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BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

It took me probably 6 months of my toddler sleeping through the night before I stopped having the random wake up in a panic thinking I heard crying.

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King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

The kid in the daycare who was always the first sign of an illness coming left for a few months for whatever reason and came back last week. Yesterday, we get a message from daycare about some cough going around. When I dropped my son off this morning, that kid was the only other one there and he of course had a runny nose.

Thinking those few months were spent developing a powerful virus.

King Hong Kong fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Jan 17, 2024

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

I wouldn’t trade WFH for anything, but no school, no nap, no outdoor playtime days like yesterday make me wish for a commute longer than ‘open the office door’ to transition from work mode to dad mode.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

orange sky posted:

Same!

High 5, future dad! I'm so scared, especially because it's a boy and I don't want to raise an rear end in a top hat tate fan

Also a future boy dad. I think the Tate fans come from feeling unlovable and responding with outward aggression. I'm betting that loving my kid as unjudgementally as I can (and some coaching) will let him see those dudes as the lonely, hateful pricks they are.

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa
If you're actively worried about your kid turning out like Andrew Tate, chances are your kid won't turn out like Andrew Tate.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

CarForumPoster posted:

Also a future boy dad. I think the Tate fans come from feeling unlovable and responding with outward aggression. I'm betting that loving my kid as unjudgementally as I can (and some coaching) will let him see those dudes as the lonely, hateful pricks they are.

My fear is that my kid is going to be as gullible as me and he's going to get in with the wrong crowd. I guess the one thing I can do is teach him more street smarts than I had as a kid.

space uncle
Sep 17, 2006

"I don’t care if Biden beats Trump. I’m not offloading responsibility. If enough people feel similar to me, such as the large population of Muslim people in Dearborn, Michigan. Then he won’t"


Renegret posted:

My fear is that my kid is going to be as gullible as me and he's going to get in with the wrong crowd. I guess the one thing I can do is teach him more street smarts than I had as a kid.

https://youtu.be/cdgfFMxgLfI?si=--dxomtcXNs_uKOu

meanolmrcloud
Apr 5, 2004

rock out with your stock out

King Hong Kong posted:

The kid in the daycare who was always the first sign of an illness coming left for a few months for whatever reason and came back last week. Yesterday, we get a message from daycare about some cough going around. When I dropped my son off this morning, that kid was the only other one there and he of course had a runny nose.

Thinking those few months were spent developing a powerful virus.

This reminds me of my wife and i’s (pre children) honeymoon in Nicaragua, where we met an extremely crunchy couple from the west coast that was wrapping up their month in south/central America with their 6 year old. They recounted, among other adventures, how he was a champ kayaking down the amazon river. At no point in any of our interactions did he look like he was having a good time. Maybe that’s where your kids classmate was!

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
I guess I'm also afraid of bullying.

There's a zoomer my mom babysat. Sweetest girl I've ever met. She also spent her life being bullied and is now an extremely hosed up adult from it.

On her last day of middle school, another student went up to her and said she liked her watch and wanted to see it. When kiddo stuck her arm out to show off her watch, the bully grabbed her forearm, jammed her fingernail into her skin, and pulled it down deep enough to require stitches. The school administration of course had the stereotypical "you're going to ruin this child's life over a mistake??" response when mom showed up wanting to press charges. Such a hosed up thing to say when the victim is getting loaded into an ambulance. This was just one event in a lifetime of problems so bad she ended up dropping out of high school just to escape it all. It breaks my heart.

I was bullied, my wife was bullied, my brother had it bad enough to affect him as an adult as well. I don't want that life for my kids. So my wife has already laid down the parenting law that, if a bully starts poo poo with you, we're going to have your back when you finish it. I don't support violence so I'm having a hard time accepting it, but I don't have any better ideas. I just don't trust the school system to protect my kids. Thankfully it hasn't come into play yet but kindergarten is already next year and we live in a not so great district.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

lmao

Kinda reminded me of a good story my wife told me.

One day she was outside the house in the front lawn playing by herself when a white windowless van pulls up. The guy inside says, hey my dog just gave birth and I have a bunch of puppies in my van, you wanna come over here and see some cute puppies?

My wife, with her STREET SMARTS, flips the gently caress out and runs inside screaming like she had never screamed before in her life. Her dad comes out to confront the man, and immediately recognizes him as the neighbor a few houses down.

Turns out he was telling the truth, he had a van full of puppies and was so excited he just wanted to share in his excitement. For some reason it hasn't occurred to him that, like, you can't do that

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

BaseballPCHiker posted:

It took me probably 6 months of my toddler sleeping through the night before I stopped having the random wake up in a panic thinking I heard crying.

I still do this. Even (especially) when she's spending the night at Grandma's in the next city over

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

If you're actively worried about your kid turning out like Andrew Tate, chances are your kid won't turn out like Andrew Tate.

ok, but what if my kid turns out like andrew tate?

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

My boy has had croup for a couple nights now. He's pretty fine during the daytime but at night the stridor really comes out. It's loud enough to set off the baby monitor activity alert. It's pretty :ohdear: to hear his weird breathing.

At least I recovered from the covid pretty well, now he's just got to bounce back.

adnam
Aug 28, 2006

Christmas Whale fully subsidized by ThatsMyBoye

illcendiary posted:

Welcome friend. Your life is going to change forever very soon. It’s going to be awesome and scary and infuriating and wonderful, consider investing in a Snoo

if you do this please watch the videos before hand
i fcuked up and didn't realize how to prep the baby for the snoo and well, it was a nice clotheshamper for awhile.

Chillmatic
Jul 25, 2003

always seeking to survive and flourish

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

If you're actively worried about your kid turning out like Andrew Tate, chances are your kid won't turn out like Andrew Tate.

Worrying about something isn't the same thing as actually doing something about it, and considering that there are numerous forces actively trying to pull young men and boys into the alt-right/manbaby-rage pipeline, proactive prevention is probably a smart idea.

EVG
Dec 17, 2005

If I Saw It, Here's How It Happened.

Eeyo posted:

ok, but what if my kid turns out like andrew tate?

Throw out the kid and start over.

Benagain
Oct 10, 2007

Can you see that I am serious?
Fun Shoe
One of my friends was saying his nephew's a nice 12 year old and he just found out he watches andrew tate all the time because that's what his friends watch and talk about at school and he doesn't want to be excluded

I got no ideas for how you handle that poo poo other than just constantly setting a counter example

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa

Chillmatic posted:

Worrying about something isn't the same thing as actually doing something about it, and considering that there are numerous forces actively trying to pull young men and boys into the alt-right/manbaby-rage pipeline, proactive prevention is probably a smart idea.

The point is that if you are worried about it then the chances are that you are a conscientious parent who will work hard to raise a child who is not like that. No, worrying about something is not the same as doing something about it, but it totally follows that if you are an involved parent worried about a certain potential outcome you will parent accordingly, thus significantly (though not guaranteed, of course) reducing the chances of said outcome.

Rufio
Feb 6, 2003

I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
But remember that kids also naturally rebel so don't try too hard or they'll definitely Tate it up. We gotta just embrace our little sportos, motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, waistoids, dweebies, and dickheads.

Mistaken Frisbee
Jul 19, 2007
I always worry about the Andrew Tate thing too, because I'm sure a lot of parents just kind of lose connection with their preteens and teenagers and the internet/peers can be very influential. My kid is a young toddler though, so it'll probably be a different popular misogynist by then. We're two moms, so there's already a lot of worry about his potential male role models. Mostly right now he is really into vehicles/trucks and just spends time with his grandfather, who is a standard masculine boomer dad but not really problematic in a way I'd worry about.

On public schools - it's a minimum of five years away, but my wife and I have been in a disagreement on whether or not we should send our son to a local charter school. We're both public school kids, but we're a same-sex couple and Texas in the past couple of years has become very hostile to LGBTQ people (particularly in schools) and hostile to the public school system in general. All the queer parents in the Facebook groups rave about a specific charter school in town here that is very progressive and has a lot of queer parents, so she is interested in sending him there.

But one, sending my kid to a charter school feels like a shot against the public schools (though we have no idea which school district we'll live in by then). Two, more importantly to me, this charter school has the second highest conscientious vaccine exemption rate in the entire county - 23.4% in 2022 vs. most charter and public schools in town being under 5%. Pre-pandemic, it was closer to 35% though, so maybe the culture there is changing? Again, not a current concern for years, but my wife keeps coming back to it. She thinks the risk of something actually going around is low, but I would worry about younger kids we may have by then who aren't finished with their shots.

cailleask
May 6, 2007





There’s an unfortunately high overlap between liberal / hippie / non-vaccinating parenting circles. I haven’t lived in Texas in 30 years, but I could see how changing attitudes in the state could have driven those things to a very high concentration at this one school.

Good thing is you can choose to wait a while. Maybe you won’t live in Texas! Maybe you’ll be in a different district, as you said. It’s important to feel out those convos and your relative viewpoints about it, but… I wouldn’t put a line in the sand now when there’s so much time and other factors that could make the whole thing moot.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Charter schools aren't anti public schools, they're still funded with public money. Charter schools are anti union and (among other things) teachers can be fired for a much wider range of reasons. Sometimes for performance reasons. That said charter schools often have better standardized results.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Slaan posted:

Congrats y'all

Also, sleep now. Never stop sleeping for you shall never sleep again

Don't trust the anti-hype: some* babies sleep really well, and will let you get a good night's sleep after a relatively short time of not doing same.

* I have met several! You could be lucky!

Also, as a recent boy-dad, I commiserate with everyone worried about raising an rear end in a top hat boy. He's barely two months old so I don't have much advice to share. My plan is to role model behaviours that I want him to pick up on, but other than that I feel like I'll be approaching the deep end of the pool as he nears school age.

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Jan 17, 2024

nesbit37
Dec 12, 2003
Emperor of Rome
(500 BC - 500 AD)

Hadlock posted:

Charter schools aren't anti public schools, they're still funded with public money. Charter schools are anti union and (among other things) teachers can be fired for a much wider range of reasons. Sometimes for performance reasons. That said charter schools often have better standardized results.

Charter schools are absolutely anti public school. They never should have happened.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...chool-district/

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Yeah it varies by state. In California charter schools get slightly less ($16,100) per student than public schools ($16,700) or 4%. If the school isn't converted to charter then yeah the district picks up the maintenance and staffing costs of running an underutilized school. Obviously it's a very charged topic.

In my area (CA) one of the local public high schools converted to charter and lease the facility from the school district so the district isn't picking up expenses from lost students. In theory at least. I haven't looked into it much beyond that. Test scores and graduation rates are up more than 10% though.

nachos
Jun 27, 2004

Wario Chalmers! WAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
My plan is to relentlessly make fun of Andrew Tate when my son is 5 years old. I’ll report back results in 2036

OneSizeFitsAll
Sep 13, 2010

Du bist mein Sofa

OneSizeFitsAll posted:

The point is that if you are worried about it then the chances are that you are a conscientious parent who will work hard to raise a child who is not like that. No, worrying about something is not the same as doing something about it, but it totally follows that if you are an involved parent worried about a certain potential outcome you will parent accordingly, thus significantly (though not guaranteed, of course) reducing the chances of said outcome.

I should clarify in more precise terms, that I'm basically saying you're naturally more inherently more likely to be proactive, preventative etc if you're concerned in the first place. As in was posting to be reassuring, rather than blasé. I'm certainly very actively conscious as a father how my attitudes and behaviour shape both my son and daughter's perceptions about relationships and healthy treatment of one's partner, and am constantly endeavouring through various means to instill thoughtful and conscientious attitudes in them, as likewise of course does my wife.


Mistaken Frisbee posted:

I always worry about the Andrew Tate thing too, because I'm sure a lot of parents just kind of lose connection with their preteens and teenagers and the internet/peers can be very influential. My kid is a young toddler though, so it'll probably be a different popular misogynist by then. We're two moms, so there's already a lot of worry about his potential male role models. Mostly right now he is really into vehicles/trucks and just spends time with his grandfather, who is a standard masculine boomer dad but not really problematic in a way I'd worry about.

Do you have any close male friends or relatives who could take on a godfatherly (I don't mean this in a religious sense) or avuncular type role in his life as he grows? Also, positive male role models are not unimportant, but I reckon having two loving mums is probably also conducive towards a healthy respect for women!

My daughter just turned 12 and has been getting more and more... teenagery for a good while, so I have lot of thoughts and feelings on the teenage thing, but not all of it relates to this and I might save it for another day.

Lobsterpillar
Feb 4, 2014

nachos posted:

My plan is to relentlessly make fun of Andrew Tate when my son is 5 years old. I’ll report back results in 2036

Every time the name comes up, teach your kid to say "what's Taters, precious?" And then prance away singing "boil em, mash em, stick em in a stew"*

*Maybe not actual good advice

killer crane
Dec 30, 2006

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2019

Send your kid to the best place you can, where they have the best opportunity for them. It'll take she research, and knowing your kid's academic needs. A typical smart kid still usually do well in most settings.

I've had friends pull their kids out of private school, and place them in public because the competitive culture of the private school made her kid flounder.

I've had friends put their kids in private school because of actual danger their children were in at the public school they went to.

My oldest is gifted, and we've considered putting her in private school, but she also has ADHD, and the private school will not accommodate her special needs.

RCarr
Dec 24, 2007

adnam posted:

if you do this please watch the videos before hand
i fcuked up and didn't realize how to prep the baby for the snoo and well, it was a nice clotheshamper for awhile.

We used the SNOO for 6 months and I never saw a video or “prepped the baby”… what do you mean?

You put him in the SNOO brand swaddle and slide the two clips on.

Did I miss something?

Brawnfire
Jul 13, 2004

🎧Listen to Cylindricule!🎵
https://linktr.ee/Cylindricule

Must have skipped the anesthetic shot. Naptime's longer than you think, dad. Longer than you think...

Blinkz0rz
May 27, 2001

MY CONTEMPT FOR MY OWN EMPLOYEES IS ONLY MATCHED BY MY LOVE FOR TOM BRADY'S SWEATY MAGA BALLS

Hadlock posted:

Test scores and graduation rates are up more than 10% though.

Wonder why. I'm sure it's not because suddenly low performing kids were kicked out or simply not accepted.

Engineer Lenk
Aug 28, 2003

Mnogo losho e!

killer crane posted:

My oldest is gifted, and we've considered putting her in private school, but she also has ADHD, and the private school will not accommodate her special needs.

The usual advice for kids with IEP or 504 needs is to stay with public education, because most private schools will not accommodate.

However, if your district underfunds and overloads the special education department, there are specialized private schools out there.

My kid went from a (theoretical) 8:1:1 student:para:teacher ratio in math/English and mainstreamed with ‘accommodations‘ for other classes to 8:0:2 full-time and 1:1 with the reading specialist 3-4 days/week at their school now. Disciplinary referrals/ISS went from about every other week in public school to maybe three notes home in the last 2.5 years.

Teaching grade level adapted standards, which is required in public education in my area unless you are in a mod/severe class, meant my kid was retaining basically nothing. And some teachers had no idea how to adapt their work for a kid reading at a K/1 level (worst offender was 7th grade health sending home 10 short answer questions plus vocabulary matching).

Now my kid gets about an hour outside every day between recess and lunch, no homework, and they can read well enough to text, read road signs and bus schedules, and follow basic recipes.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Sometimes glorious American capitalism really brings the goods - getting a snoo where I live would cost something like 2k, I'm pretty well off but I can't spend that money. Oh well, I'll spend it on therapy later for sleep deficiency induced psychosis

Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

My kid apparently ingested a hair at some point. It came out the other end intact and that possibility has derailed all potty-related activities for 2 days now.

TheGreyGhost
Feb 14, 2012

“Go win the Heimlich Trophy!”
Pro: 4 month old is 19 pounds and growing like crazy

Con: 4 month old in weighted swaddle feels like doing strongman work before sleep

Pro: 4 month old has started inexplicably sleeping 8-6 every single night on a single dream feed

Con: 4 month old’s maps are averaging 30 minutes a piece and trending down.

How long does this sleep regression go? It was his first day at daycare today and he got a combined hour over 8 )974: in the building.

CarForumPoster
Jun 26, 2013

⚡POWER⚡

Mistaken Frisbee posted:

I always worry about the Andrew Tate thing too, because I'm sure a lot of parents just kind of lose connection with their preteens and teenagers and the internet/peers can be very influential. My kid is a young toddler though, so it'll probably be a different popular misogynist by then. We're two moms, so there's already a lot of worry about his potential male role models. Mostly right now he is really into vehicles/trucks and just spends time with his grandfather, who is a standard masculine boomer dad but not really problematic in a way I'd worry about.

On public schools - it's a minimum of five years away, but my wife and I have been in a disagreement on whether or not we should send our son to a local charter school. We're both public school kids, but we're a same-sex couple and Texas in the past couple of years has become very hostile to LGBTQ people (particularly in schools) and hostile to the public school system in general. All the queer parents in the Facebook groups rave about a specific charter school in town here that is very progressive and has a lot of queer parents, so she is interested in sending him there.

But one, sending my kid to a charter school feels like a shot against the public schools (though we have no idea which school district we'll live in by then). Two, more importantly to me, this charter school has the second highest conscientious vaccine exemption rate in the entire county - 23.4% in 2022 vs. most charter and public schools in town being under 5%. Pre-pandemic, it was closer to 35% though, so maybe the culture there is changing? Again, not a current concern for years, but my wife keeps coming back to it. She thinks the risk of something actually going around is low, but I would worry about younger kids we may have by then who aren't finished with their shots.

Does it matter if your normal immun functioning, vaxxed kid goes to a school with a measles outbreak? Serious question I’m bad at health science. If not, who cares?

chadbear
Jan 15, 2020

There still is about a 3 percent chance that the vaccine doesn’t confer immunity. Small but not negligible. Vaccines work best in a herd immunity setting.

My 8 month old is dealing with excessive gas that keeps him up at night. The doctor just recommended upping the Simeticone dose since supposedly you cannot take too much of the stuff. Here’s hoping that it helps, our nights have been dreadful lately.

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Blinkz0rz posted:

Wonder why. I'm sure it's not because suddenly low performing kids were kicked out or simply not accepted.

Charter schools taking public money have to take all applicants within their district, up to ~110% of capacity. They're not private schools they're just independent of the local school district. At least in California

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BaseballPCHiker
Jan 16, 2006

quote:

How long does this sleep regression go? It was his first day at daycare today and he got a combined hour over 8 )974: in the building.

In my experience each one lasts a few weeks and they keep happening off and on until they're about 2.

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