company a startup

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:26

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

Wheany posted:

does startup just mean "a small company", because i object to calling a 5-year-old company a startup

in the computer world, yeah

you're a startup until you go public or get purchased
source: worked at a 10 year old startup

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:27

hobbesmaster: Jan 28, 2008

Wheany posted:

does startup just mean "a small company", because i object to calling a 5-year-old company a startup

you're a startup until you're net revenue positive

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:33

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

hobbesmaster posted:

you're a startup until you're net revenue positive

not even then

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:37

MrMoo: Sep 14, 2000

ErIog posted:

Your masters program didn't require a bachelors?

I have a four year masters with no bachelors, what's kind of odd is that if you fail the final year master work you don't get to walk away with a bachelors.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 20:40

Bloody: Mar 3, 2013

you're a startup when your business model is entirely dependent on an exit event

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:02

Mao Zedong Thot: Oct 16, 2008

Bloody posted:

you're a startup when your business model is entirely dependent on an exit event

OR:

*your company is primarily focused on revolutionizing the workplace through the real hot take of deconstructing and then perfectly reinventing completely ordinary organizational and management structures

*a coworker has a title like 'empathy engineer'

*company wide retreats

*earnest nodejs, mongodb use

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:21

Valeyard: Mar 30, 2012; Grimey Drawer

MrMoo posted:

I have a four year masters with no bachelors, what's kind of odd is that if you fail the final year master work you don't get to walk away with a bachelors.

you mean an MSci?

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:29

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod

NihilCredo posted:

the smartest dude in my year at uni did his phd + postdoc in pure maths at orsay (paris-sud)

i checked up on him, he now works at a parisian startup with eight people that, quote from the founder, 'expects to reach profitability around 2018'

it was founded in 2011

european startups, ladies and gentlemen

that's where i currently live. i also got some recruitment offers from parisian startups, but i'm happy working in research

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:35

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

so loving future posted:

*company wide retreats

*earnest nosql use

we got these, but i don't work at a software company and afaik we are profitable and actually do things

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:38

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

Compared to professions like ad designer, pharma lobbyist, weapons manufacturer, investment banker, I'd say programming is pretty far down the list of professions with a lot of lovely people in it.

There isn't even anything intrinsically societally harmful about touching computers, despite what the puddle of self-loathing that is half of yospos might proclaim. Well, I suppose the adtech driven rise of the database state is rather worrying. But you don't have to apologize for the actions of people who happen to do a somewhat similar job to you.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:49

gonadic io: Feb 16, 2011; >>=

so loving future posted:

OR:

*your company is primarily focused on revolutionizing the workplace through the real hot take of deconstructing and then perfectly reinventing completely ordinary organizational and management structures

*a coworker has a title like 'empathy engineer'

*company wide retreats

*earnest nodejs, mongodb use

does having a growth hacker count?

# ? Aug 5, 2016 21:49

HoboMan: Nov 4, 2010

Mr Dog posted:

Compared to professions like ad designer, pharma lobbyist, weapons manufacturer, investment banker, I'd say programming is pretty far down the list of professions with a lot of lovely people in it.

There isn't even anything intrinsically societally harmful about touching computers, despite what the puddle of self-loathing that is half of yospos might proclaim. Well, I suppose the adtech driven rise of the database state is rather worrying. But you don't have to apologize for the actions of people who happen to do a somewhat similar job to you.

i agree with this post

i always assumed randroids and the like mostly just don't understand how people actually work, and live in a fantasy land where hard work and being smart is always rewarded rather than them actually holding malice or indifference to others. which is not really empathy problems but i can't think of a better way to put it

those other professions you mentioned are deffo requiring sociopathic tendencies tho

# ? Aug 5, 2016 22:02

DONT THREAD ON ME: Oct 1, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo; Floss Finder

also open source relies on concepts like 'the greater good' and so on. i mean there are a lot of terrible open source fanatics but open source as a thing is pretty dang cool.

i dont think anyone contributes to open source for purely selfless reasons, but even so, it still inherently subverts the foundation of capitalism: that money and competition are the only way to drive innovation. clearly, people are very driven to innovate for no reason other than it feels good to create things.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 22:08

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

Yeah the number of libertarian open source fanatics (esr, most people working on bsd) always struck me as a lil weird

I would expect to see a lot more people with rms politics but his viewpoint is a stark minority

Modern open source seems to be largely driven by the raging torrent of stupid rich people money coursing through the sector right now. Making open source boosts ego and career prospects despite not generating much value for the person financing it, but the people financing it just throw money at everything software related these days so i guess startup people dick off making oss on account of nobody reigning them in.

# ? Aug 5, 2016 22:28

darthbob88: Oct 13, 2011; YOSPOS

Mr Dog posted:

Yeah the number of libertarian open source fanatics (esr, most people working on bsd) always struck me as a lil weird

Eh, makes sense to me. Of course somebody obsessed with personal freedom would go into free software. "You can't tell me what to do with my own software, Bill Gates!" or something like that.

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Mao Zedong Thot: Oct 16, 2008

Mr Dog posted:

Modern open source seems to be largely driven by the raging torrent of stupid rich people money coursing through the sector right now. Making open source boosts ego and career prospects despite not generating much value for the person financing it, but the people financing it just throw money at everything software related these days so i guess startup people dick off making oss on account of nobody reigning them in.

lol wat

# ? Aug 5, 2016 23:13

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