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Jordan7hm posted:I like that they pulled out some of the nasty c24 stuff and I do think theyll pull the worst c51 stuff. I certainly hope so but I think it's much more likely that there's a terror attack in the US now that Trump is in power (because they know he'll over-react), leading to new legislation there and at the very least the scrapping of C-51 reforms here. e:fwiw I think incompetent at governing is the right term for sure. Reince Penis fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Jordan7hm posted:I like that they pulled out some of the nasty c24 stuff and I do think theyll pull the worst c51 stuff. I am glad they restored the census for that matter but as you said they've mostly been pretty incompetent, have passed a record low number of bills, and they've hosed the dog on most of their important promises so far. Even if you are a proponent of pipelines I wouldn't exactly be celebrating the Liberals -- getting a pipeline approved is the easy part, Harper pulled that off as well but nothing actually got built. The one thing they are good at has generally been PR but even then this latest listening tour seems like it's kind of backfired so I wonder if their one weird trick of having the PM walk around taking selfies with everyone is starting to wear a bit thin as well.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Hey. Sticking my dick in here for a second. Uh, this is my final straw and I quitting and walking away as soon as I get another job. 
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Wait, did this thread manage to create that rarest of beasts... the guy who is enthusiastic about both Trudeau and Trump?James Baud posted:I like how nobody even entertains the notion that the Trump presidency could end up being fairly successful... not even as a contingency. The wonders of 2017 truly never cease. And it's only February 1st!
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After a full decade of carrying water for the LPC, Elizabeth May starts to suspect they might not be entirely on the level. https://twitter.com/l_stone/status/826865462948540417
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This isn't the worst thing a government has done since I bought these socks; surely her tenure has seen more terrible things than this.
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flakeloaf posted:
I'm surprised. I legit thought we finally had a chance of getting rid of FPTP. And now i'm pissed off. gently caress.
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flakeloaf posted:This isn't the worst thing a government has done since I bought these socks; surely her tenure has seen more terrible things than this. From an environmental perspective? Obviously. Not from the political party perspective though.
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lol, https://twitter.com/l_stone/status/826869441585672193
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flakeloaf posted:This isn't the worst thing a government has done since I bought these socks; surely her tenure has seen more terrible things than this. Like a lot of Obama supporters she may have imagined that Trudeau was playing 11th dimensional chess and preserving his political capital for something big, i.e. electoral reform or maybe an environmental policy slightly braver than a carbon tax (something even the Harper era conservatives included in their electoral platform within recent memory). Alternatively, May recognises that the rank and file of her own party are gonna be extremely pissed off by this and is trying to get ahead of the outrage since people might justifiably start asking why their leader has often acted as a de facto Liberal ally.
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Helsing posted:Alternatively, May recognises that the rank and file of her own party are gonna be extremely pissed off by this and is trying to get ahead of the outrage since people might justifiably start asking why their leader has often acted as a de facto Liberal ally. *we see a figure from the back wearing a bandolier and red bandana* *figure turns around, it's Elizabeth May, she puts on a pair of aviators* "The Liberals better be ready... for May-hem" *cocks a shotgun*
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I'm not surprised, but I am really disappointed. But hey, good on JT, he brought be back into canadian politics with this one. Who are the best dippers with a chance rn?
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:Listen: Even if Trump's administration is a runaway success, I'll  for "Kevin O'Leary will never be elected as Prime Minister of Canada". Trump shares a genuine resentment of the proffesional class above all with his electoral base. O'Leary has an impossible to disguise disdain for the working class instead. He is too much of true believer Reaganite, he's just sort of vulgar about it, and that's just not the same thing Trump is doing. It's not going to work for him. This is not saying "Trumpism" wouldn't work in Canada, it absolutely would, but O'Leary isn't the man for whom it will work. It would have to be someone else.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I'm not surprised, but I am really disappointed. But hey, good on JT, he brought be back into canadian politics with this one. Peter Julian imo. He absolutely will win his riding again, he's massively well-liked here.
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Lobok posted:*we see a figure from the back wearing a bandolier and red bandana* I'm in! Lets get this green party wagon rolling.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:I'm not surprised, but I am really disappointed. But hey, good on JT, he brought be back into canadian politics with this one. lol.
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James Baud posted:The street protests so far are basically sore loser tantrums in extremely blue states gently caress off. They're protests against the sexist racist fascist poo poo Trump is pulling. And the fact he lost by 3m+ popular votes.
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James Baud posted:I wouldn't say I'm enthusiastic about Trump, I was pulling for a few other Republicans ahead of him... But a Clinton win would've resulted in more of the same "sounds nice but accomplishes diddly squat" that Obama did in the last six years, so the only available choice to get past the obstructionist roadblock was to go hair of the dog with someone who isn't a religious fundamentalist and hope for the best. I also say gently caress all the people who are being negatively affected by this, they should just suck it up, it might work out in the future.
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Before the bans hit I will share screens hots of my reasons for believing jm20 is the one who doxxed
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M.McFly posted:lol. with a chance of becoming NDP leader at least
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James Baud posted:I wouldn't say I'm enthusiastic about Trump, I was pulling for a few other Republicans ahead of him... But a Clinton win would've resulted in more of the same "sounds nice but accomplishes diddly squat" that Obama did in the last six years, so the only available choice to get past the obstructionist roadblock was to go hair of the dog with someone who isn't a religious fundamentalist and hope for the best. Yeah Clinton sucked and the Democrats reaction to Trump is mostly contemptible but I was sorta more hoping give us your positive spin on the Trudeau government.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Hey. Sticking my dick in here for a second. Uh, this is my final straw and I quitting and walking away as soon as I get another job. I'm sorry you're in that lovely situation and had to go through all the stupid stuff coming out of this thread. This news is awful, I hope there's some perceptible public reaction to it.
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MMM Whatchya Say posted:with a chance of becoming NDP leader at least Running for leader are: Charlie Angus, Guy Caron, Peter Julian, Jagmeet Singh, maybe Niki Ashton. Sid Ryan is also testing the waters. Niki sucks and won't win, Angus and Ryan don't speak French well enough, the other three are cool. Caron doesn't have any kind of profile outside Québec and probably won't win, Julian is well-liked by the base, Jagmeet is lining up a lot of support and is the best organizer out of the bunch.
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Is Jagmeet actually running? I thought his long term goals were for the provincial NDP. Also Niki is cool come at me. E: Also now that Electoral Reform has been nixed, can we force Nathan Cullen into the race? Jump King fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Gregor Robinson should run.
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Does Jagmeet Singh have any notable policy positions? The only really specific thing of his I've come across was his "An Act to Amend the Insurance Act" which is typically milquetoast ONDP bullshit by the looks of it.
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James Baud posted:I wouldn't say I'm enthusiastic about Trump, I was pulling for a few other Republicans ahead of him... But a Clinton win would've resulted in more of the same "sounds nice but accomplishes diddly squat" that Obama did in the last six years, so the only available choice to get past the obstructionist roadblock was to go hair of the dog with someone who isn't a religious fundamentalist and hope for the best. I'm having a tough time discerning if this is a real post or not. The argument you're making is that because of obstructionist roadblocks, which are due to republicans in congress, you wanted a republican president so that poo poo can get done. You've decided that the best course of action is to give in to obstructionists demands, because hey, at least things will get done now. What do you think foreign visa holders who have now suddenly been preventing from travelling to the states, where they may have lived for loving years, would say to you?
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gently caress that 5yr old that was in cuffs at the airport and separated from his parents. And all those protesters trying to get them freed? Fuckin' sore losers! e: Ugh I knew it was a lazy troll and I replied anyways. Curses.
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M.McFly posted:I'm having a tough time discerning if this is a real post or not. The argument you're making is that because of obstructionist roadblocks, which are due to republicans in congress, you wanted a republican president so that poo poo can get done. You've decided that the best course of action is to give in to obstructionists demands, because hey, at least things will get done now. What do you think foreign visa holders who have now suddenly been preventing from travelling to the states, where they may have lived for loving years, would say to you? quote:Awful ones will get undone later, think long term. Edit: I misread that as what would you say to them.
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Helsing posted:Does Jagmeet Singh have any notable policy positions? Really unclear! Being ONDP deputy leader doesn't really leave him a lot of leeway to freelance and I'm not super clear on where he stands. fwiw: -I've seen him approvingly snapchat communists holding a "free tuition now" sign at a tuition protest -He's been pitched to me as radical on social justice issues and willing to listen to sound advice on economics, which I know you'll love. e:oh, this i guess.  Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Feb 1, 2017 |
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Let's do terrible things! Someone else can undo them later! - a sociopath
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Cerepol posted:Edit: I misread that as what would you say to them. Cant wait to see what right-wing nutcase gets appointed to the supreme court. Long term.
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For what it's worth, I think Nathan Cullen would make a good NDP Leader. I think he would take the party back towards the left, where it needs to be to succeed. He "gets it" https://twitter.com/glen_mcgregor/status/826860539041239042
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On a bit of tangent, but it's precisely this kind of lying by politicians that leads to the elections of Donald Trump, Rob Ford and their ilk. "The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists." - Hannah Arendt When people believe all politicians lie it's small jump to start believing the lies they like, (even when they know they're lies) because what's the difference. Look at the people who elected Trump: they're not the rubes progressives think they are. They know he's lying, they just don't care.
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