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Mordiceius posted:Which tank class is least hard to gently caress up? I've never tanked before and I want to give it a shot as I want to do something other than healing for once. Paladin is the good tank class
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SL the Pyro posted:
it was all you, the group of stupid pubbies was just waiting for a goon to save them from the boss in the 24 person raid
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zolthorg posted:Paladin is the brain dead tank class
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Jun 8, 2016 18:43
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Fister Roboto posted:Please, everyone, if you're in a Nidhogg party and people are telling you to stand in the circles, call them idiots. I can see this stupid idea easily spreading. About 3 years in and I'm still the only one I see not trying to hide behind rocks for Garuda's Aerial Blast. I'm sorry, it's too late already.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:46
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Paladin is a good tank to learn the basics of tanking on, if you can hold aggro as a PLD 30-40 you can hold aggro on drat near anything  Warrior is fairly different, ability-wise, and Dark Knight is for if you liked Paladin but thought it was too simple, pretty much. My 60 tank is DRK and it really does play a lot like if they'd just added an extra MP management system to Paladin and scratched out all instances of "physical" to change them to "magical."
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Irae posted:About 3 years in and I'm still the only one I see not trying to hide behind rocks for Garuda's Aerial Blast. I'm sorry, it's too late already. Assuming you mean in trial roulette rather than EX.
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Jun 8, 2016 18:57
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The long cutscene at the end was somewhat spoiled because I kept waiting for a beloved character to get impaled on Tokyo Tower. EDIT: I also recommend PLD for learning the basics of tanking.
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Mordiceius posted:Which tank class is least hard to gently caress up? PLD for sure. Lots of cool downs to keep yourself alive and to be a good WAR/DRK you need to be able to manage your TP/MP. Start with PLD and if you finding itself getting bored, try the others. In terms of class specific gear, it really depends on what you like. PLD is your traditional knight look. DRK is daaaaark. And War is err barbariany.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:08
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SirPhoebos posted:The long cutscene at the end was somewhat spoiled because I kept waiting for a beloved character to get impaled on Tokyo Tower. Is this a Drakengard reference or
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Jun 8, 2016 19:14
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This patch is amazing and I love it. Got a house, got a paissa minion, and did both the story trial and the new 24 man (where i got a chest piece!) with the first group I just duty findered into. We wiped a lot as everybody was basically running blind, but we pulled through. Even the relic doesn't seem that bad - feels like the major hurdle is going to be Eso.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:16
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Irae posted:About 3 years in and I'm still the only one I see not trying to hide behind rocks for Garuda's Aerial Blast. I'm sorry, it's too late already. To be fair, that one has precedent in having to hide behind the rocks for other mechanics.
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Jun 8, 2016 19:55
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Having a full FC party at least meant our own group was solid but unfortunately you can't really carry stupid very well in Weeping City. Lots of Ozma attempts in an 8-man premade ended with me briefly focused entirely on a bunch of meteor and positioning mechanics. After they're all over I get a chance to glance at the alliance list and my party is fine and everyone else is dead. Runner up is attempts on the first boss ending with literally everyone charging into the tear in the upper web and leaving no one up top to do things. Enough about the 24-man though, you know what's surprisingly great? Aquapolis. The little music tension sting before a door opens/shuts is great and EVERYONE starts flipping out when it opens even if it's the first choice. I had one run that did the fake-out door-slam-then-open that had everyone laughing hysterically (that run was the farthest we had gotten at that point). The bonus boss is amazing though. Started a chest fight and when the last set of gates open a giant cyclops dropped from the loving ceiling. The music instantly changed to the Coil boss fight music while I try to wrangle a dozen adds and an angry cyclops with no AoE markers on his attacks.
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Verranicus posted:Is this a Drakengard reference or You know it is 
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Fister Roboto posted:Please, everyone, if you're in a Nidhogg party and people are telling you to stand in the circles, call them idiots. I can see this stupid idea easily spreading. It was just day 1 thing,I was in masochistic mood and went to do some DFing today and people don't spread it anymore The circles would make more sense though, now that part is very mechanical dps check with little thematical sense Then I got dream DF where everyone had apparently wiped on it enough to learn the strats and we cleared it on second try, I hate the fight by now but the fight we won was dramatic and close even without fuckups so I could see some beauty in it. Of course I'd goon FC, but I live in eu so goon things rarely work for me and well, I play ffxiv in bursts anyway mallamp fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 8, 2016 |
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https://twitter.com/ffxivflavortext/status/740507036157349888
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I'm 58 Dark Knight right now and it's about the same, maybe a little harder with juggling MP. How is Warrior compared to PLD and DRK?
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Jun 8, 2016 20:39
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Pierson posted:I'm 58 Dark Knight right now and it's about the same, maybe a little harder with juggling MP. Fun.
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CrashScreen posted:Fun.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:07
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I'm kind of disappointed that they didn't make Dragonsong sync up with the fight at all like Answers in T13, but really nothing will ever be able to top the Teraflare transition.
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Pierson posted:I'm 58 Dark Knight right now and it's about the same, maybe a little harder with juggling MP. Easier than drk, maybe a little harder than pld but not really. Your main spammable aoe threat move is a cone rather than a circle, and it uses TP instead of MP but it's nbd. You have two combos (two and a half maybe) but knowing which one to use when is very intuitive. Stacking and spending wrath/abandon is also pretty intuitive. Or, to put it another way, it's fun. You play like a dps and act like a tank.
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Jun 8, 2016 21:16
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My favorite timed song transition is still the old Shiva song, sure it's cheesy as hell but that's why i play this game
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Ainsley McTree posted:Easier than drk, maybe a little harder than pld but not really. Your main spammable aoe threat move is a cone rather than a circle, and it uses TP instead of MP but it's nbd. You have two combos (two and a half maybe) but knowing which one to use when is very intuitive. Stacking and spending wrath/abandon is also pretty intuitive. The main sticking point with WAR's is that their main defensive cooldown only lasts five seconds (but is up way more often) so you have to pay a lot more attention to what the boss is doing in order to maximize/not waste it compared to PLD/DRK who's main defensive cooldown lasts for twenty seconds. WAR's are all about the offensive though. If you like making big numbers bigger (both outward and incoming damage) then you'll love WAR. As someone who loves making huge numbers tiny-to-nonixistent I prefer PLD. DRK is pretty cool either way once you get mana management down.
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Ran Sohr Khai yesterday with a group of pubbies that were just as blind to the dungeon as I was, and I gotta say, even though it took us about an hour to clear it (and a few wipes at Death Pony before we finally figured it out), it was a pretty fun experience. Same for the mostly-pubbie group I ran Final Steps with, we still wiped a couple of times but we had an experienced tank who was patient and helpful with explaining the mechanics to the rest of us scrubs, and my co-healer helped us pull a clutch victory on attempt #3 with an LB3. First time I've been able to do new patch content on day 1, and I had a blast  I still need to try Hullbreaker HM and Mhach, but I might just give Sohr Khai another go or two whenever I log on later. The parts where Hraesvelgr swoops over you were just   
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mallamp posted:My favorite timed song transition is still the old Shiva song, sure it's cheesy as hell but that's why i play this game 
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Jun 8, 2016 21:39
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Solovey posted:
I saved this till I'm done with MSQ additions and it was such a wrong order.. It's a literal sunny paradise that you just faceroll through, all mechanics could be bruteforce healed
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Jun 8, 2016 21:47
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Aquapolis is the best content ever put in the game.
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I find DRK the easiest tank, to be honest. Unleash and AD work better to grab threat than flash and overpower from my experience. As long as you aren't terrible at managing MP you'll be fine. I do love WAR at times though. Berserk triple fell cleaves and triple decimates for trash packs are pretty much the best.
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mallamp posted:My favorite timed song transition is still the old Shiva song, sure it's cheesy as hell but that's why i play this game Just let it go.
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mallamp posted:I saved this till I'm done with MSQ additions and it was such a wrong order.. It's a literal sunny paradise that you just faceroll through, all mechanics could be bruteforce healed I'm glad to hear that, tbh. I just barreled through the MSQ as quickly as possible so I could go back to browsing the internet and turn shout/yell chat back on without fear of big story spoilers 
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Jun 8, 2016 22:00
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I loving love Aquapolis and whoever designed it. Also, I loving hate Aquapolis and its bullshit coinflips powered by your suffering. I won't say any more about it, because people really need to experience it for themselves. (We ran a bunch of maps last night in a 5-man group and got to room 1, 1, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, and 7, and I ended up 6mil richer on account of selling glass fiber to thirsty crafters and the Twilight Over Thanalan music to thirsty 1.0 players. Didn't sell my Paissa Brat though, he's my buddy )
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zolthorg posted:aquapolis is 60 content only right I just got done with a ton of Aquapolist. I think we did 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 4 on ours. It is literally the most anxious I have ever been in this game.
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Jun 8, 2016 22:12
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Mordiceius posted:Aquapolis is the best content ever put in the game. It's amazing I went there once and got to floor 5 and holy poo poo the cutscenes are amazing amaziiing amazing
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Jun 8, 2016 22:27
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SwissArmyDruid posted:
And then Nidhogg come in the NIII-IIIIIIIIIIGHHHT!
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Jun 8, 2016 22:39
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PhilippAchtel posted:And besides, it's not like you can't wrangle up people in the FCs to run just about any old dungeon or primal. No-one wanted to do Odin with me  Wiped for an hour with pubbies instead and lost
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Jun 8, 2016 22:48
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What is with Odin anyway? I had the same thing happen and I've never beaten him. The Armor average is way too low
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If you want to curbstomp Odin try starting a party in the party finder and just do it unsynced. He's more tuned to being an extreme trial than a hard one but instead of wipe mechanics he just has piles of damage, aoes, and bleeds. The minimum ilv is 95 but it really isn't a number that a DF party can have and expect to clear. Really I think half the problem with Odin is just perception since it isn't labeled as an extreme trial. He isn't part of the trial roulette for a reason.
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Did the lobby server die?
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Can I bring my pre-60 friends into Aquapolis with me?
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