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GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof

Never get off the bike.

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dema
Aug 13, 2006

Sagebrush posted:

He had it for less than a week before it was stolen. He said he thought the key had fallen out of his pocket, because it was missing too, and someone had found it and wandered around until they found the bike that fit and ridden off.

$20 says he left the key in the ignition.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

dema posted:

$20 says he left the key in the ignition.

Is that not how we're supposed to get a new bike?

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib

Beach Bum posted:

Is that not how we're supposed to get a new bike?

Worked for chiche

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
My insurance specifically doesn't pay out for theft if you leave the keys in the bike. Or if you leave the steering lock off.

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Renaissance Robot posted:

My insurance specifically doesn't pay out for theft if you leave the keys in the bike. Or if you leave the steering lock off.

How would they know, unless it was recovered or there's video?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

Finger Prince posted:

How would they know, unless it was recovered or there's video?

I'd suspect this would only kick in if it was recovered and had an unmolested ignition switch?

Mister Speaker
May 8, 2007

WE WILL CONTROL
ALL THAT YOU SEE
AND HEAR
I've forgotten the keys in the ignition once or twice since I got my first bike in more than a decade. Definitely a panic moment. Fortunately, the only two places I've ever done that were at home, where I immediately cover the bike and it's parked right outside my bedroom window (I have been meaning to get a chain though) and at work, where there's a bouncer (who is also a riding buddy) standing less than 20 feet away from my parking spot.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

What the hell are YOU?
I've dropped my key in a parking lot only to come back to my bike and find the key on the seat. Thanks, kind stranger.

Coydog
Mar 5, 2007



Fallen Rib

Mister Speaker posted:

(I have been meaning to get a chain though)

You need to get a something that secures your bike. I've had great success with this for years, even in high theft areas with a supermoto. Yeah, lockpickinglawyer blah blah, but it might give you the flexibility you need.


https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Quantum-Cuff-8295DPSCC/dp/B003CJEPI4

Redvenom
Jun 17, 2003
I also owe BunnyX :10Bux:

Jonny 290 posted:

OK so for real how do i get a drz front end up a bit

i'm scared. i won't deny it
i'm not going to flip right

SM's also have a decent front brake (especially if you get some good pads), so shuffling up the tank a bit makes it easy as to stoppie.

I find that stoppies are a bit more practical for me as I only ride when commuting, and have plenty of sets of traffic lights I can use for said purpose.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Learn low speed clutch up wheelie technique to get the front wheel up. Always cover rear brake to prevent a loop out. Compress the suspension and use the suspension rebound to help lift the front end. Throttle up and clutch out. Timing is key. Once you get it, the front end comes up real easy. Power wheelies where you don't cover the rear brake end up in YouTube fail videos.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Verman posted:

Learn low speed clutch up wheelie technique to get the front wheel up. Always cover rear brake to prevent a loop out. Compress the suspension and use the suspension rebound to help lift the front end. Throttle up and clutch out. Timing is key. Once you get it, the front end comes up real easy. Power wheelies where you don't cover the rear brake end up in YouTube fail videos.

How do I do this on a not-motard, without crashing? I've done loads of wheelies on power alone, but the thought of popping the clutch and looping, or slamming the front back down and crashing, has paralysed me from learning how for the better part of a decade.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?
Oh sorry, I thought the question was how to lift the front on a drz/sumo style bike. I have no idea on big/real bikes but I assume the concept is the same. Coming from a bmx/mtb background to Moto ... I kept struggling trying to muscle up a wheelie and then tried just straight power which can be terrifying. It helps I have a WR250 that I've dropped riding trails a hundred times. Also helped looking up a lot of clutch up technique videos and practiced when I could.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Coydog posted:

You need to get a something that secures your bike. I've had great success with this for years, even in high theft areas with a supermoto. Yeah, lockpickinglawyer blah blah, but it might give you the flexibility you need.


https://www.amazon.com/Master-Lock-Quantum-Cuff-8295DPSCC/dp/B003CJEPI4

If nothing else, lockpickinglawyer proves all locks are essentially garbage and unless you’re ready to spend half the cost of your bike on a lock then just get the scariest looking one you can.

Bike thieves don’t pick locks. If they did they would pick the ignition rather than breaking it.

E: but, DO watch lockpickinglawyer to make sure the lock you want can’t be opened in some incredibly stupid way with no tools or something like that.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass
My favourite is the office desk drawer one where you can just pop the entire barrel out by jamming a paperclip in it in the right place.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Lockpickinglawyer is the one channel I’ll always watch because it’s super informative despite being full of things I’ll never ever do

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Lockpickinglawyer is the one channel I’ll always watch because it’s super informative despite being full of things I’ll never ever do

Same only the hydraulic press channel.

Strife
Apr 20, 2001

What the hell are YOU?

Renaissance Robot posted:

My favourite is the office desk drawer one where you can just pop the entire barrel out by jamming a paperclip in it in the right place.

Hah, I had one of those desks at an old job once.

The thing about locks is, they're basically meant to deter people who don't want to spend an extra minute getting into something. If someone wants something, you might as well inconvenience them as much as you can, but they're probably still going to get it. I watched a DEFCON video once where a guy was talking about how he could break into an ATM or a bank lobby with a key he bought on Amazon, ignoring that the whole front of the building was made of glass.

Definitely buy a lock, but the best deterrent is to just park near other, more expensive and less-secured motorcycles.

Ola
Jul 19, 2004

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

it’s super informative despite being full of things I’ll never ever do

Most of my youtube subs.

HenryJLittlefinger
Jan 31, 2010

stomp clap


Finger Prince posted:

Same only the hydraulic press channel.

Folding paper 9 times with a hydraulic press remains in my top 5 youtube videos ever.

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Strife posted:

Hah, I had one of those desks at an old job once.

The thing about locks is, they're basically meant to deter people who don't want to spend an extra minute getting into something. If someone wants something, you might as well inconvenience them as much as you can, but they're probably still going to get it. I watched a DEFCON video once where a guy was talking about how he could break into an ATM or a bank lobby with a key he bought on Amazon, ignoring that the whole front of the building was made of glass.

Definitely buy a lock, but the best deterrent is to just park near other, more expensive and less-secured motorcycles.

Locks are definitely on a sliding scale of effort. Like yes theoretically anything can be picked or cut given enough time and fucks, but what percentage of assailants are going to have a sufficient supply of both to be bothered trying? The thicker the lock and chain you get, the smaller that percentage gets, though it never goes to zero.

Also the actual best defence is to ride a motocompo and park it under your desk. Thieves can't steal something if they don't know it's there!

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Did Kawasaki have a contemporary to the Honda CB350 back in the 70s? I know there's a lot of info on wikipedia but there's almost too much to go through. Essentially wondering how they competed with a CB350 on styling/displacement/power/etc, assuming they did at all.

General interest. Not buying more bikes :P

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

super informative despite being full of things I’ll never ever do

Same but PornHub.

DearSirXNORMadam
Aug 1, 2009
I dunno about the early 70ies, but from 1974 they had the KZ400 and eventually 440 which probably comes pretty close to competing with the CB350. (Typical Kawasaki move, increase displacement by 10%, numbar go up)(The typical Honda move is having like 15 different engine displacements for basically the same bike)

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Here4DaGangBang
Dec 3, 2004

I beat my dick like it owes me money!

Ola posted:

Most of my youtube subs.

NotMeTube

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Martytoof posted:

Did Kawasaki have a contemporary to the Honda CB350 back in the 70s? I know there's a lot of info on wikipedia but there's almost too much to go through. Essentially wondering how they competed with a CB350 on styling/displacement/power/etc, assuming they did at all.

General interest. Not buying more bikes :P

Mirconium posted:

I dunno about the early 70ies, but from 1974 they had the KZ400 and eventually 440 which probably comes pretty close to competing with the CB350. (Typical Kawasaki move, increase displacement by 10%, numbar go up)(The typical Honda move is having like 15 different engine displacements for basically the same bike)

Beat me to it. Definitely the kz400. Somehow I was lucky enough to get to work on a very clean and tidy one and the overall impression was of a pleasant, simple and robust machine. Great handling and brakes for the type of bike it is, and a surprisingly entertaining engine.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
Awesome, thanks! I've always had a soft spot for for older street bikes and right now I'm on a team Kawa kick. Some awesome reading ahead :)

SirLeigh
Aug 9, 2008

Sorry guys, I should have clarified that this is what I meant when I said I was considering crash bars.

Shelvocke
Aug 6, 2013

Microwave Engraver
They'd probably protect your paintwork if you dropped it in the driveway but the front one especially looks like it'd snap off and perforate your kidney at anything over 10mph

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Yeah those look like they'd do more damage than just having nothing there.

Really the whole thing just screams "I'm scared shitless and have already accepted I'll fall over" which is only acceptable on dirtybikes.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




What you want is plastic sliders so they actually slide. Often they come with their own bolts that are designed to stretch safely rather than hold tight and bend your frame.

epswing
Nov 4, 2003

Soiled Meat

Is that a late-model Street Bob?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

What you want is plastic sliders so they actually slide. Often they come with their own bolts that are designed to stretch safely rather than hold tight and bend your frame.

The OES frame sliders I have are so form fitting that the second they contact the ground the bolt will bend and it'll crack my plastics anyway. I can see why Kawasaki's OEM sliders have a lot of clearance between the plastics and bolts.

Another reason I should have just bought OEM.

Shelvocke
Aug 6, 2013

Microwave Engraver

Slavvy posted:

Yeah those look like they'd do more damage than just having nothing there.

Really the whole thing just screams "I'm scared shitless and have already accepted I'll fall over" which is only acceptable on dirtybikes.

What I'm hearing is that dirt bikes are for real men

DearSirXNORMadam
Aug 1, 2009
See also: seat belts, pork safety regulations, umbrellas

SirLeigh
Aug 9, 2008

epalm posted:

Is that a late-model Street Bob?

Yeah, it's a 2018. Mine is a 2020.

mewse
May 2, 2006

If you're in Canada, princess auto has this lift on sale for $100 right now. I've used it to work on the front wheel on my ninja 250, it's a good lift.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 
I don’t think I need it, but all of a sudden I can’t bear thinking of life without one :ohdear:

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




The workshop importance hierarchy goes as follows:

Lighting->Tools/Workholding->Space->Comfort->Entertainment

I feel like a lift falls into the second most important category there is, so yeah, you need one

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