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Jordan7hm posted:This was a good post, thanks. Food for thought at least.   
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RBC posted:hahaha i loving hate the 21st century At least it's better than the 19th century. ...so far.
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Feb 14, 2017 05:51
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That was really interesting and helpful LeschNyhan, thank you.
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Feb 14, 2017 06:58
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 The reason to post here is to talk to people who have different viewpoints and to see how your own stand up to scrutiny. I'm probably not going to be convinced on moral grounds of the value of Li being back in society, but I can certainly be convinced on practical grounds. jm20's post about how if this was a run of the mill hit and run it wouldn't even raise an eyebrow was also pretty on-pointlike many of you I'm also here to shitpost Somebody fucked around with this message at 22:15 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2017 16:01
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Slurpees and Murder: The Winnipeg Lifestyle http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/transit-driver-attack-university-manitoba-winnipeg-1.3981581
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Legit Businessman fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Sep 9, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2017 18:40
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Suplex Liberace posted:Slurpees and Murder: The Winnipeg Lifestyle Living at the U of M right now that is legitimately pretty disturbing. I never met the bus driver but condolences to the family 
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Feb 14, 2017 18:49
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I take a lot of buses so I might have seen this guy or even chatted with him. This has me pretty upset.
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Feb 14, 2017 18:51
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Its so tragic. Near the end of his shift. 58 - so he was getting close to retirement. Probably a chill route down to the U of M. Ugh - just senseless loss. Bus drivers deserve better - esp. in this loving city.
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Feb 14, 2017 18:54
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"An officer with the canine unit fell through the ice when he went back to investigate the scene. He was pulled to shore by other officers and wasn't injured." lol police
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Feb 14, 2017 18:57
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Baronjutter posted:"An officer with the canine unit fell through the ice when he went back to investigate the scene. He was pulled to shore by other officers and wasn't injured." gently caress off.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:03
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They don't know if the attack happened on the bus, but all buses need those protective glass barriers around the driver's seat. We have them here in Toronto and it makes the drivers less approachable (obviously) but gently caress getting spit on or stabbed.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:04
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"Approachable" isn't a characteristic that interests me in a bus driver when things like "Shows up on time" or "Slows down by some means other than stomping the brake through the floor like Fred Flintstone" are on the table.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:08
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Be careful about talking about public transit in any CanPol thread because there is a special snowflake who takes exception to the use of it and would rather make use of their safe space to get to work. I support the barriers.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:08
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OSI bean dip posted:Be careful about talking about public transit in any CanPol thread because there is a special snowflake who takes exception to the use of it and would rather make use of their safe space to get to work. Cool that you are an alt-right weirdo.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:09
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Vintersorg posted:Cool that you are an alt-right weirdo. he's making fun of the posters in the can-debt thread complaining about how awful having to smell other people or hear them talk is - and you need to chill out
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Feb 14, 2017 19:10
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Lobok posted:They don't know if the attack happened on the bus, but all buses need those protective glass barriers around the driver's seat. We have them here in Toronto and it makes the drivers less approachable (obviously) but gently caress getting spit on or stabbed. Yeah pretty much. Honestly I expect them to switch entirely to the kiosk/sealed off driver system like on the streetcars at some point because once the majority of folks are on Presto (lol) they can just have the one kiosk for the occasional person who needs to pay cash. No real reason to have the driver easily physically accessible. Speaking of Presto the last time I tried to reload my card at one of the subway station kiosks attempting to finalize payment caused it to crash to the Windows desktop  . How the gently caress did such a technically incompetent system pass the design phase?
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Feb 14, 2017 19:11
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Vintersorg posted:Cool that you are an alt-right weirdo. Those terms have been around since I was a kid and are not exclusive to the alt-right. Also he is mocking 2 people from the debt thread that hate public transit because it puts them into contact with poor people.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:12
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They made it mandatory for cab drivers to have barriers years ago in Winnipeg, probably about about time for bus drivers. The barriers cab drivers have are absolutely useless though.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:12
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*updates canpol.xlsx* The terms have been around but it's exlusively used by alt-right weirdos all over social media. Look up any comments section regarding Pewdiepie getting fired for being a jackass today - PC SNOWFLAKE SAFE SPACE CULTURE EWWW ITS COMEDY
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Feb 14, 2017 19:12
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Getting defensive about wet cops and already triggered by OSI? You're going to have a difficult time in the canpol thread
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Feb 14, 2017 19:12
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Vintersorg posted:*updates canpol.xlsx* The left would do much better if it started to use terms like "special little snowflakes" and "safe space" when referring to conservatives who are "triggered" by things they don't like.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:16
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OSI bean dip posted:The left would do much better if it started to use terms like "special little snowflakes" and "safe space" when referring to conservatives who are "triggered" by things they don't like. I use those terms and "virtue signalling" with conservatives and it triggers them hard.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:19
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Also due to also calling dogs "officers" it was a dog who fell through the ice and the other cops got it out.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:19
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OSI bean dip posted:The left would do much better if it started to use terms like "special little snowflakes" and "safe space" when referring to conservatives who are "triggered" by things they don't like. "Safe spaces" is a left construct. Using that phrase to mock conservatives is mocking the construct itself and leftists with it. And that's perfectly fine because safe spaces are stupid. But realize this, the alt-right is more alt than right, it's all lefties who are annoyed with fellow lefties. Because it's a lot easier for that far left guy to say "ah that guy making fun of safe spaces is alt-right, gently caress him" rather than deal with the painful reality that it's their supposed ally. Just the ikantski take obviously as there's no solid alt-right definition.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:23
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Vintersorg posted:Also due to also calling dogs "officers" it was a dog who fell through the ice and the other cops got it out. That somehow manages to be dumber than calling them furbabies.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:23
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Postess with the Mostest posted:"Safe spaces" is a left construct. Using that phrase to mock conservatives is mocking the construct itself and leftists with it. And that's perfectly fine because safe spaces are stupid. But realize this, the alt-right is more alt than right, it's all lefties who are annoyed with fellow lefties. Because it's a lot easier for that far left guy to say "ah that guy making fun of safe spaces is alt-right, gently caress him" rather than deal with the painful reality that it's their supposed ally. Just the ikantski take obviously as there's no solid alt-right definition. While I think that you're an enormous shithead I will say that the one redeeming factor you have is that while you're a contrarian amongst us all you do help break the echo chamber that comes with this place. I would be dishearten if you were to leave. However, I disagree with the notion that "safe spaces" are a left construct--it's only viewed that way because there are those on the left who feel the need to make it aware that they need to exist. Any website that has a self-contained echo chamber (be it a news comment section, Reddit, or a place like Free Republic) qualifies as a safe space. Anyone who goes and complains that they need to drive because they cannot handle being around people who smell or have mental illness are basically saying that they need a safe space. The idea that "safe spaces" are a leftist construct is highly disingenuous.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:28
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:How the gently caress did such a technically incompetent system pass the design phase? My dude, have you heard of Accenture?
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Feb 14, 2017 19:29
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That's what scares me most about the "alt-right" is that a lot of its ideology is quite attractive to anyone, even people who "hate" conservatives and don't see them selves as right wing. It's the sort of "leftist" that ONLY wants to talk about how BLM are crazy and the real racists, identity politics are stupid, trans need to shut up with their made up pronouns, first nations need to just get a job and pay for school like I did, why can't white people or men be proud of them selves anymore??
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Feb 14, 2017 19:29
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Hell is being stuck between the alt-right and the Tumblr left screaming at each other, forever. The world needs a safe space to hide from all of this.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:30
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Postess with the Mostest posted:"Safe spaces" is a left construct. Using that phrase to mock conservatives is mocking the construct itself and leftists with it. And that's perfectly fine because safe spaces are stupid. But realize this, the alt-right is more alt than right, it's all lefties who are annoyed with fellow lefties. Because it's a lot easier for that far left guy to say "ah that guy making fun of safe spaces is alt-right, gently caress him" rather than deal with the painful reality that it's their supposed ally. Just the ikantski take obviously as there's no solid alt-right definition. Yup. Terms like "safe space" and "virtue signalling" are insulting precisely because they identify actually tendencies within progressive culture. Though it should hardly need to be pointed out that conservative and alt-right political tendencies also have their sacred cows and their own tendency to posture and preen about their moral superiority. The contemporary left simply lacks an effective and simple language for identifying and mocking these traits, which makes it all the more galling when the alt-right is able to popularize those terms. OSI bean dip posted:
How so? In my experience they're absolutely a left-wing or at least a liberal / progressive construct. The right has it's own equivalents but the specific term "safe space" and the way it's used is, in my experience, absolutely an exclusive term of the left, at least when i'ts being used unironically.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:30
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Baronjutter posted:That's what scares me most about the "alt-right" is that a lot of its ideology is quite attractive to anyone, even people who "hate" conservatives and don't see them selves as right wing. It's the sort of "leftist" that ONLY wants to talk about how BLM are crazy and the real racists, identity politics are stupid, trans need to shut up with their made up pronouns, first nations need to just get a job and pay for school like I did, why can't white people or men be proud of them selves anymore?? It's easier to make up an enemy and divide and or unite everyone than it is to just try and get people to come to their side. Helsing posted:How so? In my experience they're absolutely a left-wing or at least a liberal / progressive construct. The right has it's own equivalents but the specific term "safe space" and the way it's used is, in my experience, absolutely an exclusive term of the left, at least when i'ts being used unironically. Just because it's being used as a term by the left doesn't mean that it cannot be used to label aspects of the right.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:30
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Wasn't the original idea of a "Safe Space" basically just an after-class group for LGBT students to hang out without being worried about being insulted for being LGBT?
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Feb 14, 2017 19:38
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DariusLikewise posted:Wasn't the original idea of a "Safe Space" basically just an after-class group for LGBT students to hang out without being worried about being insulted for being LGBT? To be fair there are safe spaces that are warranted such as for those who are trying flee persecution for their sexual orientation or gender identity. However, it has become an insult due to misuse.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:39
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I think a lot of people who claim to be "progressive" or "signal" that they are simply do so because in a lot of places it's a binary choice. You're either on the progressive side or you're on the conservative side, and both have a lot of pre-packaged identity issues. Maybe you loving hate homeless people and think trans folk are just mentally ill and using their chosen pronoun is enabling their delusion, but you also aren't religious, don't like "corporations", support liberalizing drug laws, think climate change is a serious issue, and hate or are embarrassed by most of the cultural things linked to the conservative political camp. So to be part of some sort of in-group you join the "progressive" camp. But what's this, a 3rd way? You don't have to be a family values jesus conservative or market worshipping libertarian, but get to complain endlessly about safe spaces and pronouns and how white men are the most oppressed people in Canada? I can feel superior to both the left AND right? I can pick and choose an inconsistent grab bag of ideologies based on my gut feeling at the moment and call it "common sense" ?? I can let loose all my grossest most reactionary beliefs and not be called out on them? Sign me up! I love this new 3rd way!
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Feb 14, 2017 19:41
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OSI bean dip posted:To be fair there are safe spaces that are warranted such as for those who are trying flee persecution for their sexual orientation or gender identity. However, it has become an insult due to misuse. Kind of like the words "socialist" and "liberal". 
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Feb 14, 2017 19:42
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I never heard the term safe space being used when GSAs and the like were becoming a thing, the first I ever heard the term was when it was being used to declare that all sorts of venues and events were essentially dissenting opinion free zones.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:43
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OSI bean dip posted:It's easier to make up an enemy and divide and or unite everyone than it is to just try and get people to come to their side. Speaking of attempts to make people come to our side... quote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/60s-scoop-ruling-aboriginal-1.3981771 You say failed to prevent, I say actively intended, tomayto, tomahtoh.
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OSI bean dip posted:To be fair there are safe spaces that are warranted such as for those who are trying flee persecution for their sexual orientation or gender identity. However, it has become an insult due to misuse. I get that, but in actuality a "Safe Space" is basically just a support group really, how it got morphed into this idea that free speech is being oppressed is truly loving ridiculous. I mean I wouldn't run into a Young Conservatives meeting at Campus and start reading The Communist Manifesto.
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