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GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
Regarding Ghost Mode, you'd think that a dude as professional as a Ghost wouldn't just fling magazines to the ground during reloads.

I think it would be way better if in Ghost mode, you didn't simply lose ammo on reload, but instead you always had X clips available to use in your inventory (depending on your ammo skill), and pressing the reload button would simply cycle through those clips and always load the magazine with the most ammo in it. If you use all but two rounds in your first clip then reload, then empty every other magazine, eventually you'd load your first magazine again and find you only have 2 rounds available in it, etc.

For the interface, instead of showing just "clip ammo / inventory ammo" it could show "clip 1 ammo / clip 2 ammo / clip 3 ammo / etc" and your currently loaded clip could be highlighted or something.

After a while, if you got down to only having like 2 rounds in each clip, you could hold the reload button instead of just pressing it to perform a long animation "ammo consolidation" thing where you redistribute put all your ammo into as few clips as possible.


I dunno. Seems like the best way to let people really sperg about ammo conservation while also not being too terribly punishing.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jul 21, 2018

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

GreatGreen posted:

Regarding Ghost Mode, you'd think that a dude as professional as a Ghost wouldn't just fling magazines to the ground during reloads.

I think it would be way better if in Ghost mode, you didn't simply lose ammo on reload, but instead you always had X clips available to use in your inventory (depending on your ammo skill), and pressing the reload button would simply cycle through those clips and always load the magazine with the most ammo in it. If you use all but two rounds in your first clip then reload, then empty every other magazine, eventually you'd load your first magazine again and find you only have 2 rounds available in it, etc.

For the interface, instead of showing just "clip ammo / inventory ammo" it could show "clip 1 ammo / clip 2 ammo / clip 3 ammo / etc" and your currently loaded clip could be highlighted or something.

After a while, if you got down to only having like 2 rounds in each clip, you could hold the reload button instead of just pressing it to perform a long animation "ammo consolidation" thing where you redistribute put all your ammo into as few clips as possible.


I dunno. Seems like the best way to let people really sperg about ammo conservation while also not being too terribly punishing.

Especially considering I’m pretty sure clip rotation like that was in the Advanced Warfighter GR games like a decade+ ago.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

doctor 7 posted:

What's up every time I'm riding a motorcycle.

i thought they patched that making it less likely for you to smash your bike on pebble and die.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Taintrunner posted:

Yeah I only beat it because I watched a guide and it was hilarious how easy it is once you actually know where you're supposed to go.

The problem is if you die in the shootout for whatever reason you have to repeat the entire mission all the way from the start. So loving frustrating.

Once, the checkpoint bugged out and instead of just restarting the mission it sent me to a previous area and I had to wait out the clock all over again for the mission to start. :goleft:

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i thought they patched that making it less likely for you to smash your bike on pebble and die.

if im going to be honest most of my motorcycle deaths are not really because of the pebbles

E: unless we're considering climbing/descending a literal mountain a pebble. in which case, gently caress those pebbles :shrug:

quite stretched out
Feb 17, 2011

the chillest

doctor 7 posted:

What's up every time I'm riding a motorcycle.

same but the dozens of times my friend has jumped off something and gotten the parachute prompt and ive stepped off 1cm to the right and just fallen to my rocky demise

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

lol rocky demise

Otoh I drove a half mile off the edge of a mountain in a suburban and walked out unscathed

I love this game lmao

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



Any chance this will get a nice price cut for the new content release? I may pick it up again on PS4, at least base game for loving around.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
I've only ever played this with a KB+M.

How's the auto-aim when using a controller?

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

GreatGreen posted:

I've only ever played this with a KB+M.

How's the auto-aim when using a controller?

Totally fine.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Is my character endless repeating the voice clip about Sam Fisher and how cool he is the game's way of telling me to just do the Sam Fisher mission or he'll never stop talking? It plays after every god drat fast travel or respawn.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Guillermus posted:

Any chance this will get a nice price cut for the new content release? I may pick it up again on PS4, at least base game for loving around.

It goes on sale all the time.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Pierson posted:

Is my character endless repeating the voice clip about Sam Fisher and how cool he is the game's way of telling me to just do the Sam Fisher mission or he'll never stop talking? It plays after every god drat fast travel or respawn.

Yes. As soon as you do the mission, the game stops that.

Pro tip: Play it on Arcade difficulty, seriously. The mission is complete bullshit. You’ll thank me later.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jul 24, 2018

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Pierson posted:

Is my character endless repeating the voice clip about Sam Fisher and how cool he is the game's way of telling me to just do the Sam Fisher mission or he'll never stop talking? It plays after every god drat fast travel or respawn.

I think this patch hosed it up, it usually only does the thing at 21:00 to prod you once

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
Is there really no way to adjust the time of day in this game?

Also, now that I’m thinking about it, do light levels actually play into stealth? It’s never really been obvious to me one way or the other.

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

GreatGreen posted:

Is there really no way to adjust the time of day in this game?

Also, now that I’m thinking about it, do light levels actually play into stealth? It’s never really been obvious to me one way or the other.

Light levels and bushes/foliage do too

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

GreatGreen posted:



Also, now that I’m thinking about it, do light levels actually play into stealth? It’s never really been obvious to me one way or the other.

yeah, the sam fisher mission for example gets easier when you shoot out the lights (obv from very far away or with the Occult)

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



We did the Sam Fisher job as a team of three and boy howdy is that mission some trash. Had one attempt ruined by a guard who bugged out and wouldn’t budge from his post. Had another where we left to get a chopper and at some point just Failed The Mission outta nowhere.

But we finally did it! It felt super good to beat, finally. The goggles are an OK reward but the real treasure was never hearing about this mission again.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

Goa Tse-tung posted:

I think this patch hosed it up, it usually only does the thing at 21:00 to prod you once

It's been doing that poo poo since whenever I beat that mission in April or whatever

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.
so where is Twitch and rainbow six mission?

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

huh. im missing a bunch of weapon attachments i had unlocked now that they patched the game? anybody else?

E: lol the steam forums for this game tell me that im far from alone.

shelving the game until this is fixed, basically all my guns attachments are gone and my tier level is high enough that it forces me to play on hardest difficulty so meh :shrug:

Worf fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Jul 25, 2018

Sestze
Jun 6, 2004



Cybernetic Crumb

Sixto Lezcano posted:

We did the Sam Fisher job as a team of three and boy howdy is that mission some trash. Had one attempt ruined by a guard who bugged out and wouldn’t budge from his post. Had another where we left to get a chopper and at some point just Failed The Mission outta nowhere.

But we finally did it! It felt super good to beat, finally. The goggles are an OK reward but the real treasure was never hearing about this mission again.
my solution to beat that stupid loving mission was to reduce the difficulty to the lowest it goes, fly over in a helicopter and jump out, diving into the base and parachuting into the building sam was in.

AI partners wander in eventually, talk to sam, then leave the building and hang out under the guard tower at one of the corners of the base. Shoot all mans that wander towards you, shoot helicopters with Big Sniper Rifle Of Choice.

When he's done hacking, run through the woods, call a car, and try to offroad your way to the RV point to avoid unidad freaking the gently caress out.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Dapper_Swindler posted:

so where is Twitch and rainbow six mission?

bottom right, it's a yellow 6


also for the challenge get a shotgun with a long barrel, you need to take out two helis at one point

Bob NewSCART
Feb 1, 2012

Outstanding afternoon. "I've often said there's nothing better for the inside of a man than the outside of a horse."

Saw this fix in the notes and got really sad I didn’t know about it before it got fixed lol

PVE
ALL Platforms:
- Fixed an issue where Users could unlock in-game Store items without paying during a HotJoin


Also how is the pvp in this? I’ve never tried it.

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

Statutory Ape posted:

huh. im missing a bunch of weapon attachments i had unlocked now that they patched the game? anybody else?

E: lol the steam forums for this game tell me that im far from alone.

shelving the game until this is fixed, basically all my guns attachments are gone and my tier level is high enough that it forces me to play on hardest difficulty so meh :shrug:

Gain access to Ghost mode a week early!*





*So buggy you lose poo poo you've unlocked though.

Nice loving work Ubisoft.

Tart Kitty
Dec 17, 2016

Oh, well, that's all water under the bridge, as I always say. Water under the bridge!

Sixto Lezcano posted:

We did the Sam Fisher job as a team of three and boy howdy is that mission some trash. Had one attempt ruined by a guard who bugged out and wouldn’t budge from his post. Had another where we left to get a chopper and at some point just Failed The Mission outta nowhere.

But we finally did it! It felt super good to beat, finally. The goggles are an OK reward but the real treasure was never hearing about this mission again.

The mission would be so much easier if you could just CQC dudes. The default sneaking kill animation is just a choke out anyway.

You know, like in goddamn Splinter Cell.

Morter
Jul 1, 2006

:ninja:
Gift for the grind, criminal mind shifty

Swift with the 9 through a 59FIFTY

Fart City posted:

The mission would be so much easier if you could just CQC dudes. The default sneaking kill animation is just a choke out anyway.

You know, like in goddamn Splinter Cell.

no you don't understand that's lethal

Sixto Lezcano
Jul 11, 2007



You shoulda heard the hoot-and-holler at my house when one of us pushed Knock Out on a guard and we failed the mission. It says knock out, not kill, dammit!

E: i hope they keep going wild with Ubisoft crossover missions in this. I want to be a Tactical Operator working with Rayman to uncover the Assassin plot to kill... I dunno, a knight from For Honor?

Sixto Lezcano fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jul 25, 2018

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Sixto Lezcano posted:

You shoulda heard the hoot-and-holler at my house when one of us pushed Knock Out on a guard and we failed the mission. It says knock out, not kill, dammit!

E: i hope they keep going wild with Ubisoft crossover missions in this. I want to be a Tactical Operator working with Rayman to uncover the Assassin plot to kill... I dunno, a knight from For Honor?

What part of the Clancy-verse hasn't been part of Wildlands at this point?

What I'm saying is, bring on The Division crossover.

EDIT: I know the LVOA-C (which I was surprised to discover is a real gun!) and costumes are there, but maybe stopping a biohazard threat or something?

Beeb
Jun 29, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 14 days!

Dapper_Swindler posted:

so where is Twitch and rainbow six mission?

Caimanes, you should get a phone call when you're walking around within the region border.

Sure wish the AI pathing would loving work on the rescue mission. Wouldn't be so bad if there was a checkpoint when you find the person you're looking for.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
I can confirm about the parts thing. I've lost the compensator v2 and the 50 round assault rifle mag.

What the gently caress.

edit:

Ubisoft forums dude posted:

So as many people have posted by this point we've seen many previously unlocked weapon mods get relocked by "SO2"---and in such a way as to apparently be unattainable---in characters with advanced progression who "missed the opportunity" to pick up the accessory crates in game because they were previously unlocked by default.

To the best of my knowledge the following is a list of what we previously had by default that has now been relocked---except for foregrips, I can't determine that because I bought the store pack with all grips, lasers, and range finders so I didn't have to collect 4 different lasers every single game for SMGs, LMGs, assault rifles, and sniper rifles (or 2 different range finders for the two rifle classes).

Note regarding that particular pack's items: No lasers or range finders were ever unlocked by default, just some grips---I think the basic vertical grip and the angled, but I'm not sure.

Another note: Barrels and optics seem unaffected.

So here it is, best as I can determine.

Magazines:
30 round 5.56 P mags (P416, ACR, CZ805, Ruger R5);
30 round 9x19 SMG mags (MP5, MPX, VSN, EVO, PSG);
20 round 7.62x51 mags (Mk 14 and G28 but not SCAR);
25 round .45 ACP mags (KRISS Vector);
10 round .338 Lapua mags (SRS, DSR1, AWM, MSR)
30 round 6x35 mags (KAC PDW "SR635");
30 round 4.6 mm mags (MP7);
8 round 12 gauge tube (SPAS12).
10 round 12 gauge mag (Saiga 12K "SASG12");
200 round 7.62x51 belt box (Mk 48)
50 round 5.56 GI mag (M4, TAR21, SA80, FAMAS).
25 round 9x19 pistol mag (M9).

Stocks:
SPAS12 extended stock.

Muzzles:
All assault rifle compensators;
All SMG compensators.
V2 compensators for LMGs.

Kinda of an astonishing amount of stuff to be suddenly locked out of.

I think that's everything, but if you're missing anything else please feel free to speak up.

For the record, in the unlikely event that it matters, I play on PC.


Also, this new Rainbow 6 mission is frustrating as poo poo.

The toughest challenge is "Extreme difficulty, no HUD, shotguns only" and half the time the hardest thing about the mission is not knowing if the game has hung because the scripts don't trigger correctly. The worst part is having to spend 10 minutes playing a zero combat escort mission before every loving attempt.

God drat.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Jul 26, 2018

Guillermus
Dec 28, 2009



It always bugged me that you needed to find the unlock for 30 round mag on ARs that use that by default. Like who the hell would use a 20 round ACR or (P?)416. They should all be 30 by default and then 45-50 for the extended version. Also, 20 round mp5? you kidding me? I'd understand if it was the mp5k and sperging over the stockless version for conceal with 20 rounds.

And now they relock stuff, I hope it's just a bug and they fix it because I'd be pissed if I loaded my sabe from last year and half my poo poo was locked again.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

I suspect that it was intentional

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

It's not intentional because people lost stuff from regions they can't re-explore. If it was the latter it would just be minority annoying.

Hexenritter
May 20, 2001


drat it, and here I was wanting to get Caveira's gloves for the autospot and her custom cqc but gently caress losing most of my unlocks.

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.
Ok guys, would somebody please tell me what I'm doing wrong with the Rainbow 6 mission? Is it bugged or am I retarded?

I'm only on the first set of challenges so far. I'm doing it over and over again, step by step, using only shotguns and CQC. Nothing else. The game is quick to tell me when I lose the challenge if I blow up a few dudes using the drone or whatever, but nothing else. The challenge still isn't triggering after the firefight at that base. Any ideas? Am I supposed to deploy to Caimanes Echo, then trigger the mission or something? Because if I do that, the game usually tells me to leave the area first. This is extremely frustrating as I'm following the loving challenge to the letter every time I complete the mission and the game is just... not acknowledging it.

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Jul 28, 2018

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

have they fixed the whole "we took the poo poo you spent hours unlocking and also made it impossible to reacquire" bug yet

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

Statutory Ape posted:

have they fixed the whole "we took the poo poo you spent hours unlocking and also made it impossible to reacquire" bug yet

Nope.

And apparently I'm not the only one who can't do the Rainbow 6 challenge due to the mission being bugged to hell and back either. There's a ton of people online complaining about the same thing.


Zero public response from Ubisoft at this point btw.

Worf
Sep 12, 2017

If only Seth would love me like I love him!

GreatGreen posted:

Nope.

And apparently I'm not the only one who can't do the Rainbow 6 challenge due to the mission being bugged to hell and back either. There's a ton of people online complaining about the same thing.


Zero public response from Ubisoft at this point btw.

has ubisoft not even commented on the disappearing gun attachments thing? i would assume thats a huge part of the game for a lot of people lol..

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Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
it's also so random

tricked out MDR, all variations for MK14? yup no problem
you want a bigger mag for the SPAS so you can do this challenge with less hassle? nope lol

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