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comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

like shooting rose emojis in a barrel

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Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

etalian posted:

The DSA was a great "though experiment" since it really reaffirms Lenin's criticism and mockery of socialist reform movements.

Social fascists gonna fash and cope about their political utopia and polycules but the only future is the CPUSA led in fraternal brotherhood by the Communist Party of China

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Top City Homo posted:

Social fascists gonna fash and cope about their political utopia and polycules but the only future is the CPUSA led in fraternal brotherhood by the Communist Party of China

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley
Wait they literally ban you for using the only effective organizing strategy?

What a bunch of fuckin dorks lmao. They're not even getting paid to do the feds work for them.

CaptainACAB has issued a correction as of 02:22 on Dec 5, 2021

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
Look man the democrats will stop sending checks if they actually start winning

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

comedyblissoption posted:

like shooting rose emojis in a barrel

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

I'd like an Israeli flag as my icon badge to show my solitary with Jamaal Bowman

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Instead of joining the DSA, you should join the military, the tech industry, or else get a job working at an important piece of national infrastructure and then start making surreptitious trips to the nearest Confucius Institution.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Mantis42 posted:

Instead of joining the DSA, you should join the military, the tech industry, or else get a job working at an important piece of national infrastructure and then start making surreptitious trips to the nearest Confucius Institution.

Catch up buddy, the Confucius Institute was named (by congress) a foreign mission and universities were informed they could no longer receive various types of federal aid if they hosted a CI chapter. So most of them are disappearing

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Hmm, after some investigation it turns out that I've been handing industrial secrets over to the cashier at Panda Express this whole time.

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009
Re: Sawant recall
https://twitter.com/film_girl/status/1468438011100557312

Gotta love the DSA

CaptainJuan
Oct 15, 2008

Thick. Juicy. Tender.

Imagine cutting into a Barry White Song.
https://twitter.com/SeattleDSA/status/1468745091875422210

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
i do wonder if they have the ability to expel someone like that if she was part of the organization and not just making poo poo up

Max Peck
Oct 12, 2013

You know you're having a bad day when a Cylon ambush would improve it.

mila kunis posted:

i do wonder if they have the ability to expel someone like that if she was part of the organization and not just making poo poo up

the NPC has just demonstrated that they do not

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


Hey now we have the ability, just not the ideological commitment

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
isn’t Socialist Alternative an organization which opposes police abolition? perhaps Sawant should be purged right alongside Bowman and this Warren character

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

FWIW I’ve gotten multiple emails from Seattle DSA and all of them were about voting against the recall, so she’s definitely not speaking the majority position.

Also, no one I’ve talked to seems to know her :shrug:

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Why do people keep linking to random jackoffs on Twitter?

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

isn’t Socialist Alternative an organization which opposes police abolition? perhaps Sawant should be purged right alongside Bowman and this Warren character

where do you get that idea? it’s not something I’ve ever heard.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


That lady was such a dipshit that the chapter did some tweets

https://twitter.com/SeattleDSA/status/1468745090591907847?t=Esw9a9k9-EjZTT1L7gNvDw&s=19

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley
I have no idea why the DSA would ever allow bourgeois fucks in anyway unless they're just poseurs with no ideology or discipline.


Which they are.

Still, it would be like an organization advocating for the rights of chickens admitting a fox.

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


CaptainACAB posted:

I have no idea why the DSA would ever allow bourgeois fucks in anyway unless they're just poseurs with no ideology or discipline.

the bar to membership is "do you have a few bucks, or time to email national asking for a dues waiver" lmao it's not like losers like this somehow duped the npc

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

slicing up eyeballs posted:

the bar to membership is "do you have a few bucks, or time to email national asking for a dues waiver" lmao it's not like losers like this somehow duped the npc

hey come on this is unfair

you also have to pinkie swear to never participate in agitation

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

slicing up eyeballs posted:

the bar to membership is "do you have a few bucks, or time to email national asking for a dues waiver" lmao it's not like losers like this somehow duped the npc

hey come on this is unfair

you also have to pinkie swear to never participate in agitation

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

slicing up eyeballs posted:

the bar to membership is "do you have a few bucks, or time to email national asking for a dues waiver" lmao it's not like losers like this somehow duped the npc

hey come on this is unfair

you also have to pinkie swear to never participate in agitation

slicing up eyeballs
Oct 19, 2005

I got me two olives and a couple of limes


slicing up eyeballs posted:

the bar to membership is "do you have a few bucks, or time to email national asking for a dues waiver" lmao it's not like losers like this somehow duped the npc

hey come on this is unfair

you also have to pinkie swear to never participate in agitation

fermun
Nov 4, 2009
Since she is a dual-carder (joined DSA like 6 months ago) and we've been talking about her, may as well post it here: Sawant beat the recall.
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1469089490681556992

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

don’t pop the cork quite yet, champagne socialists. there’s still people who hosed up their own dang signatures. but maybe get the flutes out

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

mawarannahr posted:

where do you get that idea? it’s not something I’ve ever heard.

quote:

Socialist Alternative has not taken up the approach taken by many on the left of adding immediate police abolition to our general political program. This is because, from the standpoint of Marxists, a political program should be a guide to action for the working class. We want to draw the widest possible section of society into the struggle against racial oppression and capitalism, and that means crafting a political program that people are willing to fight for. Broadly speaking, the demand to abolish the police has very limited support, including among the Black working class. Even at the height of the rebellion last summer, where popular support for the movement skyrocketed, the demand for police abolition only had 15% support. While the demands for sweeping police reform have much broader support, abolition leaves many wondering who would provide “public safety” in the absence of any police force.

Another reason we have not adopted this demand is because before the question of abolishing the police can be posed in any real way, we first need to end the rule of capital and lay the basis for a classless, socialist society. There is no abolishing the police on the basis of capitalism, the ruling class simply won’t allow it.
https://www.socialistalternative.or...rcement-terror/

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Sawant believes in following a party line, which is way more than you can say for AOC or Bowman or any other "DSA" elected. Although it should be mentioned a ton of DSA people helped campaign both for Sawant and against her recall.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


you’re right, I haven’t followed very closely. in light of how things have played out, do you think they might be right and that there are fish that are actually possible to fry when most people don’t support total abolition?

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
as a member of dsa but not salt, my opinion of the merits and demerits of salt's position on abolition is secondary to my point, relevant to DSA, that the desire to purge people, or factions, is frequently understandable but undesirable from the standpoint of a democratically organized, voluntary, mass political organization. it's a desire that leads things in a destructive and uncontrollable direction.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
that's how you get liberals

Yadoppsi
May 10, 2009

fermun posted:

Since she is a dual-carder (joined DSA like 6 months ago) and we've been talking about her, may as well post it here: Sawant beat the recall.
https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1469089490681556992

That's good news but King County Elections says there are still 591 signature challenges in this race. How are disputed signatures arbitrated in Seattle?

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Yadoppsi posted:

That's good news but King County Elections says there are still 591 signature challenges in this race. How are disputed signatures arbitrated in Seattle?

Either the ballets are cured, i.e. the voters in question fix the issue with their signature, or they are nullified I think. At least, that's how it works with the mayoral election. I assume that is how it works for other municipal elections

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


this is what our chapter has resolved about the bowman nonsense

i remember years ago someone telling me that we might be one of the most extreme chapters in the country and my reacting with instant disbelief. now i believe it, though it doesn't make me happy to.

CaptainACAB
Sep 14, 2021

by Jeffrey of Langley

Doc Hawkins posted:

this is what our chapter has resolved about the bowman nonsense

i remember years ago someone telling me that we might be one of the most extreme chapters in the country and my reacting with instant disbelief. now i believe it, though it doesn't make me happy to.

Yes now the logical next step is to break away from the suicidally doomed DSA and form an actual left wing party with discipline, ideology and clear goals.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


CaptainACAB posted:

Yes now the logical next step is to break away from the suicidally doomed DSA and form an actual left wing party with discipline, ideology and clear goals.

there are already political parties we can join. that some people express their self-destructive and self-isolating urges through the DSA is one of the reasons i remain a member: to stop them. it's a site of struggle, not a label to help me feel clarity.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
This Jamal Bowman poo poo may be the final straw for me to cancel my membership.

What organization should I join instead?

I'm thinking of Socialist Alternative but they don't have a chapter in Portland.

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
which party or org should I join instead of DSA is the wrong question just start a communist book club instead at least you'll tangibly help spread the message of revolution and maybe help some workers achieve class consciousness

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