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Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

The CIA as a supplement to Broderbund educational software is a function I can get behind.

EDIT: the CIA hosts a .pdf of Killing Hope on their website. Huh.

thats cool. i think i learned that for my minor but i am not sure. you can find lots of weird poo poo on the archives if you look hard enough.

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Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

FizFashizzle posted:



The real question is did they use two cameras for a shot of Mark eating plain toast, or did they do two takes.


It's better with sound:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_lzEhyryY

Dr. Arbitrary fucked around with this message at 23:48 on May 3, 2021

Grooglon
Nov 3, 2010

You did the right thing by calling us.

Judakel posted:

Why would changing the individuals in positions of power change an outcome that is borne out of the systemic needs of capitalism? In particular, a capitalist system with the US on top.

I'm just spinning here, but: in enterprise it's been proven that having a diverse workforce creates a more inclusive product. Add a left-handed person from Egypt to your team, to give an overly simple example, and they might ask why your widget only works for right-handed people, or why it doesn't support right-to-left languages, or why the AI can't register darker skin tones. So I think the idea is that if you expand the new blood in the CIA to not just be white boys from Ohio, they will also perhaps ask why, say, the constant violence and interference in Latin America.

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


zoux posted:

Here’s another reason right wing policy people didn’t give a gently caress about covid
https://twitter.com/conorsen/status/1389331680712962058?s=21
Smallest year-to-year gain in more than a decade
right at the beginning of the pandemic, the phrase "boomer remover" was tossed around. I really liked that time.

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

James Garfield posted:

If you accept everything in your post as fact, I don't think you can ignore the possibility that the CIA is bad because it's full of upper class white men from ivy league schools, and recruiting more diverse staff would make it less inclined to just training death squads everywhere.

You actually can ignore that possibility because it's absurd

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster
The Library of Congress is the largest collection of pornography and obscene content in the world and you can go look at it in person (but, not online).

quote:

Libraries will often have a restricted collection—a locked case, a unit of shelving behind the circulation desk, or a special room—that requires readers to obtain permission from a librarian to view the books within. Very often the restricted materials contain explicit adult content or valuable illustrations. The Library of Congress holds one of the largest collections in the world of this kind, composed mostly of erotica and items considered to be pornographic or obscene.

Here's some of the movies and porno books you can check out:

quote:

Debbie Does Dallas
PORN QUEENS OF THE 70'S
Deep Throat
The Opening of Misty Beethoven
Blue Movie
Last Tango in Paris
The Devil in Miss Jones
Boys in the Sand
Behind the Green Door
Alice in Wonderland: An X-Rated Musical Comedy
Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure
Fanny Hill
Le Coucher de la Marie

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Do they have that Star Trek TNG porn parody

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Grooglon posted:

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.
otoh, black cops are significantly worse than white cops in the "beating the gently caress out of people" category, mostly because they feel they have to be extra violent to fit in and prove they aren't gonna rat on Johnny Hotdog-neck for busting heads on patrol.

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!

Grooglon posted:

I'm just spinning here, but: in enterprise it's been proven that having a diverse workforce creates a more inclusive product. Add a left-handed person from Egypt to your team, to give an overly simple example, and they might ask why your widget only works for right-handed people, or why it doesn't support right-to-left languages, or why the AI can't register darker skin tones. So I think the idea is that if you expand the new blood in the CIA to not just be white boys from Ohio, they will also perhaps ask why, say, the constant violence and interference in Latin America.

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.

The CIA's product is imperialism. Inclusive imperialism isn't possible.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The Library of Congress is the largest collection of pornography and obscene content in the world and you can go look at it in person (but, not online).


Here's some of the movies and porno books you can check out:

lol how the gently caress did the alice and wonderland porno get saved? that feels random.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Grooglon posted:

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.

Because then it causes two things. One it causes any critique of the system that brutalises people to be framed as "being against diversity". Two is that making a system more efficient at its role does not mean that the system is improved.

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


Grooglon posted:

I'm just spinning here, but: in enterprise it's been proven that having a diverse workforce creates a more inclusive product. Add a left-handed person from Egypt to your team, to give an overly simple example, and they might ask why your widget only works for right-handed people, or why it doesn't support right-to-left languages, or why the AI can't register darker skin tones. So I think the idea is that if you expand the new blood in the CIA to not just be white boys from Ohio, they will also perhaps ask why, say, the constant violence and interference in Latin America.

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.

There is every reason to believe a more diverse work force will make the CIA better at its job lets take a look at your example. The purpose of an enterprise is to make money. What's the purpose of the CIA?

So yeah a more effective CIA is definitely not something to be celebrated.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Grooglon posted:

I'm just spinning here, but: in enterprise it's been proven that having a diverse workforce creates a more inclusive product. Add a left-handed person from Egypt to your team, to give an overly simple example, and they might ask why your widget only works for right-handed people, or why it doesn't support right-to-left languages, or why the AI can't register darker skin tones. So I think the idea is that if you expand the new blood in the CIA to not just be white boys from Ohio, they will also perhaps ask why, say, the constant violence and interference in Latin America.

A diverse workforce of CIA Agents is not exactly a kumbaya moment that we should celebrate, but I don't see how it could make things any worse and probably slightly better.

The CIA isn't a business trying to build a product. It's a government agency designed to perform clandestine operations to enforce American hegemony. While a corporation can benefit from diversity of thought any diversity in the CIA is going to be entirely superficial because they will still select for people who want to train death squads.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

It is apparently part of a free library of everything found in Bin Laden's cave when he was killed. It looks like they did not include his porn folder.

https://www.cia.gov/library/abbottabad-compound/index.html
Oh poo poo, I remember that. Didn't it have his FF7 save too?

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

What purpose does the US have in mind for the information that the CIA collects? What does the United States do with that information, would you say?

Most of that information is used for military, diplomatic, and commercial purposes. It's stuff like, "Country X is expanding its navy and seeks to expand its influence in the Sea of A", "Party B will likely win the elections in Country Y.", "Country Z's demand for aluminum is increasing and we expect it to increase bauxite imports.", "Minority population C is growing dissatisfied with its treatment by country XY, and unless XY changes its policies, we expect unrest."

The US uses this information to help bdetermine things like military movements, diplomatic initiatives how to improve relationships with countries it wants to ally with or to counter countries it thinks is a threat, enter into commercial treaties , and do all the other fun international stuff that countries like to do.

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Epicurius posted:

Most of that information is used for military, diplomatic, and commercial purposes. It's stuff like, "Country X is expanding its navy and seeks to expand its influence in the Sea of A", "Party B will likely win the elections in Country Y.", "Country Z's demand for aluminum is increasing and we expect it to increase bauxite imports.", "Minority population C is growing dissatisfied with its treatment by country XY, and unless XY changes its policies, we expect unrest."

The US uses this information to help bdetermine things like military movements, diplomatic initiatives how to improve relationships with countries it wants to ally with or to counter countries it thinks is a threat, enter into commercial treaties , and do all the other fun international stuff that countries like to do.

Allies like death squads

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-afghanistan-rights-report-idUSKBN1XA0DU

Judakel
Jul 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
A more inclusively designed product is a great way to sell to more people. The CIA recruits from many different backgrounds to be able to more effectively operate in more regions. It hasn't decreased the brutality of their tactics, because those tactics are brutality effective. I am not sure what inclusive imperialism would even look like. They're certainly not going to respect your decision if you choose to not do what the US wants you to do.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

FlamingLiberal posted:

Do they have that Star Trek TNG porn parody

They might now. A Library of Congress employee died about a year ago and donated the world's largest private collection of erotica to the library.

quote:

Ralph Whittington worked at the Library of Congress for 36 years, rising from an entry-level clerk to become a curator in the main reading room of the library’s majestic building across from the U.S. Capitol.

He supervised the library’s collection of telephone books — “I was in charge of every phone book in the freaking world,” he said in 2002 — and also used his expertise as an archivist in his private life. Mr. Whittington had more than 5,000 early recordings of rhythm-and-blues and doo-wop music, but he was better known for amassing one of the world’s largest collections of pornography.

For years, he stored his trove — which included thousands of items, from 19th-century “bawdy house coins” to magazines, videotapes, photographs, dolls and devices — at his Clinton, Md., home, which he shared with his mother.

For Mr. Whittington, his collection was neither a hobby nor a shameful indulgence stored at the back of a closet. It was a serious academic undertaking; his interest was curatorial, not prurient.

Pornography is a multibillion-dollar industry and has been part of human history for millennia, but serious study of the subject has been haphazard at best. Mr. Whittington sought to fill that gap by keeping a systematic record of the artifacts that define the myriad desires of the human libido.

“I really enjoy this stuff,” he told the Washington City Paper in 1997. “I’m not like some guy who says, ‘I only read Playboy for the articles.’ I mean, I really do take a hands-on approach.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...4a93_story.html

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

Judakel posted:

A more inclusively designed product is a great way to sell to more people. The CIA recruits from many different backgrounds to be able to more effectively operate in more regions. It hasn't decreased the brutality of their tactics, because those tactics are brutality effective. I am not sure what inclusive imperialism would even look like. They're certainly not going to respect your decision if you choose to not do what the US wants you to do.

Diverse imperialism would look like what we can assume they're building. Diverse in appearance while uniform in thought. Race, gender, ect are loose correlations for life experiences which is where diversity actually comes from. They will build an organization that looks different but still shares similar backgrounds, educations, and beliefs.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
the LoC also archives notable internet cultural sites.









your poo poo posts are archived

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They might now. A Library of Congress employee died about a year ago and donated the world's largest private collection of erotica to the library.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...4a93_story.html

if i dont have kids or whatever. i am tempted to donate a bunch of my stuff to either the Smithsonian or the libary of congress. probably books and maybe some physical games and weird poo poo. idk.

PhazonLink posted:

the LoC also archives notable internet cultural sites.









your poo poo posts are archived

then scholars decades from now can read the wise words of Goons.

Presto
Nov 22, 2002

Keep calm and Harry on.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

then scholars decades from now can read the wise words of Goons.

"After analyzing the data we have come to one inescapable conclusion: the Internet does, in fact, make you stupid."

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Shrecknet posted:

otoh, black cops are significantly worse than white cops in the "beating the gently caress out of people" category, mostly because they feel they have to be extra violent to fit in and prove they aren't gonna rat on Johnny Hotdog-neck for busting heads on patrol.

Do you have a reference for this? It sounds a lot like a right wing media claim, and the couple sources I could find in a few minutes of looking directly contradict it:

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/371/6530/696

https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/...black-officers/

Chieves
Sep 20, 2010

The Library of Congress is incomplete without Super Hornio Bros.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Chieves posted:

The Library of Congress is incomplete without Super Hornio Bros swap.avi.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

FlamingLiberal posted:

Do they have that Star Trek TNG porn parody

A Fisting Full of Datas

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


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Facebook's Independent Review Panel has an announcement to make about "Former President Trump's Facebook account" on Wednesday.

quote:

Facebook’s Oversight Board, an independent and international panel that was created and funded by the social network, plans to announce on Wednesday whether former President Donald J. Trump will be able to return to the platform that has been a critical megaphone for him and his tens of millions of followers.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/03/business/stock-market-today#facebook-trump-ban

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Facebook's Independent Review Panel has an announcement to make about "Former President Trump's Facebook account" on Wednesday.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/03/business/stock-market-today#facebook-trump-ban

"Independent" means Republican doesn't?

Can't wait for Faceboomer to get even worse

uPen
Jan 25, 2010

Zu Rodina!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

They might now. A Library of Congress employee died about a year ago and donated the world's largest private collection of erotica to the library.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/loca...4a93_story.html

This dude rules.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

You can buy menthol pods, menthol wraps, or roll your own still. Cigarette companies just can't sell them retail or market them.

or you could just eat any number of breath mints and mint candies, it’s literally all flavored with menthol

like you don’t actually have to put it in your lungs

Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


James Garfield posted:

Do you have a reference for this? It sounds a lot like a right wing media claim
lol Fox News does not think there is a problem with any cops, white or black, beating or killing anyone.

Here's a quick survey with a lot of sources showing "diversity" on the police force does gently caress-all to stop cops from blasting at anyone who looks at them funny

https://psmag.com/social-justice/black-cops-are-just-as-likely-as-whites-to-kill-black-suspects

quote:

"we find that nonwhite officers kill both black and Latino suspects at significantly higher rates than white officers,"

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Facebook's Independent Review Panel has an announcement to make about "Former President Trump's Facebook account" on Wednesday.


https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/03/business/stock-market-today#facebook-trump-ban

The reasons to ban him are the exact same as when they did, so I hope they don't re-instate it. Facebook is clearly the worst, though, so

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

uPen posted:

This dude rules.

He does.

quote:

On his business card, Mr. Whittington listed his occupation as “erotic archivist.” When discussing pornography, he did not apologize, stammer or blush. He documented his items with the same rigor that he used at the Library of Congress.

Everything was catalogued and cross-referenced. Boxes were carefully labeled with the name of a porn star or a thumbnail description of the infinite variety of carnal proclivities depicted in print or on film. Mr. Whittington noted 86 separate categories.

“The key is the diversity of the collection,” he told The Washington Post in 2002. “To be blunt, most people buy for their own gratification. But I would spend money on stuff I didn’t even like. I like high heels and big legs, but I collected everything."

quote:

Before three 16-foot trucks hauled away almost 10,000 items in 848 boxes, his house was packed from floor to ceiling. Videotapes shared space in the pantry next to cereal boxes, and sex tapes were stacked in his mother’s closet.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Grondoth posted:

The reasons to ban him are the exact same as when they did, so I hope they don't re-instate it. Facebook is clearly the worst, though, so
If they're making a big deal out of this announcement, I fully expect them to reinstate him

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
lol at the bean accountants at zuck thinking the money/power calculus says they should unban Donnie.

I hope they dont, but all paths lead to some dumb drama.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


FlamingLiberal posted:

If they're making a big deal out of this announcement, I fully expect them to reinstate him

Well it's the Washington Post making a big deal of it

DeeplyConcerned
Apr 29, 2008

I can fit 3 whole bud light cans now, ask me how!

Ladies and gentlemen, DJ Chuck Grassley!!!

Big like goggle *whitcha* big like goggle

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!


PhazonLink posted:

lol at the bean accountants at zuck thinking the money/power calculus says they should unban Donnie.

I hope they dont, but all paths lead to some dumb drama.

Anecdotal (because I can't find the article I read about this a few months ago), but IIRC, Facebook has been hemorrhaging users under the age of 40 for at least a year now. I cannot imagine re-instating Donnie would help turn that tide.

I could also see them making an announcement that there will be an announcement as them preparing themselves for the days of conservative whining and/or possible chud violence which is sadly a very real thing I'm sure they have security consultants telling them to consider.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

Shrecknet posted:

lol Fox News does not think there is a problem with any cops, white or black, beating or killing anyone.

Here's a quick survey with a lot of sources showing "diversity" on the police force does gently caress-all to stop cops from blasting at anyone who looks at them funny

https://psmag.com/social-justice/black-cops-are-just-as-likely-as-whites-to-kill-black-suspects

If you read the (open access) journal article that that "survey" is discussing, or if you read the sentence immediately after the sentence you quoted, you would note that that study attributes it to the neighborhoods to which nonwhite police officers are assigned, and not to "they feel they have to be extra violent to fit in and prove they aren't gonna rat on Johnny Hotdog-neck for busting heads on patrol."

The two studies I linked both control for the neighborhoods to which police officers are assigned, and find that white officers are much more likely to use force against nonwhite civilians.

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Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

FlamingLiberal posted:

If they're making a big deal out of this announcement, I fully expect them to reinstate him

I donno if it's so much Facebook making a big deal out of their announcement as much as people making a big deal out of the announcement. Twitter's kept their ban even after they did some sort of review, so I can see Trump's ban just being the way it is. But, Facebook is the worst so I don't know.

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