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KozmoNaut posted:Maybe we should start paying the actual prices for things. this is the true tech nightmare buried in all of this imho. there is no avoiding the tentacles unless you unenroll in life altogether
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The last time I checked, it was impossible to buy a non-smart wall-size TV, at least at Best Buy or Costco.
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Mar 27, 2021 17:51
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Nonsense posted:Roku is a prison. I like my roku but mainly because it's far better than the software on my TV or DVD player. Sigh.
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Mar 27, 2021 18:11
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I really, really appreciate my Roku's search-across-all-channels feature. Can't remember whether Midsomer Murders is currently on Britbox, Acorn, or Netflix? Roku search will tell me. It will also tell me when I search for a movie all the channels it is on, at what prices. Saves individual searches on Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu. (Yes, we have many special-interest channels.)
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Mar 27, 2021 18:39
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I hate pretty much all real world examples of smart technology. It's a loving TV/toaster/fridge/light bulb, it should have completely predictable behaviour unless broken and no computer janitoring should ever be necessary to operate it. It absolutely shouldn't have nag screens and EULAs to agree to when it could just be a dumb circuit that works the second it gets connected to power. If I ever buy a dedicated TV again instead of just watching stuff online, I will physically disconnect the wifi antenna and if the antenna is a trace on the PCB I will physically break the trace with a pocket knife.
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Mar 28, 2021 01:34
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Mar 28, 2021 02:22
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Are custom firmwares for smart TVs even a thing?
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Mar 28, 2021 02:46
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suck my woke dick posted:I hate pretty much all real world examples of smart technology. It's a loving TV/toaster/fridge/light bulb, it should have completely predictable behaviour unless broken and no computer janitoring should ever be necessary to operate it. It absolutely shouldn't have nag screens and EULAs to agree to when it could just be a dumb circuit that works the second it gets connected to power. The good smart bulbs, like Hue, default to behaving like regular led bulbs. You can even configure that behaviour so they act like a regular bulb, but at a particular brightness/colour every time. But you don't have to. It's pretty satisfying. The cheap ones (looking at you IKEA) take several seconds to turn on or respond to controls, which is frustrating as gently caress.
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Mar 28, 2021 07:11
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I really, really appreciate my Roku's search-across-all-channels feature. Can't remember whether Midsomer Murders is currently on Britbox, Acorn, or Netflix? Roku search will tell me. It will also tell me when I search for a movie all the channels it is on, at what prices. Saves individual searches on Netflix, Amazon, and Hulu. (Yes, we have many special-interest channels.) I'm pretty sure it misses services on some movies, I've been able to find things streaming free that Roku thought weren't there, but it's really inconsistent.
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Mar 28, 2021 07:14
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The only smart stuff I've found a use for are thermostats. I've set it to turn down the heating at night on a schedule, and I put it to "vacation mode" when we leave home for more than a day. I use the app to take it back to normal temp a couple of hours before we arrive home. Unfortunately the online part is shutting down soon, so I'll be left with local control only, though a janky Java-based Windows application. Perhaps I can find the spec for the protocol they use and control it by logging in to my VPN and running some scripts on a Raspberry Pi or Arduino or something. Perhaps get into embedded programming again.
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Mar 28, 2021 08:14
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I tried a smart thermostat, but it actually broke a part on my boiler - we have an old house with a 2-wire thermostat (so there's no dedicated power supply to the thermostat like you would get in a 3 or 5 wire setup). Instead of batteries, it tried to power itself by briefly cycling on the furnace to charge, which blew out a part on my boiler with the constant cycling.
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Mar 28, 2021 11:29
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enki42 posted:I tried a smart thermostat, but it actually broke a part on my boiler - we have an old house with a 2-wire thermostat (so there's no dedicated power supply to the thermostat like you would get in a 3 or 5 wire setup). Instead of batteries, it tried to power itself by briefly cycling on the furnace to charge, which blew out a part on my boiler with the constant cycling. that sucks. there are definitely options out there these days though if you care that much i find the smart thermostat to be way less useful personally than like app lights
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Mar 28, 2021 12:50
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I have a honeywell evohome setup which not only controls the furnace but also all individual radiators which makes it possible to set the temperature of individual rooms. It's really nice and comfortable tbh
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Mar 28, 2021 16:36
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suck my woke dick posted:If I ever buy a dedicated TV again instead of just watching stuff online, I will physically disconnect the wifi antenna and if the antenna is a trace on the PCB I will physically break the trace with a pocket knife.
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Mar 28, 2021 17:55
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Arsenic Lupin posted:On my smart TV, it was impossible to pair the remote unless the TV was connected to the Internet. No, I did not know this before buying. The frustrating thing with Vizio is that they almost got it right in the sense that the TVs are practically just a dumb TV with a built-in stock Chromecast. If they had kept it to that instead of slapping a bit of terrible bloat on top, that would have been actually a fairly compelling proposition.
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Mar 28, 2021 18:15
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Aramis posted:The frustrating thing with Vizio is that they almost got it right in the sense that the TVs are practically just a dumb TV with a built-in stock Chromecast. If they had kept it to that instead of slapping a bit of terrible bloat on top, that would have been actually a fairly compelling proposition. They really fuckin went for it, but it turns out a ton of people just don't want a pure-casting TV, they want a thing that shows them a menu when it turns on. As a Shield haver, I honestly don't blame them. Cast can be finnicky and I dont want to always have to gently caress with my phone to pick something to watch.
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Mar 28, 2021 18:20
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Arsenic Lupin posted:On my smart TV, it was impossible to pair the remote unless the TV was connected to the Internet. No, I did not know this before buying.
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Mar 28, 2021 18:47
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TACD posted:Which brand is this so I can be sure to avoid it? Vizio.
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Mar 28, 2021 19:39
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Pretty sure I'm going to be stuck watching the 32" dumb TV I bought in 2009 for the rest of my life.
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Mar 28, 2021 19:55
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Aramis posted:they had kept it to that instead of slapping a bit of terrible bloat on top, that would have been actually a fairly compelling proposition. This, but for every tech product. I don't like that I have a Pixel phone, but its the only way I can easily have a smartphone that doesn't overload the interface with a hundred "interactive" and "helpful" UI apps. If I'm wrong I'm also open to suggestions but not if they are Apple.
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Mar 28, 2021 20:05
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the yellow dart posted:This, but for every tech product. I don't like that I have a Pixel phone, but its the only way I can easily have a smartphone that doesn't overload the interface with a hundred "interactive" and "helpful" UI apps. If I'm wrong I'm also open to suggestions but not if they are Apple.
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Mar 28, 2021 20:38
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withak posted:Pretty sure I'm going to be stuck watching the 32" dumb TV I bought in 2009 for the rest of my life. I have a 32" dumb TV that I bought in 2009 when our prime minister gave everyone 1000 bucks cos of the financial crisis. I love it and I hope it never dies
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Mar 28, 2021 20:51
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the yellow dart posted:This, but for every tech product. I don't like that I have a Pixel phone, but its the only way I can easily have a smartphone that doesn't overload the interface with a hundred "interactive" and "helpful" UI apps. If I'm wrong I'm also open to suggestions but not if they are Apple. I would kill for a modern smart phone that allowed me to use a microSD card and a set of headphones with a 3.5mm jack. It's bullshit that they keep pushing these disposable bluetooth headsets with irreplaceable batteries.
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Mar 28, 2021 21:52
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Solkanar512 posted:I would kill for a modern smart phone that allowed me to use a microSD card and a set of headphones with a 3.5mm jack. It's bullshit that they keep pushing these disposable bluetooth headsets with irreplaceable batteries. I am having a great time with my moto g8, hth
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Mar 28, 2021 21:54
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the yellow dart posted:This, but for every tech product. I don't like that I have a Pixel phone, but its the only way I can easily have a smartphone that doesn't overload the interface with a hundred "interactive" and "helpful" UI apps. If I'm wrong I'm also open to suggestions but not if they are Apple. Solkanar512 posted:I would kill for a modern smart phone that allowed me to use a microSD card and a set of headphones with a 3.5mm jack. It's bullshit that they keep pushing these disposable bluetooth headsets with irreplaceable batteries. I know Nokia is not as widely available in the US, but they match this exactly. No bloat, long term updates guaranteed, and 3.5 mm jack.
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Mar 29, 2021 08:08
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Bensa posted:I know Nokia is not as widely available in the US, but they match this exactly. No bloat, long term updates guaranteed, and 3.5 mm jack. Didn't Nokia get loving obliterated first by internal sabotage then the Microsoft buyout and being made a vehicle for Windows Phones that no one wants?
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Mar 29, 2021 08:14
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Didn't Nokia get loving obliterated first by internal sabotage then the Microsoft buyout and being made a vehicle for Windows Phones that no one wants? Pretty much. During the Microsoft acquisition Nokia Networks was split off, which kept the non-phone parts of the company, and is one of two primary competitors to Huawei in the networking business. After the collapse of Nokia branded Windows Phones, ex-Nokia employees founded a new company (HMD) licensing the Nokia brand to design phones. Manufacturing is all done in China now, which would have happened regardless of Nokia collapsing. High end Nokias used to be made in Finland, and a lot of manufacturing was still done in Europe.
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Mar 29, 2021 08:34
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Didn't Nokia get loving obliterated first by internal sabotage then the Microsoft buyout and being made a vehicle for Windows Phones that no one wants? I still have a couple of Nokia Windows phones around here. What a hilarious time. I was working for a popular VoIP startup and Microsoft/Nokia was sending us test phone and paying us mid 6 figures to port our client to Windows Phone so they could get more things in the store. To be fair, for their time the hardware was really nice. It was just borderline unusable because of the software.
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Mar 29, 2021 13:49
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Didn't Nokia get loving obliterated first by internal sabotage The guy that ran Nokia into the dirt (Stephen Elop) before the buyout used to work for Microsoft before that too. Then after Nokia was a burnt out husk was rehired by MS. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Mar 29, 2021 |
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Mar 29, 2021 15:51
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Arsenic Lupin posted:The last time I checked, it was impossible to buy a non-smart wall-size TV, at least at Best Buy or Costco.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:10
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This Is the Zodiac posted:I bought a projector last year and have zero regrets; it's one of the best purchases I ever made. i agree, though even with good light control and a crazy expensive projector, you're not going to get the kind of contrast ratios you can with oled or microled.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:14
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mediaphage posted:i agree, though even with good light control and a crazy expensive projector, you're not going to get the kind of contrast ratios you can with oled or microled. The short-throw ones with those crazy light absorbing screens come drat close to being TV-bright, at least. Of course, the ones I've seen run Android TV so lol
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Mar 29, 2021 16:28
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TheScott2K posted:The short-throw ones with those crazy light absorbing screens come drat close to being TV-bright, at least. Of course, the ones I've seen run Android TV so lol yeah they're bright, but you'll never get the amazing black levels of a panel imo. they're kind of amazing though and often i don't care. also yeah, anroid. lol.
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Mar 29, 2021 16:38
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Mister Facetious posted:The guy that ran Nokia into the dirt (Stephen Elop) before the buyout used to work for Microsoft before that too. This is the guy who dunked on Android when it launched, saying that OEMs who use it are like children peeing on themselves to keep warm in the snow, right?
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Mar 29, 2021 17:56
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I mean, we're probably not too far away from consumer-level AR/VR and just watching everything on "virtual" screens. Apple is working on both AR glasses and a full VR headset; if they can get them to "stick" in the market the way products like the iPod and iPad have, we could definitely see manufacturers beginning to phase out physical displays.
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Looking forward to the worst cyber world.
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Volmarias posted:This is the guy who dunked on Android when it launched, saying that OEMs who use it are like children peeing on themselves to keep warm in the snow, right? I wouldn't know, but given the lack of OS & security updates/advertising on multi-hundred dollar phones/background app-killing fuckery that Android OEMs engage in to this day, I feel he has been vindicated on that one. 
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This Is the Zodiac posted:I mean, we're probably not too far away from consumer-level AR/VR and just watching everything on "virtual" screens. Apple is working on both AR glasses and a full VR headset; if they can get them to "stick" in the market the way products like the iPod and iPad have, we could definitely see manufacturers beginning to phase out physical displays. I don't know about other spouse-and-children-havers but I'm literally never going to put on a headset to Watch Shows
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Mar 29, 2021 18:24
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TheScott2K posted:I don't know about other spouse-and-children-havers but I'm literally never going to put on a headset to Watch Shows personally i already wear glasses so if it's anything pretty close to normal glasses i'm down i'd actually like it so i could read lying down while not holding up a device lol
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Motronic posted:To be fair, for their time the hardware was really nice. It was just borderline unusable because of the software. Even the software followed the classic Zune pattern: the end-stage core OS was legitimately pretty good, but by the time they finally got there, it was dead in the market. Their strategy of actively encouraging hello-world level app store schlock in an effort to boost the total number of apps on the platform didn't help, either. Or tying it to that super successful, well-loved Windows 8 branding...
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