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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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chunkles posted:oh my loving god teams are still selling picks for cash, seriously? maybe a future 2nd
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Jun 23, 2017 04:46
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R.D. Mangles posted:even goff? Goff knows what's up. Bernstein is already out defending the Bulls tonight. Same with Kaplan. The media narrative is "the Bulls picked a lane and should be applauded" as if that's not something a GM should always be doing. This sums it up. https://twitter.com/BullsBlogger/status/878095419862941697
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Jun 23, 2017 04:49
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Niwrad posted:Goff knows what's up. Bernstein is already out defending the Bulls tonight. Same with Kaplan. The media narrative is "the Bulls picked a lane and should be applauded" as if that's not something a GM should always be doing. Bernstein is p much a mouthpiece for Paxson.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:50
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Bulls look at teams like the Celtics and Sixers and think how much money they could make off those future 2nd round picks.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:50
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Phil Jackson is a better GM than GarForman
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Jun 23, 2017 04:50
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Dexo posted:Bernstein is p much a mouthpiece for Paxson.  https://twitter.com/dan_bernstein/status/878039633778532352 https://twitter.com/dan_bernstein/status/878048508892327939
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Jun 23, 2017 04:51
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Niwrad posted:
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So loving happy for Sin. 
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Jun 23, 2017 04:52
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Life comes at you fast.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:52
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Me 4 hours ago, talking about ChicagoLockback posted:They had a busy night. Wind down by selling a 2nd round pick. Ignoring they traded him to my local team, I don't mind Chicago trading Butler. They were in a terrible position to rebuild around a 27 year old. I don't think they should be crucified for that decision. They should be for what they got back. I cannot believe they couldn't work something out with Boston or find a 3rd partner with Cleveland or something. LaVine is a better piece than I think a lot of people are realizing, and the Lauri seems like, uhh, a pick alright. But yeah, that was 60 cents for a dollar.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:54
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Also wish I would have seen that Bernstein tweet. That totally would have been my text seriously quote:"#Bulls moving Butler is not as much about the specific return as it is the decision to do it." 
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Jun 23, 2017 04:54
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Why would a billionaire even care about $3.5 million dollars.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:54
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Reinsdorf is actively trying to become the Mike Brown of the NBA
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Jun 23, 2017 04:54
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Hmm let's see what nba.com has to say about this new PFquote:If Lydon becomes an everyday contributor on an NBA team, he’ll have his mother to thank. Susan Lydon helped her son develop proper shot mechanics from his earliest days playing the game. And even as he grew to 6-foot-9,
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Jun 23, 2017 04:55
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Rabid Snake posted:Why would a billionaire even care about $3.5 million dollars. Gotta pay the third pitcher's signing bonus for the lovely rear end white sox. Who have a loving better GM and Organization than the Bulls. Kenny Williams has his flaws but at least he isn't so passive and mealymouthed as Paxson is. And Rick Hahn eats Gar Foreman's Breakfast lunch and dinner.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:55
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Rabid Snake posted:Why would a billionaire even care about $3.5 million dollars. His baeball team needs money
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Jun 23, 2017 04:56
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gently caress anyone who ever said a goddamn word about jerry krause
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Jun 23, 2017 04:56
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 I will donate $25 to a Chicago charity of Dexo et al's choice if Sam Smith does not write a Jimmy Butler hit piece in the next week.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:57
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kingcobweb posted:Hmm let's see what nba.com has to say about this new PF I will not say "gently caress you" for calling Tyler Lydon a nerd, he is a major dork, but I had fun watching his college games, it was like high school, everyone constantly cheered for him, and he hit some great shots and had some really nice moves.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:57
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/878099664989499392 https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/878099697348603905 Talking points yo.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:58
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Look, I am almost sympathetic to the argument that the Bulls "needed" to hit the reset button. But when you accept that conclusion, you have to look at how they got to this point. 1) Jimmy Butler is 27 years old, is a top-15 player in the league and has only gotten better over the past few years 2) He has two years left on his contract, which is a good value, and wanted to come back Has a player EVER been traded in that context? If you can't build a good team with a guy like that in your pocket already, you are not qualified to run an NBA team. Things only got this dire because of the incompetence of the front office, and you can't let them get out of it by saying "ah, nothing we can really do now, gotta start all over again." If a new GM came in and determined the cupboard was too bare to build around Butler, I'd accept that. If GarPax are doing that, why are we assuming anything other than that they're too lazy to do the work to build a real team unless it falls in their laps?
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Jun 23, 2017 04:58
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Also the bulls are gonna have to pay Hoiberg to go away after this year anyway. Jesus Christ gently caress this team.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:59
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xbilkis posted:Look, I am almost sympathetic to the argument that the Bulls "needed" to hit the reset button. But when you accept that conclusion, you have to look at how they got to this point. That's basically describing Cousins. lol
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Jun 23, 2017 04:59
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https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/878100173343215616 SO MUCH HATE.
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Jun 23, 2017 04:59
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Jun 23, 2017 05:00
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Certainty is loving signing one of the worst PG's in the LEague Last year. Certainty is bringing in someone who is literally currently rehabbing a ACL Seriously? That's your loving certainty.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:01
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Take my LaMarcus... please https://twitter.com/LegionHoops/status/878022199608782848
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Jun 23, 2017 05:01
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Lockback posted:Ignoring they traded him to my local team, I don't mind Chicago trading Butler. They were in a terrible position to rebuild around a 27 year old. I don't think they should be crucified for that decision. Honestly, I'm not that upset with them trading Butler and getting what they can. Like you said, he's 27 and this team is so far away from competing it's not funny. Worst place to be is mediocre. And I almost could have talked myself into the trade with the Wolves if they didn't give up the 16th pick too. And selling the 38th pick (which has value) is pathetic. I'd have been fine if they moved it for a future pick. I like Lavine but my gripe with him is he'll be a RFA next offseason. So if he comes back from knee surgery and plays well, the Bulls are going to have to pony up a lot of money to him. It's not unfathomable that he could command a max contract. And I guess I'm also mad that they aren't turning Rondo's NG deal into an asset. Plenty of teams looking to dump salaries. Why didn't they get in on that Russell deal? I'm sure the Lakers would rather have cap space and the 16th pick over what the Nets gave up. They'll do a rebuild but they won't do it like Philly or Boston trying to acquire assets. They'll half-rear end it because they are lazy.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:01
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Kibner posted:That's basically describing Cousins. lol Cousins at least had Character Concerns, and he was traded with a year and a half on his contract At least Vivek had the passion to be obsessed with Buddy Hield. Paxson saw Kris Dunn play in the NCAA tournament and thought "yeah OK I guess that guy is gonna be good, lock it down"
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Jun 23, 2017 05:01
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Jun 23, 2017 05:01
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https://twitter.com/McGrawDHBulls/status/878100591599210496 I loving hate Gar Foreman and John Paxson. https://twitter.com/highkin/status/878100816153821184 And Jerry Reinsdorf.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:02
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xbilkis posted:Look, I am almost sympathetic to the argument that the Bulls "needed" to hit the reset button. But when you accept that conclusion, you have to look at how they got to this point. classic Ernie Grunfeld move. Sign a bunch of bad contracts and then claim that you were getting value for them when you got them off your books/moved to rebuild. It completely distracts from the part where the only reason you are in such a poo poo situation is because of your own poor decision making. It's actually old school GMing
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Jun 23, 2017 05:02
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how is paxson allowed to roam the streets of chicago in safety
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Jun 23, 2017 05:03
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GarPax are the type of dudes who don't realize their cars lose value when they drive them off the lot
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Jun 23, 2017 05:03
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https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/878101015911817216 And we as veterans of so many successful teams and player development should totally be over this rebuild. https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/878101116826914817 Well I guess that's correct....
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Jun 23, 2017 05:04
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Kris dunn is 23 years old
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Jun 23, 2017 05:04
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https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/878101315095842816 https://twitter.com/BullsBlogger/status/878101534537523201 https://twitter.com/NickFriedell/status/878101384976932865 You have like a week left, you traded your best player, how the gently caress do you not know what you are doing with him. https://twitter.com/CodyWesterlund/status/878101888767582208 Why would you do this. your 7th pick should be doing this better than Mirotic did, outside of March Mirotic anyway.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:06
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It's just so frustrating to see a guy like Morey, for all the warts you might wanna ascribe to him, work his rear end off to turn a ~treadmill team~ into one with a bonafide star and many complimentary role players. And here are the Bulls, at the dawn of their rebuild, throwing a first-mid rounder into a trade where they give up by far the best player, and then selling their second pick. There is no initiative, no sense of urgency to root out good assets or look for a competitive advantage. The Bulls are gonna be fine with the return on this trade for a few years, make their picks and just hope it all works out.
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Jun 23, 2017 05:06
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john paxson and gar forman make more in a year than any of us will see in a lifetime
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https://twitter.com/jon_greenberg/status/878101958074281984 kljsdfklsdjfa;'klj302[q942
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