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C2C - 2.0
May 14, 2006

Dubs In The Key Of Life


Lipstick Apathy

lizardman posted:

Sadly, I'll always primarily remember this movie because of the most unexpected and random shot of a penis I've ever encountered in a major motion picture.

I, too, can't unsee it. Was a decent movie otherwise.

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SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.

Choco1980 posted:

I read Roger Corman's Autobio years ago, and while he seemed proud of a lot of the films he made over the decades, but I kinda get the impression that X is one of the top ones in his esteem. It really is a fantastic, thoughtful film hiding behind a cheesy sci-fi veneer. That ending too.
Yeah, it and Not of This Earth (1957) both own all the bones. Everyone seems to think of the Poe films when they think of Corman wearing his director's hat, but those two are the real next-level poo poo from him.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

anyone see Spring? new indie horror movie, on Amazon Prime, heard promising things.

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

anyone see Spring? new indie horror movie, on Amazon Prime, heard promising things.

It's really cool, but it's more of a romance film than anything so keep that in mind. I found it all very charming. It's by the same dudes who made Resolution which is on netflix and awesome. as well. Think low budget Cabin in the Woods except alot weirder.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Glamorama26 posted:

It's really cool, but it's more of a romance film than anything so keep that in mind. I found it all very charming. It's by the same dudes who made Resolution which is on netflix and awesome. as well. Think low budget Cabin in the Woods except alot weirder.

oh cool, i did not know it was by the Resolution guys.

Ape Agitator
Feb 19, 2004

Soylent Green is Monkeys
College Slice

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

I was a little taken aback when Glen asked Terry if he wanted to come over later and "mess around."

But yeah, the family photo is actually what prompted me to ask about what you guys might think is the underlying subtext to the film. I think Glen wants his family dead cause they won't let him shoot off his model spacepenises in the backyard anymore.

Yeah, I love the Gate because it feels like it has a lot of imagery that you can read into it.  That the parents leave at the start is why it's so good because there's no guidance so even good intentions are messed up.  Plus, I think it nails all of its goals as far as special effects and disturbing images.

So much sexual imagery left and right.  I think there's a strong interpretation of it being fear of sexual awakening and maybe even sexual confusion because the whole thing is loaded with negative sexual imagery.  The gate itself consumes his friend with a giant groping vagina, a gigantic penis thrusts itself out of a giant hole, the closet is the best place to go.  Public embarrassment plays out in the levitation party and he really doesn't like the sexually confident guy or the relationship obsessed girls.  He just wants to keep hold of his innocent days where he'd hang out with his sister.  Maybe longing for the days when the penis didn't mean anything other than for peeing.

The "you've been bad" and the destruction of everything he's known and loved seems like fears of rejection and punishment for being sexual so it's kind of fun to think of the "Dark Book" as a porno mag passed along by his best friend.  It awakens little semen demons, frequently tries to grope and grab his sister, and ultimately is defeated with the bible and a penis used as a symbol of "purity".

So, ultimately, don't touch yourself because the devil is in the palm of your hand and your parents will be disappointed.


But my reaction when I watched it growing up was kind of shock at how it has a kid who has lost his parents being adrift and alone through all of that.  It seemed like a big deal so showing him an image of his dead mom and transposing it with a dead dog was one of the cruelest images I had come across by then.  I think that's ultimately what the demon preys on is forcing Glen to face the concept of the death of his parents.

The other thing  that broke my little brain was the bed trying to grab Al.  Because a third arm comes out and that's just nightmare fuel in so many ways

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

Sir Kodiak posted:

I just finished watching this for the first time a few minutes ago and, beyond what an intense movie it is, yeah, it's absolutely that.

I found this from an interview with Tobe Hooper:


Really great experience. How are the sequels, prequels, remakes, all that poo poo?

TCM 2 is really interesting, because it's completely over the top. I see it as Tobe Hooper reacting to all the people that vilified what they thought happens in the first film by actively turning around and showing them what that kind of movie would actually look like. It's psychotic, and full on cartoonish, and super fun.

TCM 3 has the problem of being meddled with by studio heads too much. It's got some good ideas hiding inside it, and one of my all time favorite Leatherface moments, not to mention great acting from ken Foree and Viggo Mortisen, but at the end of the day it fails.

TCM 4 has a great cast allowed to go bonkers with the material, but it goes in really weird directions. It's fun until you think about it for more than a second. I love that they decided to push the trans aspect of Leatherface to its fullest conclusion with this one.

The Jessica Alba remake one was decent too, more of the same. Not a lot to champion about it over any of the others though. I never saw any made after that one, besides like the first 20 minutes of the prequel which was meh. The later modern day one looked like trash to me.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours
Jessica Biel, you mean.

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.
TCM 3 is an underrated favorite of mine. Viggo Mortensen is having an absolute blast and he ends up rolling around in the dirt with Ken Foree. It's good fun.

MNSNTZR
Oct 13, 2012
Can someone explain to me why A Field in England is classified as a horror film? Because :psyduck:

I was half-jokingly expecting some foreshadowing to Whitehead being the Alchemist from The Holy Mountain by the end, since the films have so much of the same feel.

WeedlordGoku69
Feb 12, 2015

by Cyrano4747

Choco1980 posted:

TCM 3 has the problem of being meddled with by studio heads too much. It's got some good ideas hiding inside it, and one of my all time favorite Leatherface moments, not to mention great acting from ken Foree and Viggo Mortisen, but at the end of the day it fails.

Is the Leatherface moment the speak-and-spell scene? That bit is fantastic.

MNSNTZR posted:

Can someone explain to me why A Field in England is classified as a horror film? Because :psyduck:

I was half-jokingly expecting some foreshadowing to Whitehead being the Alchemist from The Holy Mountain by the end, since the films have so much of the same feel.

It's violent, dark, and leaves you with the vague impression that you've been hit in the head with a sledgehammer, that's the main reasoning afaik

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming
Man, The Haunting has some incredible photography. It leans a little too hard on voiceover to try and catch some of Shirley Jackson's writing but I really liked it. Robert Wise had such a weird career.

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

Jessica Biel, you mean.

Yes, yes I do. Mea Culpa.


LORD OF BUTT posted:

Is the Leatherface moment the speak-and-spell scene? That bit is fantastic.

Yes, it's inspired.

Though my absolute favorite Leatherface moment was the part in 4 where he's doing his makeup to Marlene Dietrich's "Falling In Love Again". Divine.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


If anybody wants to watch the rough cut of my Christmas Horror Story re-edit, lemme know now, cuz otherwise im just gonna watch it by myself.

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

So I've started to get an interest in old horror host programs. If anybody knows of some good archived material, I'm all ears.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

im gaye posted:

So I've started to get an interest in old horror host programs. If anybody knows of some good archived material, I'm all ears.

Radio?

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015


Local television.

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.

Choco1980 posted:


Though my absolute favorite Leatherface moment was the part in 4 where he's doing his makeup to Marlene Dietrich's "Falling In Love Again". Divine.

This is an underrated moment, but hard for me to think of like 5 moments in the first that isn't more iconic for me. His briefly panicked search of his house ending with that amazing dead stare into the camera is so effective everytime I see it.

Glad to see someone who has love for the rest of the series outside of 1 and 2. It's an underrated little run. Not big on the reboots sadly.

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012

im gaye posted:

So I've started to get an interest in old horror host programs. If anybody knows of some good archived material, I'm all ears.

There's this full Svengoolie broadcast - broken up to parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_gbqd6nVY

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.
American Scary is a documentary over old horror hosts. Uneven, but still a fun enough watch. I wanna say it's on amazon or hulu

Hat Thoughts
Jul 27, 2012
Some fun Horror playlists on this channel, actually
https://www.youtube.com/user/rarehalloweenvideos/playlists

Dr.Caligari
May 5, 2005

"Here's a big, beautiful avatar for someone"

im gaye posted:

So I've started to get an interest in old horror host programs. If anybody knows of some good archived material, I'm all ears.

Head over to kreepykastle.com . They have newer horror hosts, but will also occasionally play the old stuff

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

morestuff posted:

Man, The Haunting has some incredible photography. It leans a little too hard on voiceover to try and catch some of Shirley Jackson's writing but I really liked it. Robert Wise had such a weird career.

Not many people could have directed The Desert Rats, The Haunting, The Sound of Music and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

Wise did a fair amount of horror, actually. His official debut was Curse of the Cat People, and he also did SF/horror in The Day The Earth Stood Still and The Andromeda Strain and a full on horror movie with Audrey Rose.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

Hat Thoughts posted:

There's this full Svengoolie broadcast - broken up to parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PS_gbqd6nVY

If you have ME-TV on your cable provider, Svengoolie is still on the air and still does his thing every Saturday. He's still got it after all these years.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

im gaye posted:

Local television.

Ah, you're kinda SOL on that. So much of that stuff was local TV and as such long gone.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines

Glamorama26 posted:

It's really cool, but it's more of a romance film than anything so keep that in mind. I found it all very charming. It's by the same dudes who made Resolution which is on netflix and awesome. as well. Think low budget Cabin in the Woods except alot weirder.

I liked both Spring and Cabin in the Woods, but I just watched Spring now and I really don't think that's a good comparison. I think a better description for it would be From Dusk til Before Sunrise.

The first 15 minutes or so seemed like it was going to be a slog but I liked the two of them halfway through the movie and was disappointed that we didn't get to see more of what happened after the credits started. Maybe they can make a sequel in 9 years :v

Glamorama26
Sep 14, 2011

All it comes down to is this: I feel like shit, but look great.
Oh I was comparing Cabin in the Woods to Resolution, not Spring. I worded all of that terribly, so I can understand the mix up.

X-Ray Pecs
May 11, 2008

New York
Ice Cream
TV
Travel
~Good Times~

Jedit posted:

Not many people could have directed The Desert Rats, The Haunting, The Sound of Music and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

Don't forget about Run Silent Run Deep or West Side Story! What a loving career.

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


Jedit posted:

Not many people could have directed The Desert Rats, The Haunting, The Sound of Music and Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

Wise did a fair amount of horror, actually. His official debut was Curse of the Cat People, and he also did SF/horror in The Day The Earth Stood Still and The Andromeda Strain and a full on horror movie with Audrey Rose.

Also The Body Snatcher, although Curse of the Cat People, while great, isn't much of a horror movie. It's a ghost story, but probably the least "horror" of the Val Lewton RKO pictures besides Mademoiselle Fifi, another Wise joint.

Argue
Sep 29, 2005

I represent the Philippines
Oh, also, can someone with the Spring blu-ray describe, or maybe even post, if that's kosher, the joke alternate ending they included?

Lil Mama Im Sorry
Oct 14, 2012

I'M BACK AND I'M SCARIN' WHITE FOLKS
Speaking of West Side Story, this is a sweet video essay on Michael Bay and where he got his style:

Michael Bay - What is Bayhem?: https://youtu.be/2THVvshvq0Q

Choco1980
Feb 22, 2013

I fell in love with a Video Nasty

ruddiger posted:

If you have ME-TV on your cable provider, Svengoolie is still on the air and still does his thing every Saturday. He's still got it after all these years.

Two years ago I was at a small horror con in Flint, MI, and Cleveland's Son of Ghoul did a Q & A, and he spent at least half the running time talking poo poo about Svengoolie, how he's a huge dick to everybody in the Horror Host Brotherhood (and apparently puts on quite a false front during the American Scary documentary, which I still haven't watched) and how his success has everything to do with the first Svengoolie and his channel's movie package (that is quite a bit better and more expensive than everyone else's in the biz) than it does any actual talent the man might have.

Full Moon has had both William Shatner and Elvira at different times horror host their films, and they now both have their segments appear on the Full Moon website, and Shout Factory streams some of their Elvira hosted films on theirs (for free in the latter's case)

lizardman
Jun 30, 2007

by R. Guyovich
Recently saw Let's Scare Jessica to Death as well as Alice, Sweet Alice and both were better than I was expecting. The latter especially - it's a movie that really could've only been made pre-Halloween, because otherwise it would have schewed much closer to the slasher formula. What we have may not always be super-scary but it's definitely interesting as hell. A masked, undeniably female killer (and it's not 'responding' to anything by doing this, it's just a natural part of the movie); there's a mystery but it doesn't rely too much on trying to be a whodunit; some scenes involving children and church that are surprising even today without feeling overly exploitative.

As for Let's Scare Jessica..., it's low-budget but in a way that's endearing, and has some surprisingly good performances and creepy imagery. In the end it doesn't quite feel substantial enough to be a classic, which is a shame because I feel like the potential was there.

C2C - 2.0 posted:

I, too, can't unsee it. Was a decent movie otherwise.

Haha, well let the record show I'm not so much of a prude to be against shots of dicks in R rated movies on principle (and it's not like it was some close up of the guy's junk), it's just 'sad' because it's just SO random and unexpected that I remember that before appreciating seeing some of the last on-screen moments of some legendary actors is all. Also has a cool role for Alice Krige, who went on to be the Borg Queen in Star Trek.

Choco1980 posted:

The Jessica Alba remake one was decent too, more of the same. Not a lot to champion about it over any of the others though. I never saw any made after that one, besides like the first 20 minutes of the prequel which was meh. The later modern day one looked like trash to me.

I gave the remake a pass because it's not bad at all and at the time it was actually refreshing for a horror movie to be this sincere and just genuinely trying to scare the bejesus out of you. At the same time, though, it really is a glossy inferior remake that helped kick that whole annoying trend in motion. So, eh.

Adlai Stevenson
Mar 4, 2010

Making me ashamed to feel the way that I do

Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:

Speaking of West Side Story, this is a sweet video essay on Michael Bay and where he got his style:

Michael Bay - What is Bayhem?: https://youtu.be/2THVvshvq0Q

This is the only Youtube channel I allow to send me update notifications.

morestuff
Aug 2, 2008

You can't stop what's coming

Adlai Stevenson posted:

This is the only Youtube channel I allow to send me update notifications.

It's the only thing I've bothered to support on Patreon. A buck a video is extremely fair.

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

morestuff posted:

It's the only thing I've bothered to support on Patreon. A buck a video is extremely fair.

I subscribe to this and The War Nerd Podcast.

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
Queen of Earth is up and Netflix and is good. It's pretty & pretty loving unpleasant slow burn of a film.

Cruel & Unusual was pretty fun too. Sort of like a feature length episode of a Night Gallery story. Dweeby, overbearing husband finds himself in purgatory after his wife dies, is forced to confront his culpability while looking for a way out. I didn't really spoil anything there; the film is pretty forthright about laying it all out in the first ten minutes or so.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Followup: Krampus still totally loving owns.

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

Goddamn, The Giant Claw is hilarious.

Thirsty Girl fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Dec 28, 2015

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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD
Sep 14, 2007

everything is yours

im gaye posted:

Goddamn, The Giant Claw is hilarious.

It's like some kind of flying battleship.

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