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Rorahusky posted:Daw, The Lion King is palling around with Bedivere. Bet Gawain was pissed~
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OnimaruXLR posted:Counterpoint: Umu is a million times better than "a hero of justice" Hmm? I actually don't know this one, care to elaborate?
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Wasn't it translated as 'Superhero' actually? Or am I misremembering? I feel like 'Hero of Justice' came later. (And yeah I would probably translate it as something different regardless. Savior? Just hero? Something like that.)
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Sodium Chloride posted:That isn't a problem at all. Okay, let me put it this way, Halloween event for the last two weeks of March, Christmas Rerun for the last week of March/first of April, the next Christmas event first two weeks of April, and also EoR part 4 coming out somewhere in the middle of all that. That is the pacing that some people legitimately want.
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Korea had both halloweens going at the same time.
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Ashsaber posted:Okay, let me put it this way, Halloween event for the last two weeks of March, Christmas Rerun for the last week of March/first of April, the next Christmas event first two weeks of April, and also EoR part 4 coming out somewhere in the middle of all that. Sounds like a rush! And it's never gonna happen anyway.
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Transient People posted:Wasn't it translated as 'Superhero' actually? Or am I misremembering? I feel like 'Hero of Justice' came later. Yeah Mirror Moon translated "Seigi no Mikata" as Superhero. Which, to be fair, is basically what a lot of Japanese media calls Superheroes.
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What's wrong with "superhero"? Shirou wanted powers to save people. Sounds like a superhero to me except it's not a Glorious Nippon phrase?
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ChronoReverse posted:What's wrong with "superhero"? Shirou wanted powers to save people. Sounds like a superhero to me except it's not a Glorious Nippon phrase? You're getting it reversed, someone was criticizing the extremely literal TL "hero of justice", which happens to not be in the VN TL
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Both "superhero" and "hero of justice" sound goofy as hell, regardless of which is closer to the original meaning, and I'd prefer just "hero" instead.
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I think the problem is that 'Superhero' makes american audience think of tights and Incredible Powers. Fate, at least, has always meant it to refer to a very particular moral philosophy.
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Holy gently caress. Mild lostbelt spoilers I guess? Maybe? But still this is a sickass little animation
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Crasical posted:I think the problem is that 'Superhero' makes american audience think of tights Marvel movies have thoroughly rid that from my mind these days ChronoReverse fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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I figure that Fate will always stick to the Gilgamesh definition of a hero, which is....surprisingly hosed up if you’re not familiar
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Part of the idea of the term is also to get across to the audience that Shirou's ideals are cartoonishly unrealistic, so the fact that "superhero" sounds goofy isn't entirely a negative in that context.
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ChronoReverse posted:Marvel movies have thoroughly rid that from my mind these days I mean more 'Superhero' brings to mind Amazing Powers first and foremost, rather than a moral framework.
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Sophism posted:Both "superhero" and "hero of justice" sound goofy as hell, regardless of which is closer to the original meaning, and I'd prefer just "hero" instead. I mean it sounding a little goofy fits the narrative. Thuryl posted:Part of the idea of the term is also to get across to the audience that Shirou's ideals are cartoonishly unrealistic, so the fact that "superhero" sounds goofy isn't entirely a negative in that context. How dare you beat me at this.
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Kitfox88 posted:Holy gently caress. Mild lostbelt spoilers I guess? Maybe? But still this is a sickass little animation EDIT:  Mash, Amakusa, Semiramis, and Ozy. You can actually see Semiramis' Gardens of Babylon in the background as well as Ozy's pyramid being thrown like a loving missile. The amount of detail in this animation is awesome. Sweet. Spoiler tags added just in case. RanKizama fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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Crasical posted:I think the problem is that 'Superhero' makes american audience think of tights and Incredible Powers. The only cultural difference is that “Seigi no Mikata” makes Japanese audiences think of transforming masked riders and monsters in rubber suits. Superhero was actually the better translation.
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I like "Hero of Justice" because, while that is a super literal and odd sounding translation, it's also perfect because it sounds over the top just like the type of media where the phrase is most often used.
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Kitfox88 posted:Holy gently caress. Mild lostbelt spoilers I guess? Maybe? But still this is a sickass little animation God I wish this was the state of things. This is cool, the reality is kind of lame, as it should be I guess.
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RanKizama posted:loving-A Zerkalot with the missile barrage! Also, who is the APC tank thing supposed to be? Is that the new DaVinci-mobile for the player and Mash? Pretty sure I see her shield deploy right as they charge in. This is veering towards spoiler territory but to answer while trying to keep it vague the tank thing is Shadow Border, a sort of mobile base and rover built largely by Da Vinci. Her rider version in arcade seems to be playing off that with a smaller and more heavily armed version. Shadow Border plays a major role in part 2.
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Crasical posted:I think the problem is that 'Superhero' makes american audience think of tights and Incredible Powers. Considering the type of clothes his future-self wears, maybe he's thinking about the tights as well.
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We are all thinking about archers tights
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Vengarr posted:The only cultural difference is that “Seigi no Mikata” makes Japanese audiences think of transforming masked riders and monsters in rubber suits. Superhero was actually the better translation. By now the cultural connotations are diluted enough that it doesn't really matter, but it was a fairly big deal.
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If Nasu's said that I can't really argue, but that just makes me recall the producer who said they always tried to avoid the j-word.
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Kiritsugu’s servant form is also wearing uh... batman superhero tight?
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The problem with hero/superhero is you run the risk of getting crossed up with the concept of heroes as exemplified by Heroic Spirits (see; Gil) which is more like the narrative concept of the word than the moral one I think when Shirou and Kiritsugu (and uh, I guess Siegfried?) say seigi no mikata, given how Kerry arguably sees it as "I don't want to be like my Dad" and Shirou sees it as "I want to be like my Dad" something like "A good guy" might have the right mixture of childishness and moral righteousness, along with also holding the seed of "poo poo ain't that simple" as exemplified by how both of them (potentially) end up
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Emiya's a Hero because he's got a cool coat.
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Kitfox88 posted:Emiya's a Hero because he's got a cool coat. Maybe they are more Van Hellsing than superheroes...
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Where's my Heroic Spirit Ciel already, assholes. 
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Kitfox88 posted:Where's my Heroic Spirit Ciel already, assholes. In the rerun banner for the Tsukihime event. 
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I really appreciate whomever it was that suggest I level Spartacus for, at the very least, farming purposes. The big guy's working out really well in that regard.
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Spartacus is justice. Only an oppressor would hide their eyes from this truth.
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It's a bit vague because Shirou's conception of it wasn't really about justice or righteousness - it was about saving people, just rescuing them from danger. After all, the experience that gave him that ambition was what seemed to be a natural disaster. Not an evil villain oppressing the people, not criminals exploiting the people - just a seemingly random fire. If he hadn't gotten involved in all the magus poo poo, he probably would have ended up wanting to become a paramedic or firefighter. Ultimately, Shirou didn't want to fight bad guys - he just wanted to rescue people in trouble. More of a first-responder kind of "hero" rather than a fighter for justice. It just doesn't really get a chance to shine in the Fate setting where everything is always ultimately the fault of a human or some other intelligent being. The mismatch is magnified for Heroic Spirit Emiya, since he never gets summoned to reinforce a breaking dam or shore up a building that's about to collapse or whatever.
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Yeah dude because that would be the most boring afterlife ever.
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Gologle posted:Yeah dude because that would be the most boring afterlife ever. "..."
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To anyone that you uses my maxed out Robin, should I replace his CE with something else other than a Kaleidoscope? Maybe a Black Grail? Edit: I thought the free CE was just Sakura cosplaying as Da Vinci Tired Moritz fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 27, 2018 |
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Tired Moritz posted:To anyone that you uses my maxed out Robin, should I replace his CE with something else other than a Kaleidoscope? Maybe a Black Grail? Halloween Princess is a good choice.
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Yeah I'm not really feeling the Andromalius grind, can the DW bots hurry up and give us a boost? While I still need tons of Lanugos, I don't care enough about them to grind it out, especially when most of the time I get dust (which is nice, don't get me wrong) or Lanterns (which I don't really need anymore)
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